- 05 Sep 12, 16:41#318790
You can drive on the grass! 2 wheels on grass on the inside approach to a hairpin with half the field going round the hairpin in front of you, how well can they brake with 2 wheels on tarmac and 2 wheels on grass, or even on the white paint?
Hamilton went straight off the line and when Grosjean got close Hamilton started to move towards the edge of the track, with hindsight it's easy enough to say he could have slowed down earlier but there was a car right behind him and what kind of racing would we have if drivers didn't have the trust in each other and thought 'oh no he's coming across the track towards me I better slow down'.
Grosjean has crashed I believe 7 out of 12 times during the first lap this year. At some point it's no longer crashing, but recklessness, that's why the ban is being handed out.
Going from hardly any penalties or warnings to a straight-up ban is stupid though.There's a theory that Romain's motion was affected by what Maldo did. Meaning he wouldn't have swerved right like that had Maldo not did what he did. Just saying.
Romain moved over, but stopped moving over before touching Lewis. So there would not have been a problem. Lewis could have moved over. Not that it was his responsibility to do anythign about it. There was room. Just saying. But anyway for a second they were happily motoring along together. So I think the swerve is by this point just a thing of the past. Their wheels were interlocked though and eventually those wheels touched, causing the poorly practised aerobatics. The swerve in that sense didn't cause the contact. So in that sanse Romain isn't as bad as it seems. Not quite as at fault as it would appear, but there is no one else that could reasonably share any blame. So I do agree he should take the blame because he was in that position though.
Well, let's be fair here. Maldonado was long gone by the time the lights went out and Grosjean and the rest of the field started their race. He had a lot of space ahead of him to stay to the left. I think he moved right to not get caught hanging on the outside and losing places there.
There was also not enough space on the right of Grosjean to fit a car. Hamilton could not move over. He was already on the grass and skidding because of Grosjean's action. Whether he'd have crashed into Grosjean straight away or after skidding through the grass wouldn't have made much difference. I think they touched because Hamilton had no room anymore. Having room because the wheels interlock isn't having room, it just means you're lucky to not have hit yet, but it's inevitable you will. The crash was Grosjean's fault in my opinion, it's just a matter of whether it justified a ban.
Hamilton DID have room. You're wrong. Hammy had room on his right, a couple feet of tarmac plus the grass. You can drive on the grass. You aren't guaranteed to spin there. If you're supposed to be a world champion you can drive there without wrecking, otherwise get out of the sport. He chose to race rather than avoid contact. That's his right. I was not referring the the interlocked wheels when I said he had room. That's ridiculous.
You can drive on the grass! 2 wheels on grass on the inside approach to a hairpin with half the field going round the hairpin in front of you, how well can they brake with 2 wheels on tarmac and 2 wheels on grass, or even on the white paint?
Hamilton went straight off the line and when Grosjean got close Hamilton started to move towards the edge of the track, with hindsight it's easy enough to say he could have slowed down earlier but there was a car right behind him and what kind of racing would we have if drivers didn't have the trust in each other and thought 'oh no he's coming across the track towards me I better slow down'.
To use my phone in the car I deleted all my German contacts, it's now Hans free.
