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[Rapier]

I can understand your point, However KR has not always been able to stay in front of LH, why drop him into LH grasp, when throughout the season that has usually ended poorly for KR (stewards descisions not withstanding)

easy, two reasons for that:

1: Kimi was faster(which wasn't the case in the other encounters this season), so he could hold LH back in the sections of the track where passing is not possible, and stay a bit ahead in the sections there is is possible. If however it did happen(an error by Kimi) being the faster one of the two he should have passed him again.

2: LH could never take a risk is the this race, while KR could. So KR could easily hold his ground, and let LH deside to a: crash both cars or b: back down and stay behind.

[big ron]

How can you say Lewis would have passed kimi in the pits.

Easy, a random comment for a random opinion. And you really think Kimi could cover four places for the whole race? Nutcase!


ETA - Dons troll hat for the afternoon.

[scotty]

I'd have thought that they're realistic goals were make sure FM wins the race and make sure you don't risk the WCC. Lewis would have passed Kimi inthe pits so it made no difference.

Massa whould have secured the WCC easily on his own, have you seen the difference in the standings.

How can you say Lewis would have passed kimi in the pits, as exactly that DIDN'T happen and even if by the grace of god lewis got passed kimi, Kimi was the faster man, so he could have passed him easily by being agressive, LH would have backed down because he could never run the risk of crashing.

In the first half Hamilton was loaded with fuel, so they could have short filled him to get track position if Raikkonen had backed up a train of cars right in front of him if they needed to. The McLarens also ran less wing than the Ferrari's, so he wouldn't have necessarily just driven back past him.

I also don't know why you are just assuming that guys in the midfield would have been able to have a chance at passing Hamilton, cause if they were going that slowly then Hamilton would have conversely had opportunities at the cars in front of him.

This guy is also going on about Kubica passing Hamilton. Kubica started at the back you fool...

This is so stupid.

[Rapier]

How can you say Lewis would have passed kimi in the pits.

Easy, a random comment for a random opinion. And you really think Kimi could cover four places for the whole race? Nutcase!

no, a randon comment for a founded opinion, I have been trying to give you guys the seasons for my opinion, which I think are sound. Attack those if you want, but saying LH would pass KR when we all saw that just didn't happen and KR simply was faster in nonsence.

I also don't think Kimi should have cover four places, just one. The one directly in front of hamilton and being as slow as possible at that, and recovering that posision if it wen't wrong.

[Rapier]

double post

[big ron]

He didn't pass him in the pits because at that point he didn't need to. As Scotty says. Personally, i think your opinion is just that, an opinion.

[csrracer]

How can you say Lewis would have passed kimi in the pits.

Easy, a random comment for a random opinion. And you really think Kimi could cover four places for the whole race? Nutcase!


ETA - Dons troll hat for the afternoon.

I'm not much of a Kimi fan, and would jump in on the Kimi bashing except for the fact that I think you are off your rocker. I really don't believe Kimi made any decisions on his own, he was doing exactly what his team wanted him to do.

[Rapier]

In the first half Hamilton was loaded with fuel, so they could have short filled him to get track position if Raikkonen had backed up a train of cars right in front of him if they needed to. The McLarens also ran less wing than the Ferrari's, so he wouldn't have necessarily just driven back past him.

I also don't know why you are just assuming that guys in the midfield would have been able to have a chance at passing Hamilton, cause if they were going that slowly then Hamilton would have conversely had opportunities at the cars in front of him.

You do have a point there, fuel wise hamilton probably was heavier in his first stint. but still kimi would have made it back to his gearbox at least and go have gone for a pass at one point. kimi could simply risk so much more the lewis could.

I'm not assuming that at all, they could actually pass him, but they might have and the ones that got in front due to the first stop should have stayed there. Those are chances Ferrari should have maximized by slowing down Lewis.
And Lewis should been able to pass anyone on the track, bacause that it would have been Kimi directly in front at all times making that ferrari as wide as possible.

Clearly driving away from Lewis, so he could get the maximum out of his McLaren and make up places just can't be the best strategy if you wan't him to finish sixth or worse now can it.

This guy is also going on about Kubica passing Hamilton. Kubica started at the back you fool...

That's just you.

[Rapier]

I'm not much of a Kimi fan, and would jump in on the Kimi bashing except for the fact that I think you are off your rocker. I really don't believe Kimi made any decisions on his own, he was doing exactly what his team wanted him to do.

Fine, but that's not the point. If the team is responsable(and I think you are right on that one) then do you think Ferrari made a good choice in ordering KR to get to the front ASAP.

[scotty]

This guy is also going on about Kubica passing Hamilton. Kubica started at the back you fool...

That's just you.

Erm...

If this fails and RK get behinds LH, then overtake him rather agressively again, RK definately had the pace for this.

I know it's a typo, i just hope you can take a joke

[Rapier]

Okay you guys, I guess you guys just don't agree with me, and I'm though defending myself. I'll just leave you with this(which is where it boils down to)

Do you guys think that from Ferrari's point of view:

It's a good idea to have KR speed away from LH, so LH has a clear track in front of him and he can get the maximum out of his McLaren and making up places, if you desperately want LW to finish sixth or worse

Then regardless of me, do you agree of disagree with that statement.

[Rapier]

If this fails and RK get behinds LH, then overtake him rather agressively again, RK definately had the pace for this.

I know it's a typo, i just hope you can take a joke

typo indeed, sorry about that. I can take a joke, but it would have been a bit more fun for me as I would have realized it a bit sooner.

[big ron]

Okay you guys, I guess you guys just don't agree with me, and I'm though defending myself. I'll just leave you with this(which is where it boils down to)

Do you guys think that from Ferrari's point of view:

It's a good idea to have KR speed away from LH, so LH has a clear track in front of him and he can get the maximum out of his McLaren and making up places, if you desperately want LW to finish sixth or worse

Then regardless of me, do you agree of disagree with that statement.

How about answering this:

If you know the weather was going to be bad, and that Kimi has had a few wild moments in the wet this season whilst Massa is too slow and cautious and yet Hammy is dominant, would you really risk the WCC? Especially when you know the McLarens were loaded with fuel and had more options?

[Rapier]

yes, 11 points ahead in the WCC. a single ferrari in front of a McLaren would have done it. And after the first lap Kovalainen was way down, and Massa speeding away. Two very good reasons, both massa needed to drop out and kovalainen needed to get near the podium to be in any danger of loosing the WCC.

Also have having raikonnen directly in front of Hamilton would have secured the WCC, so job done go for the overal championship please.

[darwin dali]

I think you guys are being unfair to Rapier. He's got a good point and I was actually thinking the same during the race. How about KR blocking LH for the majority of the race - that would help FM.
I firmly believe Ferrari (I don't think KR did his race strategy on his own accord) went too conservative with their team strategy in Brazil. They could have gambled a bit more and have KR play a rear gunner or stopper and make McLaren change their strategy during the race, which in turn could have spelled some mishaps on its own and therefore handed the title to FM.