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By Dutchcruijff
#61020
That's because they're good at Rugby. Wales and N.Ireland are well crap at football :D

Aussie's position higher than us was short-lived. :thumbup:
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By AKR
#61024
why dont Great Britain field a Football team?


They have in the past and won it 4 times. (3 times Gold as the first one was unoffical). Great Britain won the Olympic Football tournament in 1896, 1900, 1908 and 1912. However that was in the very early days. Nowadays there is no such football team as Great Britain. It is either England, Scotland, Wales or Nothern Ireland. All are really seperate countries but United as one kingdom also known as the United Kingdom or Great Britain. In many sports competitions they compete as seperate countries. Ie in football, rugby, cricket and The Commonwealth Games. But then again in many sports they are one country as in the Olympics, F1, and tennis to name a few. It makes no sense and is inconsistent. They should do it one way or the other. Not however they feel like it. At the moment it really makes no sense and is comfusing. But with football I guess they are all to passionate. I don't think the English want to play with the Scots etc and vice versa. Even their respective leagues are seperate. Goodluck with putting a Great Britain football team for 2012. :wink:
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By McLaren Fan
#61034
That's because they're good at Rugby. Wales and N.Ireland are well crap at football :D

We haven't been doing too badly lately. We would have qualified for the European Championships had Sanchez not have disappeared and been replaced with Worthless, sorry, Worthington. Also, we are the second smallest ever team to qualify for the World Cup, the smallest ever team to do it repeatedly, and the smallest ever team to qualify for the quarter finals. Not bad for a country with a population of 1.5 million (of which a fair chunk prefers to play for/support the Republic of Ireland and/or supports or plays for the GAA).

I don't think the English want to play with the Scots etc and vice versa. Even their respective leagues are seperate. Goodluck with putting a Great Britain football team for 2012. :wink:

I hope the attempts fail. I'm not interested in watching England's bunch of over-paid spice boys playing under some guise of national unity.
By al4x
#61037
I hope the attempts fail. I'm not interested in watching England's bunch of over-paid spice boys playing under some guise of national unity.


completely agree, football, national sport, oh the shame!! i honestly would rather carpet bowls or tidily winks be the nationla sport
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By Rivelution
#61050
Usain Bolt from Jamaica is friggin fast!! He ran a 9.69s 100 meter dash and he probably would've gone faster if he didnt caost the last 15 meters. The 100 isnt even his best event, so I cant wait to see what he does in the 200. I cant wait for the 4x100 relay.

I've been watching the gymnastics and I must say Shawn Johnson is a babe :D
By Mikep99
#61064
Usain Bolt from Jamaica is friggin fast!! He ran a 9.69s 100 meter dash and he probably would've gone faster if he didnt caost the last 15 meters. The 100 isnt even his best event, so I cant wait to see what he does in the 200. I cant wait for the 4x100 relay.

I've been watching the gymnastics and I must say Shawn Johnson is a babe :D


Usain should change his name to INSANE Bolt, he is incredible :yikes:
By Mikep99
#61065
Conspiracy theroy. And SUPRISE SUPRISE it does NOT involve Ferrari (this time anyhow)

DID MICHAEL PHELPS REALLY WIN THAT 7TH GOLD MEDAL AT THE 2008 BEIJING OLYMPICS
OR
WAS THIS A CONSPIRACY OF OLYMPIC PROPORTIONS?
BECAUSE A FUNNY THING HAPPENED IN THE WATER CUBE.



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Background:

