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[McLaren Fan]

Force india and Williams are supportive of FOM/FIA's serires... and also Jacques Villeneuve said he's interested in a return to FOM's series.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... 1530.shtml

No offence but:

Like I say, if there is a breakaway series, Villeneuve could get his second title after all.

[Gaz]

Force india and Williams are supportive of FOM/FIA's serires... and also Jacques Villeneuve said he's interested in a return to FOM's series.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... 1530.shtml

No offence but:

don't knock him mate hes only 38 and Hill was 36 when he won his WDC.

hes bring in North American viewers anyway

[Denthúl]

Mosley believes split unlikely to happen

By Jonathan Noble Friday, June 19th 2009, 17:05 GMT

Max MosleyFIA president Max Mosley has dismissed the threat of a breakaway championship as 'posturing' by teams, and is confident a compromise settlement will be reached in time for the first race of 2010.

Following the bombshell announcement made by the eight members of the Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) that they were commencing plans for a rival series, Mosley has made it clear that he is not too worried about the situation.

He believes that eventually the teams will soften their stance, and he thinks it highly unlikely that they will be able to afford to set up a second F1 series.

"I don't take it as seriously as some people do because I know that it is all posturing and posing," Mosley explained in a lengthy interview with the BBC on Friday. "It will all stop sometime between the beginning of 2010 and March 2010, the first race. All this will stop, it will all settle down and everyone will go racing."

When asked if he was totally sure there would be a solution that headed off the possibility of two championships, Mosley said: "Absolutely. I am completely confident because in the end people do what it is in their interests to do.

"It is in the interests of the teams to be in the F1 world championship and there is actually no fundamental or important issue that is stopping them taking part. It is all about personalities and power and who can grab what from whom, which is easy when nothing is at stake but when it gets to the first race and it is make your mind up time, they will be there."

Despite the hardline stance adopted by FOTA, Mosley believes that there is little chance of the breakaway reaching fruition - and said it was easy for teams to talk up their plans at this stage of the year.

"They can be very hard at the moment because it doesn't actually come to anything until March 2010," he explained. "So we are nine months away. Everybody can posture and pose, but we all know that when it gets to Melbourne 2010 there will be a F1 world championship and everyone who can be in it will be in it."

He added: "Always with these things there is a compromise because they cannot afford not to run in the F1 world championship, and we would be very reluctant to have a Formula 1 world championship without them, and I am talking about the eight teams there.

"I think some of them will disappear because some of the manufacturers will look at the amount of money being spent, the measures they are having to take within their companies, the people being laid off and accepting government money to keep going, and they are going to find it very difficult to keep pumping hundreds of millions into F1.

"So I think we will lose one or two or maybe three manufacturer teams, so we will need new teams to make up the space. But the great traditional teams, and I would include Ferrari in that, they need to be there and they will be there for sure. It will get sorted out."

But...I thought the deadline was tonight at the latest?

[f1ea]

Like I say, if there is a breakaway series, Villeneuve could get his second title after all.

It will be really close battle between JV and Fisichella...
All decided with his 4th Gold Medal in front of 25 spectators in the Kuwait GP, the 6th round of the series.

[Denthúl]

Like I say, if there is a breakaway series, Villeneuve could get his second title after all.

It will be really close battle between JV and Fisichella...
All decided with his 4th Gold Medal in front of 25 spectators in the Kuwait GP, the 6th round of the series.

If the breakaway happens, Williams stay with the FIA and Rosberg stays with Williams, then young Nico would win every race.

[Gaz]

slight signs of a backdown then.

thats good we'll know when he releases the final entry list if the likes of Ferrari, Mclaren etc are on it then we'll know he's trying to give them the option to join and he might back down.

[Denthúl]

slight signs of a backdown then.

thats good we'll know when he releases the final entry list if the likes of Ferrari, Mclaren etc are on it then we'll know he's trying to give them the option to join and he might back down.

I think that the FIA stated in the press release regarding legal action that they were going to postpone publication of the entry-list until that action was over, but nothing about delaying the finalisation of the process.

[tifosi]

Dear Mosley,

GET THE f*** OUT! You are a flaming and a . You have done enough. Is your goal to end F1? Well, you have about done just that. Too bad that the relationship between the teams is strong and your task has failed. Let the new series start and let it be better then ever. What now mosley , what now ?!? Have fun with your prostitutes .

Sincerely,

Tifosi

I cant believe this fag actually is suing the teams...

/Rant

[Gaz]

slight signs of a backdown then.

thats good we'll know when he releases the final entry list if the likes of Ferrari, Mclaren etc are on it then we'll know he's trying to give them the option to join and he might back down.

I think that the FIA stated in the press release regarding legal action that they were going to postpone publication of the entry-list until that action was over, but nothing about delaying the finalisation of the process.

i don't see how there legaly obligated to race in 2010

Mosley is a really nasty piece of work

[bud]

You know what would have been fitting,

if FOTA declared their breakaway on the 4th of July

[MAD MAX]

You know what would have been fitting,

if FOTA declared their breakaway on the 4th of July

[Jensonb]

You know what would have been fitting,

if FOTA declared their breakaway on the 4th of July

Classic! That's definitely the day they should detail it

Well Max, congratulations. You finally did it. You undid all the good work done by many great people over 60 years. How ironic, from one of the men who led the revolution against FISA's governance.

