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[McLaren Fan]

Sorry Scotty don't buy it.

The tight budget that saw Honda build 3 different cars and then test them all in the wind tunnel and choose the best. Also i've read that Brawn said the engine swoop was easy since the engines are very simlar

And the 150 million handshake Brawn got from Brawn.

Huh?

Honda, sorry. You know what I meant.

[darwin dali]

Sorry Scotty don't buy it.

The tight budget that saw Honda build 3 different cars and then test them all in the wind tunnel and choose the best. Also i've read that Brawn said the engine swoop was easy since the engines are very simlar

And the 150 million handshake Brawn got from Brawn.

Huh?

Honda, sorry. You know what I meant.

I was actually thinking Mercedes - already?

[Gaz]

Sorry Scotty don't buy it.

The tight budget that saw Honda build 3 different cars and then test them all in the wind tunnel and choose the best. Also i've read that Brawn said the engine swoop was easy since the engines are very simlar

Even if that were true then it's still not as ideal as it could be. What i found most impressive was that each driver used the same chassis all season!

Yeah, true but its not exacly a poor team with an amazing design.

I also read they had a Honda V8 Clone on the table but went with the Merc due to the fact its amazing.

[scotty]

Yeah, so if they get the best engine properly seated in the car next season...?

Also:

Brawn confident of strong 2010 season

By Jonathan Noble Friday, October 23rd 2009, 09:42 GMT

Ross Brawn is confident his team will not just be a one-hit wonder, after expressing optimism about the progress already made with its 2010 car.

Having achieved the remarkable feat of winning both world titles on the back of a winter when the team did not even know if it would be in F1 at all, Brawn thinks that there is every reason to feel the outfit can do even better in some areas next year.

In particular, he feels with fairly static regulations, plus eradicating the compromises that had to be made to rush-fit the Mercedes-Benz engine this year, progress can be made for 2010.

"Well, we have a very good engine. That's important," said Brawn, when asked about what factors he felt would ensure the team remained competitive next year.

"I think next year's regulations are really an extension of this year's. We have no re-fuelling and some different tyres, but they are not so dramatically different.

"I have seen the new car, seen the progress we have made, particularly in aerodynamic performance. So I think we will be competitive, where we will be exactly nobody knows.

"We are making good progress for next year's car; the engine is being installed properly from the very beginning which is a big step forward. So I am quietly confident that we can be competitive next year. Whether we will be able to win races no one knows. But I think we will be pretty respectable."

Brawn believes the way that Brawn started the year so strongly, but Red Bull Racing finished it with a flourish, can be explained by the way both teams approached the season.

Red Bull's tight packaging around the rear and its pull-rod suspension configuration were not optimised for exploiting double-diffusers early on, but once the car was sorted it hit top-form - as Brawn struggled with the compromises it had to make to fit the Mercedes power-unit.

"It was a season of two halves," explained Brawn. "I think you have got our car which was probably on average the strongest car in the first half, and their car was probably the strongest in the second half. That's it really.

"I think some of the decisions they made in terms of the lay-out of the car that have given them an advantage now, were probably difficult to manage in the first part of the year. I think some of the compromises we had to make to fit the engine, which weren't apparent in the first half, are now starting to hurt us.

"The car is too heavy, the centre of gravity is too high, and there are things which are not good on the car which will be fixed for next year. You can't put an engine in a car in six weeks when it normally takes six months, without making some compromises."

[darwin dali]

Yeah, so if they get the best engine properly seated in the car next season...?

Also:

Brawn confident of strong 2010 season

By Jonathan Noble Friday, October 23rd 2009, 09:42 GMT

Ross Brawn is confident his team will not just be a one-hit wonder, after expressing optimism about the progress already made with its 2010 car.

Having achieved the remarkable feat of winning both world titles on the back of a winter when the team did not even know if it would be in F1 at all, Brawn thinks that there is every reason to feel the outfit can do even better in some areas next year.

In particular, he feels with fairly static regulations, plus eradicating the compromises that had to be made to rush-fit the Mercedes-Benz engine this year, progress can be made for 2010.