On August 15th a corporately-owned athlete by the name of Michael Phelps participated in a 100-meter Butterfly finals race at the 2008 Beijing Olympics. He was heavy favorite to win this race, despite losing the same race in qualifying session against someone who is, in ignorant world we live in commonly refered to as "some guy", but who in the world of competitive swimming is actually the "big fish" by the name of Milorad Cavic. The world's media attention turned toward Phelps expecting him to tie Mark Spitz' 36-year-old record. But, as it turned out, Michael Phelps did not start this race as expected. At the 50-meter mark he was only 7th out of 8th participants. Milorad Cavic led the race from start to finish, including at the 50-meter mark. Toward the end of the race, it appeared that Phelps closed on Cavic's lead, but still could not manage to beat him. The eyes of all the spectators in the aquatic center in Beijing, as well as those millions around the world, clearly saw that Milorad Cavic has won the race. Televised replays from all the different angles, including the one from underwater cameras, clearly showed that Cavic was the fist one to touch the wall. Television replays also showed Michael Phelps' coach Bob Bowman disappointedly muttering: "He's got him." (meaning that Cavic beat Phelps). Phelps' own mother sitting in the audience in all her confusion raised two fingers in the air as if accepting that her son came in second. Even Phelps himself, in the fist couple of seconds after the finish, appeared to be subdued knowing/believing that he lost the race. But, something happened there, and the official timekeeper of the event OMEGA showed that Phelps supposedly won by 0.01 of a second. That is 100th part of one second, and the lowest margin of difference allowed in the official swimming contests.

001 OF A SECOND?

Yes, the underwater sensors of the official timekeeper of the event, the watchmaker Omega, have determined that Michael Phelps, has won this race by 0.01 of a second.

0.01 OF A SECOND?

Was this an ad for a watchmaker or what?

But the devil is indeed in the detail.

How is it that the official timekeeper of the event is the same company that sponsors Phelps since 2004? Isn't there a clear conflict of interest here? You know how deligthtfully messed up that is?? That's like having Tim Donaghy officiating in NBA games, and also placing bets on them. And why are leading FINA officials unashamedly and brazenly the biggest cheerleaders of Michael Phelps? We are not talking about NBC and other American-broadcasters who have clear interest in weaving the mythical narrative in their sickening quest for the largest share of ratings, and for purposes of appeasing (read: licking asses of) their advertisers (and therefore for their economical ends) who buy such ridiculously overpriced ad slots. We are not talking about millions of average American fans who are being assaulted by some of the biggest sport-related media hype in history (Hi Bob!). We are not talking about millions of biased American fans that only care that Phelps is an American who "kicks bottom". We are not talking about millions of white Americans who rejoice and cherish the success and worldwide fame of an all-white athlete in a sport where speed, stamina and physical contributions are of outmost importance. Instead, we are talking about the officials of FINA, the supposedly neutral governing and regulating body of this sport. Think of the possibilities of inbreeding my friends. Shame on you FINA! Shame on you IOC!

Finally, we can't help but to spotlight the emotional immaturity of the man himself. After the race Michael Phelps commented how he found an extra motivation before the race in the Cavic's statements that it would be good for the sport of swimming if Phelps lost. Whaaaat? This implies that Phelps thinks that nobody should say anything? That nobody should have their own right to exist and win? That the competitors should say nothing and instead should simply bow in front of his hyped-up "majesty"? Sadly, like every other red-white-and-blue delusional outthere that believes everything he reads -- Michael Phelps, too -- exhibits symptoms of that infamous and stereotypical "ugly American" condition.

Finally, if you think this is just about one race in some stupid sport that nobody cares about, think again.

This is the end my friend. Dumbing down of America before the marketing and media and political gods is long complete. Knowingly or not we are in it just for the sake of chasing our own tails. Eating our own young. We are part of the societal and global loop structure that is larger than the capability of our individual comprehension of the matters that concern us and our well-beings. We are pre-wired, pre-programmed, and our basic emotions and life experiences are pre-determined. We are intellectual cyborgs that have inbred and self-mutated. Worst of all -- we come with no expiration date.

So rejoice away my friends, and look forward to another manufactured spectacle brought to you by the masters of the global loop whose unwitting part you are. No amount of Bob Costas-induced stupor will change that.

But until that time, WE DEMAND that FINA and IOC cease with the downright wrong practice of allowing athletes' sponsors, in individual sports, to also be the timekeepers of the events where those athletes appear. Not only is the potential abuse always present, but the whole thing is completely in contravention of the original aim of the Olympic games; which was a celebration of human spirit via achievements of the human body; as opposed to today's Olympic spirit which is nothing but a celebration of corporate greed and commercial excess by way of drugged-up individuals in their pursuit of hefty endorsements and 5 minutes of fame.

