FORUMula1.com

[f1ea]

Are RBR sandbagging?

at a point they say "rumour has it.... he did a really fast lap with about 20kg"..... if they are basing their conclusion on "rumour has it".... well, rumour has a lot of things.

But yeah..... Red Bull are definitely sandbagging. They sandbagged all yr last season and still won the 2 CC's. Dont see any reason to do anything different. Except not allow their drivers to crash on track

[Robert12010]

Are RBR sandbagging?

at a point they say "rumour has it.... he did a really fast lap with about 20kg"..... if they are basing their conclusion on "rumour has it".... well, rumour has a lot of things.

But yeah..... Red Bull are definitely sandbagging. They sandbagged all yr last season and still won the 2 CC's. Dont see any reason to do anything different. Except not allow their drivers to crash on track

that was great

The only guys needing to "show" how fast they can be are those needing sponsors..... unfortunately they are the same guys whose cars break down before they can set a hot lap at all...

[What's Burning?]

So the only testing left in pre-season is the 4 days that were to take place in Bahrain, being moved back to Barcelona. No additional testing dates added whatsoever?

[spankyham]

So the only testing left in pre-season is the 4 days that were to take place in Bahrain, being moved back to Barcelona. No additional testing dates added whatsoever?

yep

Pitpass has reported the dates have changed from the 8-11 to 9-12. F1SA is reporting some teams will do 8-11 and other teams 9-12 (meaning practice will be at Barcelona for 5 days). But either way teams have 4 days practice left before the 1st race in Melb.

[vlad]

Yes, that's the case... Maybe this testing will change something, maybe we'll even see HRT cars haha!

[Robert12010]

Yes, that's the case... Maybe this testing will change something, maybe we'll even see HRT cars haha!

oh the joys of HRT!

[scotty]

Here's a complete set of lap times from what i believe was one single race simulation for each of the Merc guys, you can see just how the tyres are falling away and just how incredibly slow race paces are likely to be this season (think Singapore might hit the 2 hour time limit quite easily)... and also that perhaps Schumacher has the car a lot more to his liking now? Just throwing it out there... don't flame me for it.

Code: Select all

Schuey		Rosberg
01:30.456	01:32.431
01:30.657	01:32.329
01:31.326	01:31.943
01:31.206	01:32.480
01:31.526	01:32.236
01:31.998	01:32.218
01:32.517	01:32.119
01:33.481	01:32.256
01:33.516	01:34.230
01:33.564	01:32.745
01:33.685	01:33.837
01:33.803	---- 
01:34.814	01:33.837
---- 		01:30.151
01:31.264	01:30.453
01:31.982	01:30.855
01:32.432	01:30.967
01:32.227	---- 
01:31.331	01:30.967
01:31.714	01:31.767
01:31.782	01:31.370
01:31.785	01:31.609
01:31.764	01:32.072
01:32.312	01:32.394
01:32.524	01:32.632
01:32.361	01:32.486
01:32.878	01:33.000
01:33.076	01:33.511
---- 		01:33.530
01:33.076	---- 
01:29.095	01:33.530
01:29.803	01:30.941
01:30.247	01:30.935
01:30.220	01:31.253
01:30.629	01:31.216
01:30.268	01:30.851
01:30.150	01:30.980
01:31.079	01:31.188
01:30.578	01:31.315
01:31.077	01:33.799
01:30.650	01:31.512
01:30.426	01:31.678
01:30.473	01:32.693
01:30.937	01:32.246
01:31.015	01:32.170
01:31.870	01:32.869
---- 		01:32.875
01:31.870	01:33.537
01:27.569	01:35.080
01:28.356	---- 
01:28.644	01:35.080
01:28.706	01:28.219
01:28.400	01:28.658
01:28.435	01:28.990
01:29.407	01:30.178
01:31.284	01:30.228
01:30.283	01:30.047
01:29.830	01:30.143
01:29.885	01:30.576
01:30.545	01:31.121
01:30.232	01:32.151
---- 		01:30.754
		01:31.026
		----

[Gaz]

Jeez, based on that i think were gonna have 4 stoppers are some circuits.

Turkey, Canada?

If Jenson could walk this season if he can make a 3 stopper a 2 stopper.

its like giving him 30 seconds.

