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[csrracer]

IMO I thought it was odd, that they ran Hamilton very heavy on fuel, my only guess is, Mclaren was afraid of a safety car scenario, I believe it's one of the reason's his car just wasn't fast enough.

[McLaren Fan]

Is Hamilton the only one responsible for his strategy?

are you saying Mclaren messed up?

What do you mean am I saying? I have already said I didn't agree with McLaren's plan. The team were right in realising they had no need to go all out and win the race, but they left Hamilton with very little room for maneuver if the s*** hit the fan. So, yeah, McLaren could have done things slightly differently at the weekend, but you win and lose together as a team. Hamilton himself has made mistakes this season.

so then you agree with point then! Hamiltons performance at brazil wasnt so great. I dont know why youve just argued with me to agree with my point

I'm afraid you are confused. I think McLaren and Hamilton could have decided on a better strategy, but there was nothing wrong with Hamilton's driving per se.

[big ron]

was his effort in brazil a convincing effort for the world championship to you? He almost lost it by being over cautious and afraid of his engine (which was fine)? I would say luck played a part

I've heard this sort of opinion on here a few times and it's as daft as they come. It's a bit like all the tosserifosi saying Massa deserved the WCC based on his performance in the last race. Lewis' effort in Brazil was worthy of fifth place in that race, his effort over the season was more than convincing of a world champion. Especially for someone in their second season, and even more so for his age.

As for trying to compare Lewis to all the greats, well, if you compare him to any of those guys in their second season I think you'll find he's doing pretty good.

[bmwpower]

Not only is this thread stupid, but its the weakest one too. Every Champion is a Champion for a reason, because they deserved it. So if Massa won the Champion, would it be weak because Toyota made a right tire choice?? Massa was gracious in accepting his defeat, I am hoping some of you b*tches can do the same

[7UpJordan]

My dad usually thinks Keke Rosberg was the weakest Champion in that season "nobody wanted to win" in 1982 when he won just the solitary race at Dijon. Gilles might have done it that year had tragedy not struck at Zolder, the Ferrari was the best car by miles that year.

[Hanwombat]

Oh my days, this thread is pathetic, some people need to get off their high horse

[scotty]

My dad usually thinks Keke Rosberg was the weakest Champion in that season "nobody wanted to win" in 1982 when he won just the solitary race at Dijon. Gilles might have done it that year had tragedy not struck at Zolder, the Ferrari was the best car by miles that year.

My dad says the same about Rosberg's title victory, hence why i mentioned it earlier in this thread.

Oh my days, this thread is pathetic, some people need to get off their high horse

Yeah, seriously.

[7UpJordan]

My dad usually thinks Keke Rosberg was the weakest Champion in that season "nobody wanted to win" in 1982 when he won just the solitary race at Dijon. Gilles might have done it that year had tragedy not struck at Zolder, the Ferrari was the best car by miles that year.

My dad says the same about Rosberg's title victory, hence why i mentioned it earlier in this thread.

Oh my days, this thread is pathetic, some people need to get off their high horse

Yeah, seriously.

Indeed, it's because of the sudden pathetic sour grapes some people have suddenly turned up with that I didn't see your earlier post about your father also thinking Keke's Championship was lucky.

[csrracer]

Kyro get past your hate for Lewis, championships are won over the course of an entire season not the last race! and if not for the final stages where it rained he was running P4 that is convincing enough given his circumstances! you seem to have quicly forgotten how convincing his win in a China was and just as important as ever other point he earned this year!

was his effort in brazil a convincing effort for the world championship to you? He almost lost it by being over cautious and afraid of his engine (which was fine)? I would say luck played a part

Of course luck plays a part, and it would have been extremly Lucky for Glock to finish in 4th, in the wet on dry tires.You can say Hamilton almost lost and it was bad strategy, or you can come back to the real world where the rest of us live and say,
"Hamilton ran a smart race and nursed his ailing car back home to become a World Champion." It's pointless to say he should have pushed harder or he was overly cautious , when you are forgetting the simple fact that he is now WDC.
A Weak F1 champion would have been a WDC that won because he was Gifted points......

[deMuRe]

Schumi is the greatist all time. Lewis doesnt compare, and I dont think he will. Next year will be the year for him to prove he is a great. Most drivers who become champions find it hard to become 2 times champions (kimi is a recent example) my top 5 list of greats are:

1.M Schumacher (unquestionable)
2.A Senna (maybe could of achieved more but was cut short )
3.A Prost (he proved his worth with every team he joined)
4.F Alonso (I tip him for a 3rd)
5.JM Fangio (dont know much about him but I know he was a legend of his time)

Hill, Villeneurve, Hakkinan & Kimi were weak champions tbh. they had a good car but wernt anything special

I agree with this totally.

Look what happened to HIll and JV when they tried to do it without an Adrian Newey car, they were nowhere.

I still have dreams of Schumacher coming out of retirement and driving an Adrian Newey designed car one day, would be nice to see him lap everyone 15 times in a race

[McLaren Fan]

Indeed, and then his car would brake down before on the last lap or something. Without a good mechanical engineer to keep Newey's artistic flare in check, he's nowhere. Have you seen McLaren's reliability record from 1998 to 2006?

[deMuRe]

Indeed, and then his car would brake down before on the last lap or something. Without a good mechanical engineer to keep Newey's artistic flare in check, he's nowhere. Have you seen McLaren's reliability record from 1998 to 2006?

I thought Newey's heart wasn't in it after the failed Jaguar move, so I wouldn't judge his work after this point.

Shame is these days one man can't make the difference in an F1 team and even someone like Newey can't shine unless he's part of an R & D juggernaught.

I always thought that's why he worked so well at Williams, Patrick would keep his ideas reliable...

[McLaren Fan]

Indeed, and then his car would brake down before on the last lap or something. Without a good mechanical engineer to keep Newey's artistic flare in check, he's nowhere. Have you seen McLaren's reliability record from 1998 to 2006?

I thought Newey's heart wasn't in it after the failed Jaguar move, so I wouldn't judge his work after this point.

Shame is these days one man can't make the difference in an F1 team and even someone like Newey can't shine unless he's part of an R & D juggernaught.

I always thought that's why he worked so well at Williams, Patrick would keep his ideas reliable...

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Patrick Head would always remind him that the car has to finish Grands Prix as opposed to just being the fastest. At McLaren, though, he was basically given free reign to do whatever he wanted, so his cars were beautiful looking pieces of machinery, but were very delicate. Perhaps his finest two cars he designed for McLaren were the MP4/13, which was a very cunning piece of equipment, and the MP4/14. The latter was simply the stuff of genius. It looked a little like the previous season's car, but it was completely different under the bodywork and the rear-suspension was fantastic. The problems were, though, that all of this stuff was delicate and it took two or three times to make setup changes and repair.

[stonemonkey]

Weakest, no, youngest, yes.

[FJuan]

My dad usually thinks Keke Rosberg was the weakest Champion in that season "nobody wanted to win" in 1982 when he won just the solitary race at Dijon. Gilles might have done it that year had tragedy not struck at Zolder, the Ferrari was the best car by miles that year.

The least amount of wins... could be a winner...