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[EwanM]

And last year we had some drama...

[Big Azza]

Magny-Cours is a hoot to drive round. One of the best drivers circuits imo. The problem with Magny-Cours is the aerodynamics of the cars rather than the track itself. Other series's have no problem overtaking into the hairpin

My problem was that I could never make it around Estoril (Turn 3), I would either go off, or have and accident because I'd have to break very heavily half way through the corner and there'd be a good pile-up. 8 times out of 10, I'd retire because I lost a wheel or my rear wing. I'd then aim at a Renault and try and take him out of the race.

You complained that Monaco was boring, yet here you are saying F1 needs tight and twisty tracks no matter how boring they may be.

Yes, we need to have Monaco. But I think that Monaco is over-rated. And I think that Catalunya is under-rated. Spa Francorchamps is clearly the BEST circuit.

Monaco should stay, but I just think it's too slow for a Formula one car. Other tracks like Catalunya are much better, they require high downforce AND driver skill. The Hungaroring is also one of these tracks.

Monaco is only good because it's pretty. The cars are doing nothing too great, except keep it out of the barriers.

Btw, I like street circuits (like the Gold Coast Indy) but I think Formula one is getting crazily obsessed over them. Now we have Monaco, Valencia, Singapore, Melbourne, Abu Dahbi, and now plans for a French Street circuit too?

I think that race circuits are still better. My desktop wallpaper is an aerial shot of Spa (I know it's part street circuit):

[Gilles 27]

Monaco is sooooooooo difficult for the drivers, by far the hardest on the calendar. It always has been too. The concentration level required is just so high and its massively bumpy with low grip and off-camber, it's extremely intense.

The old Spa was my favourite ever Grand Prix track, closely followed by Charade at Clermont Ferrand. That place is amazing with the 1969 cars on GPL

[Big Azza]

Monaco is sooooooooo difficult for the drivers, by far the hardest on the calendar. It always has been too. The concentration level required is just so high and its massively bumpy with low grip and off-camber, it's extremely intense.

The old Spa was my favourite ever Grand Prix track, closely followed by Charade at Clermont Ferrand. That place is amazing with the 1969 cars on GPL

Yes, Monaco does require skill.

Are you talking about the old 14km track? That is waaaaaay before my time, but the stories I've read about it aren't to pleasant. Like this from Wikipedia:

Another particularly gruesome story comes from the 1972 24 hour touring car race during which three drivers were killed. During one of his pitstops at night, Hans-Joachim Stuck shouted to his co-driver Jochen Mass over the noise that he should "look out for body parts at the Masta Kink". Mass arrived there expecting to see bits of car all over the road but was appalled to discover it was in fact bits of a marshal.

[Gilles 27]

Yeh the Masta Kink is one of the most terrifying corners ever to feature in F1. Eau Rouge wasn't really a big concern to the drivers in the 1960s, they were all worried about Masta. The 1960 Belgian GP was a bit of a bloodbath too. Amazing circuit to drive though, massive, massive speed, low grip, blind corners and elevation changes. Solitude is another of my favourites but i don't think that ever held a world championship round...

You should download Grand Prix Legends and have a go, great cars and track on that game, and loads of updates to keep it looking up to date

[Big Azza]

Yeh the Masta Kink is one of the most terrifying corners ever to feature in F1. Eau Rouge wasn't really a big concern to the drivers in the 1960s, they were all worried about Masta. The 1960 Belgian GP was a bit of a bloodbath too. Amazing circuit to drive though, massive, massive speed, low grip, blind corners and elevation changes. Solitude is another of my favourites but i don't think that ever held a world championship round...

You should download Grand Prix Legends and have a go, great cars and track on that game, and loads of updates to keep it looking up to date

I really wish I could. But my work computer is really, really crap.

And I really need my Spa Fix. I haven't been able to race that track for 5 years. It's not in Gran Turismo, and it wasn't in F105. I bought that Formula One game because I really wanted to race in Spa! I was very disappointed

Are there any awesome car racing games that I can play on my PS2 with these tracks? Perhaps I should start a new thread...

[darwin dali]

Perhaps I should start a new thread...

Definitely!

[Big Azza]

Perhaps I should start a new thread...

Definitely!

[Jensonb]

I would literally be outraged if we lost Hungary. Seriously.

[Gaz]

I would literally be outraged if we lost Hungary. Seriously.

How come?

[Gilles 27]

yeh, why?

[EwanM]

Again this is another one of Bernie's friends.

The Hungarian GP allows for East Europe to be represented. For Example the Poles and the Finns.

I doubt it'll be dropped.

[headless]

No tracks in Finland and Poland??
Finland have enoguh racers.

[Gilles 27]

Finland did have Kiemola, which now looks like this:



it's literally permanently on fire

[scotty]

Rather than starting a new thread... Fuji would be more of a loss (imo) than the Hungaroring!

Fuji may give up on Japanese GP

By Pablo Elizalde Friday, May 29th 2009, 08:11 GMT

Japanese GP at FujiThe Fuji Speedway circuit may give up next year's Japanese Grand Prix due to financial reasons.

Fuji, owned by car maker Toyota, replaced Suzuka as the home of the Japanese race in 2007, but a spokesman for the manufacturer told news agency Reuters that it was considering pulling the plug on the race.

"(Fuji's company) FISCO tell us they are taking various elements into account in their consideration towards hosting next year's Japanese Grand Prix," Toyota's Paul Nolasco said.

Honda's Suzuka circuit hosted the Japanese Grand Prix from 1986 to 2006 and will return to the calendar this season as it alternates hosting the race with Fuji on a yearly basis.

Honda left Formula 1 at the end of last year in order to save costs.

Shame, we've had two good races there.