"Well, we have a very good engine. That's important," said Brawn, when asked about what factors he felt would ensure the team remained competitive next year.

"I think next year's regulations are really an extension of this year's. We have no re-fuelling and some different tyres, but they are not so dramatically different.

"I have seen the new car, seen the progress we have made, particularly in aerodynamic performance. So I think we will be competitive, where we will be exactly nobody knows.

"We are making good progress for next year's car; the engine is being installed properly from the very beginning which is a big step forward. So I am quietly confident that we can be competitive next year. Whether we will be able to win races no one knows. But I think we will be pretty respectable."

Brawn believes the way that Brawn started the year so strongly, but Red Bull Racing finished it with a flourish, can be explained by the way both teams approached the season.

Red Bull's tight packaging around the rear and its pull-rod suspension configuration were not optimised for exploiting double-diffusers early on, but once the car was sorted it hit top-form - as Brawn struggled with the compromises it had to make to fit the Mercedes power-unit.

"It was a season of two halves," explained Brawn. "I think you have got our car which was probably on average the strongest car in the first half, and their car was probably the strongest in the second half. That's it really.

"I think some of the decisions they made in terms of the lay-out of the car that have given them an advantage now, were probably difficult to manage in the first part of the year. I think some of the compromises we had to make to fit the engine, which weren't apparent in the first half, are now starting to hurt us.

"The car is too heavy, the centre of gravity is too high, and there are things which are not good on the car which will be fixed for next year. You can't put an engine in a car in six weeks when it normally takes six months, without making some compromises."

[vaptin]

Good stuff Ross,

[Arsenal 1-nil]

I suspect that Red Bull will have the best car marginally follow by Ferlaren. However no one but McLaren have Hamilton and that'll be the difference come the championship.

[darwin dali]

I suspect that Red Bull will have the best car marginally follow by Ferlaren. However no one but McLaren have Hamilton and that'll be the difference come the championship.

Dunno, dunno...

[Rivelution]

I suspect that Red Bull will have the best car marginally follow by Ferlaren. However no one but McLaren have Hamilton and that'll be the difference come the championship.

I think Ferrari will have the best car next season.

[scotty]

I suspect that Red Bull will have the best car marginally follow by Ferlaren. However no one but McLaren have Hamilton and that'll be the difference come the championship.

I think Ferrari will have the best car next season.

Big call... I suppose they now have Alonso who is worth 6 tenths a lap

[Rivelution]

I suspect that Red Bull will have the best car marginally follow by Ferlaren. However no one but McLaren have Hamilton and that'll be the difference come the championship.

I think Ferrari will have the best car next season.

Big call... I suppose they now have Alonso who is worth 6 tenths a lap

Well lets look at it. Ferrari stopped developing this years car in Hungary to work on next years car. Alonso I'm sure will help with as much as he can with testing, as will Felipe. Both drivers will want to prove themselves; Its been 2 years since Alonso's been in a competitive car, and Felipe probably wants to have a strong comeback. I know its a big call, but I'm putting my money on Ferrari as the team to beat next year.

[bud]

Well lets look at it. Ferrari stopped developing this years car in Hungary

Belgium

[Rivelution]

Well lets look at it. Ferrari stopped developing this years car in Hungary

Belgium

Our direct competitors are still improving their car, while we have been using the same car since the race in Hungary at the end of July."

[bud]

Well lets look at it. Ferrari stopped developing this years car in Hungary

Belgium

Our direct competitors are still improving their car, while we have been using the same car since the race in Hungary at the end of July."

thats some funny PR right there, they brought a new rear wing to Spa, Even on F1.com's technical updates.

[ivey]

Well lets look at it. Ferrari stopped developing this years car in Hungary

Belgium

Our direct competitors are still improving their car, while we have been using the same car since the race in Hungary at the end of July."

thats some funny PR right there, they brought a new rear wing to Spa, Even on F1.com's technical updates.

from old updates maybe

Though I also believe in Ferrari, and McLaren because MW said they were on a very good pace with improving their 2010 car