[texasmr2]

Here's a complete set of lap times from what i believe was one single race simulation for each of the Merc guys, you can see just how the tyres are falling away and just how incredibly slow race paces are likely to be this season (think Singapore might hit the 2 hour time limit quite easily)... and also that perhaps Schumacher has the car a lot more to his liking now? Just throwing it out there... don't flame me for it.

Code: Select all

Schuey		Rosberg
01:30.456	01:32.431
01:30.657	01:32.329
01:31.326	01:31.943
01:31.206	01:32.480
01:31.526	01:32.236
01:31.998	01:32.218
01:32.517	01:32.119
01:33.481	01:32.256
01:33.516	01:34.230
01:33.564	01:32.745
01:33.685	01:33.837
01:33.803	---- 
01:34.814	01:33.837
---- 		01:30.151
01:31.264	01:30.453
01:31.982	01:30.855
01:32.432	01:30.967
01:32.227	---- 
01:31.331	01:30.967
01:31.714	01:31.767
01:31.782	01:31.370
01:31.785	01:31.609
01:31.764	01:32.072
01:32.312	01:32.394
01:32.524	01:32.632
01:32.361	01:32.486
01:32.878	01:33.000
01:33.076	01:33.511
---- 		01:33.530
01:33.076	---- 
01:29.095	01:33.530
01:29.803	01:30.941
01:30.247	01:30.935
01:30.220	01:31.253
01:30.629	01:31.216
01:30.268	01:30.851
01:30.150	01:30.980
01:31.079	01:31.188
01:30.578	01:31.315
01:31.077	01:33.799
01:30.650	01:31.512
01:30.426	01:31.678
01:30.473	01:32.693
01:30.937	01:32.246
01:31.015	01:32.170
01:31.870	01:32.869
---- 		01:32.875
01:31.870	01:33.537
01:27.569	01:35.080
01:28.356	---- 
01:28.644	01:35.080
01:28.706	01:28.219
01:28.400	01:28.658
01:28.435	01:28.990
01:29.407	01:30.178
01:31.284	01:30.228
01:30.283	01:30.047
01:29.830	01:30.143
01:29.885	01:30.576
01:30.545	01:31.121
01:30.232	01:32.151
---- 		01:30.754
		01:31.026
		----

[What's Burning?]

Tisk tisk Tex. You're the old timer saying pre season lap times mean nothing.

[Hammer278]

Jeez, based on that i think were gonna have 4 stoppers are some circuits.

Turkey, Canada?

If Jenson could walk this season if he can make a 3 stopper a 2 stopper.

its like giving him 30 seconds.

This is one thing I like about the rapidly deteriorating tyres - it will show once and for all that Jenson is a master at 'conserving' tyres = MYTH.

He's just slow...and 2011 will prove it.

[Denthúl]

Jeez, based on that i think were gonna have 4 stoppers are some circuits.

Turkey, Canada?

If Jenson could walk this season if he can make a 3 stopper a 2 stopper.

its like giving him 30 seconds.

You're forgetting that temperatures during the testing season are well below the actual operating window for the rubber and, as such, cause increased deterioration of the tyres. I think we're looking at two stops being the norm, with three stops at certain events (perhaps the early races if they get particularly hot, and Canada), as the harder compounds are still reasonably durable, but not to the excessive level that the Bridgestones were. Things won't be the same during the season as they were in testing.

[nish2280]

Jeez, based on that i think were gonna have 4 stoppers are some circuits.

Turkey, Canada?

If Jenson could walk this season if he can make a 3 stopper a 2 stopper.

its like giving him 30 seconds.

This is one thing I like about the rapidly deteriorating tyres - it will show once and for all that Jenson is a master at 'conserving' tyres = MYTH.

He's just slow...and 2011 will prove it.

He has some great excuses as well.

[vaptin]

You know, the merit of that Jenson V Lewis thread, was it (mainly) kept the fanboyish rants in one place (and out of decent threads).

[FRAFPDD]

Jeez, based on that i think were gonna have 4 stoppers are some circuits.

Turkey, Canada?

If Jenson could walk this season if he can make a 3 stopper a 2 stopper.

its like giving him 30 seconds.

This is one thing I like about the rapidly deteriorating tyres - it will show once and for all that Jenson is a master at 'conserving' tyres = MYTH.

He's just slow...and 2011 will prove it.

He has some great excuses as well.

Im pretty sure Jenson won two races before Lewis got one?