And, finally, WE also DEMAND that somebody in the U.S. organizes a swimmimg event which would feature another race just between Michael Phelps and Milorad Cavic. But with a catch. That Phelps and Cavic be strictly forbidden for being personally paid for this event. Instead, their share of the proceeds should go to the charities of their choice. This race between the two swimmers would not only be a commercial success for its organizers and pay-per-view broadcasters (and it's all about $ isn't it,) but will also, perhaps, clear some doubt that was obviously raised in connection with the way how Phelps obtained his 7th gold medal at the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Most importantly, by donating their fees from this event to the charities of their choice these athletes would contribute to the greater cause, which is probably something that is lacking from their agenda at the moment.

Facts:

Milorad Cavic beats Michael Phelps (QUALIFYING SESSION) at the 2008 Beijing Olympics (Source: Reuters)

Milorad Cavic beats Michael Phelps (FINALS SESSION) at the 2008 Beijing Olympics (Source: NBC)


Photo finish freeze frame at the finals session speaks volumes. (Photo: Heinz Kluetmeier/SI)

OMEGA is the official sponsor of Michael Phelps since 2004. (Source: OmegaWatches.com)

What is that mysterious OMEGA "BLACK BOX"? And why does OMEGA use the word "compromising" in the same sentence? (Source: OmegaWatches.com)

Michael Phelps in an OMEGA sponsored lane at the finish line next to Milorad Cavic (Source: Michael Kappeler/AFP/Getty Images, August 16)

Global head of sponsorship management for VISA Inc.: "The objective of Phelps' sponsors is to expand Michael's presence in other markets." (Source: Washington Post, August 18)

The greatest whatever athlete of all-time can't bear to look the truth in the eyes (Source: unknown)

FINA official cheers for Phelps and promises: "(Phelps) would have won the race no matter what." (I mean WHAT THE HECK IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN???)(Source: San Francisco Chronicle, August 16)

FINA official refuses to release the conclusive evidence of Phelps' win, and states the following: "We are not going to distribute footage. We are not doing these kinds of things. Everything is good." (Source: New York Times, August 16)

"To the naked eye it appeared to be either a dead heat or a Cavic victory." (Source: San Jose Mercury News, August 16)

"Replays of Phelps's finish compared with Cavic's appeared to show Cavic reached the wall ahead of his American rival." (Source: Globe and Mail, August 16)

"To the naked eye, Phelps surely lost" (Source: AOL Sports, August 16)

Jay Mariotti: "Let's make something clear: It wouldn't have been good for sport, swimming or anyone but Cavic had Phelps lost. Losing his final individual race would have been one of the great letdowns in sports history." (Source: Chicago Sun-Times, August 16)

Cavic: "If we got to do this again, I would win it." (Source: LA Times, August 16)
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By Rivelution
#61066
Cavic lost, end of story. He screwed up his own race by not taking an extra stroke at the end.



Usain should change his name to INSANE Bolt, he is incredible :yikes:


Yeah no kidding. Asafa Powell proved that he cant run under pressure by geting 5th...again.
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By 8-ball
#61073
interesting, i havent seen that 100m race


You should watch it is incredible what Usain did. What are the chances that 3 years later we find out he was smoking something...
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By AKR
#61081
I hope the attempts fail. I'm not interested in watching England's bunch of over-paid spice boys playing under some guise of national unity.


completely agree, football, national sport, oh the shame!! i honestly would rather carpet bowls or tidily winks be the nationla sport


Why do you dislike football so much? Football is great. What would you rather then have as England's national sport? Cricket perhaps? How boring!
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By bud
#61084
I hope the attempts fail. I'm not interested in watching England's bunch of over-paid spice boys playing under some guise of national unity.


completely agree, football, national sport, oh the shame!! i honestly would rather carpet bowls or tidily winks be the nationla sport


Why do you dislike football so much? Football is great. What would you rather then have as England's national sport? Cricket perhaps? How boring!


see AKR alot of people in the world see Soccer as a boring game, while i would argue that 20twenty Cricket is alot more exciting even ODI Cricket than Soccer. I would love to see 20Twenty as an Olympic event, Cricket is more international than Baseball!
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