Once again, I'm going to use a Batman metaphor.

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

[Gaz]

You know what would have been fitting,

if FOTA declared their breakaway on the 4th of July

Classic! That's definitely the day they should detail it

Well Max, congratulations. You finally did it. You undid all the good work done by many great people over 60 years. How ironic, from one of the men who led the revolution against FISA's governance.

Once again, I'm going to use a Batman metaphor.

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

Yep, pretty much he got too power hungry and it courpted him. Or perhaps he was always like that and just used the FISA event as a way to get power

he needs to step down and the teams will return.

[McLaren Fan]

From F1 Live:

Ecclestone urged to broker peace deal

By Jonathan Noble Friday, June 19th 2009, 10:01 GMT

Formula 1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone has been urged to step forward and broker a peace deal between teams and the FIA to head off the threat of a breakaway championship.

The eight members of the Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) sent shockwaves through F1 on Thursday night when they announced that they were setting up a rival championship for next year.

With fears that the breakaway could prove damaging, just as American racing suffered when Champ Car and the Indy Racing League split, former world champion Jackie Stewart believes that Ecclestone must play a part in sorting the situation out.

"The biggest player now that may have to be involved in this is Bernie, because after all he has the commercial rights," said Stewart.

"I am sure he does not want a breakaway group, because then that would seriously threaten [F1 owners] CVC and the Bernie Ecclestone package.

"Bernie knows how to do things, he has been very successful in F1 and the sport has been successful with much of what he has done. So he will be playing a fairly big role within the next two or three days.

"But frankly now the teams have made their decision and I don't think they will necessarily have to talk to the FIA at all this weekend. I think they should just get on with the British GP because it is one of the biggest events in the calendar.

"It is very important for the leaders of the world championship to consolidate their position and I believe they should not even bother to talk until Monday or Tuesday."

Ecclestone's role in events is being seen as crucial now, with sources close to FOTA suggesting that the body would not be averse to him playing a role in its new championship.

The man himself was keeping tight-lipped about the situation on Friday morning, however, ducking questions from the media about the situation.

"You'll have to ask Max about it," said Ecclestone about the breakaway plans. "For me, this situation is just back to the future."

Stewart believes that teams' frustrations at the way F1 has been run was the spur for making the bold step to set up their own series.

"I think it's been coming for some time," said Stewart, who has been a long-term critic of the FIA. "I think the teams feel that they have been bullied in some way for quite a long time, trying to force things through.

"I've said for a long time that the FIA needs to be restructured and there needs to be more corporate governance. If that had taken place we would not be in the position we're in at the present time.

"The constant change of the values of what has been suggested, with Max saying first of all £30 million [for a budget cap], then £40 million, then £40 million and we won't put engines or motorhomes in that, it is constantly changing the goalposts. I don't think you can do that in a sport that is the largest capital investment sport in the world."

There are now suggestions that the only way a breakaway can be averted is if FIA president Max Mosley sees through with his plans to step down from his current role when his term ends in October.

An announcement on his intentions could be made as early as next week, with the World Motor Sport Council meeting on Wednesday.

Stewart has no doubts that teams want Mosley's reign of running the sport to come to an end.

"I think they do want Max to go because I think frankly some of the decisions made over the year have been very questionable... I think a lot of people are kind of fed up with the dictatorial attitude."

He added: "I think right now the teams don't have to do anything. They just have to decide how they are going to do what they have said they are going to do, but I think from their point of view it seems that they have made that decision. I think it is now up to the FIA to perhaps come with a totally different proposal."

[McLaren Fan]

From F1 Live:

Vijay Mallya cut a forlorn figure as he addressed the international media on Friday, having committed for 2010 to a series whose future is under a very dark cloud.

The Indian billionaire's outfit Force India recently followed Williams in breaking ranks with FOTA and signing up to the FIA world championship.

But on Friday the sport was deep in crisis: eight FOTA teams on one hand threatening to start their own series, and the governing FIA vowing legal action against them.

Facing the prospect of sharing a grid with Williams and a band of unfamiliar team names next year, Mallya said: "As of now, Force India is a confirmed entrant to the FIA 2010 Formula One world championship and we wait to see the developments over the weekend.

"Until a clear direction has been identified, we do not wish to make any further comments."

He is clearly leaving open the door to the FOTA alliance, despite being expelled by the body for defecting.

"We have been completely open and transparent with FOTA," Mallya insisted. “We have shared the legal and commercial obligations that necessitated our unconditional entry into next year's Formula One world championship."

Source: GMM
© CAPSIS International

Mallya is hedging his bets. I suspect Williams when adopt a similar tone if or when the time comes for them to choose sides.