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By darwin dali
#233967
They just gave up their voting (and veto?) rights on decisions that are exactly on the issues they complain about FOTA being biased about.
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By Jensonb
#233979
They just gave up their voting (and veto?) rights on decisions that are exactly on the issues they complain about FOTA being biased about.

Mm. It's all bluster. They just haven't got any money.
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By spankyham
#233995
IMO HRT pulling out of FOTA is proof positive of how silly it was letting them into F1 in the first place.

There has to be some sort of selection criteria - new teams need to prove they have the financial and human resources to succeed in F1. That doesn't mean they have to win a championship in their first year. What it means is they have to show they can succeed on the track and meet basic financial requirements ie they can pay to get real F1 drivers.

They should also have some history, competing at some motor racing level with success.

I've read some points raised here and in other places that F1 should help the bottom teams. Well, I think there might be some validity to that, IF, those teams had met the criteria above. But honestly, letting "mom and pop" teams into F1, no amount of help is going to get them into F1 shape.....

They shoot horses don't they?
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By darwin dali
#233997
IMO HRT pulling out of FOTA is proof positive of how silly it was letting them into F1 in the first place.

There has to be some sort of selection criteria - new teams need to prove they have the financial and human resources to succeed in F1. That doesn't mean they have to win a championship in their first year. What it means is they have to show they can succeed on the track and meet basic financial requirements ie they can pay to get real F1 drivers.

They should also have some history, competing at some motor racing level with success.

I've read some points raised here and in other places that F1 should help the bottom teams. Well, I think there might be some validity to that, IF, those teams had met the criteria above. But honestly, letting "mom and pop" teams into F1, no amount of help is going to get them into F1 shape.....

They shoot horses don't they?


A bit harsh :D
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By spankyham
#234003
They shoot horses don't they?


A bit harsh :D


Maybe, but then again I'm expecting HRT's launch date to coincide with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's bar mitzvah.
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By Robert12010
#234008
HRT are a useless, amatuer, pathetic team and to be honest i couldnt give a flammin duck if they are in formula1 or not, they are a total sham!!!! :banghead::hehe:
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By nish2280
#234024
They shoot horses don't they?


A bit harsh :D


Maybe, but then again I'm expecting HRT's launch date to coincide with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's bar mitzvah.

:rofl:
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By Jensonb
#234062
HRT to lead a break away series perhaps? :rofl:

Breaking News: HRT Breakaway Series hits a snag when it's discovered Lawnmower Racing has already been invented.
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By myownalias
#234073
There has to be some sort of selection criteria - new teams need to prove they have the financial and human resources to succeed in F1. That doesn't mean they have to win a championship in their first year. What it means is they have to show they can succeed on the track and meet basic financial requirements ie they can pay to get real F1 drivers.

This is what I have been saying in other threads; if a 13th team was not allowed to enter F1 because the potential teams were not financially viable, at the start of the season all teams should be able to show financial stability to bring two race cars to each and every race of the season with non-pay-drivers in the cars.

They should also have some history, competing at some motor racing level with success.

I could be wrong on this but didn't Campos Meta (who later morphed into HRT) have previous race pedigree in lower formula?

I've read some points raised here and in other places that F1 should help the bottom teams. Well, I think there might be some validity to that, IF, those teams had met the criteria above. But honestly, letting "mom and pop" teams into F1, no amount of help is going to get them into F1 shape.....

The issue is that when these teams joined the F1 circus; that was amidst promises of a budget cap of €40m and technological help from the bigger teams, neither of which happened; at least not in their first season, Lotus are now getting help from Red Bull and HRT are getting Williams gearboxes.
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By Jensonb
#234079
There has to be some sort of selection criteria - new teams need to prove they have the financial and human resources to succeed in F1. That doesn't mean they have to win a championship in their first year. What it means is they have to show they can succeed on the track and meet basic financial requirements ie they can pay to get real F1 drivers.

This is what I have been saying in other threads; if a 13th team was not allowed to enter F1 because the potential teams were not financially viable, at the start of the season all teams should be able to show financial stability to bring two race cars to each and every race of the season with non-pay-drivers in the cars.

They should also have some history, competing at some motor racing level with success.

I could be wrong on this but didn't Campos Meta (who later morphed into HRT) have previous race pedigree in lower formula?

You are correct.
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By Robert12010
#234080
well im amazed that williams want to help a bunch amatuers like HRT, and dont forget, that mclaren and mercedes help out force india with gearboxes and engines...
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By Jensonb
#234086
well im amazed that williams want to help a bunch amatuers like HRT, and dont forget, that mclaren and mercedes help out force india with gearboxes and engines...

I think WIlliams is hardly in any position to turn down money.
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By Robert12010
#234087
well im amazed that williams want to help a bunch amatuers like HRT, and dont forget, that mclaren and mercedes help out force india with gearboxes and engines...

I think WIlliams is hardly in any position to turn down money.


well that cant be getting loads otherwise they would have kept hulkenburg
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By Jensonb
#234095
well im amazed that williams want to help a bunch amatuers like HRT, and dont forget, that mclaren and mercedes help out force india with gearboxes and engines...

I think WIlliams is hardly in any position to turn down money.


well that cant be getting loads otherwise they would have kept hulkenburg

Hence why they're in no position to turn any down.

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