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[racechick]

Yep its a real pain in the arse that people are asking for a non biased professional body to run the sport

[bud]

darwins a long time Schumacher/Ferrari fan and is blind to see any favouritism given by the governing body towards their main money making team.

demure sees it and he doesnt have a phd like darwin

[darwin dali]

darwins a long time Schumacher/Ferrari fan and is blind to see any favouritism given by the governing body towards their main money making team.

demure sees it and he doesnt have a phd like darwin

MS fan, correct. Longtime, correct - unlike some bandwagon jumpers, I've been with him from the beginning. Ferrari, nope. Not a team supporter - closest I'd come is a vote of confidence for BMW Sauber, out of loyalty to Peter Sauber (I grew up about 7 miles from Hinwil).

[texasmr2]

I think its time now for Ferrari to apologise in public. If Ferrari had not passed the data to McL in the first place this situation could not have happened. An apology from Jean Todt would be appropriate since it was his failier in security that caused the problem.

Why should Ferrari make a public apology that's just ludricous ! It was a trusted HIGH LEVEL employee who had full access to confidential material that passed it on to McLaren not the whole Ferrari team!

[bud]

I think its time now for Ferrari to apologise in public. If Ferrari had not passed the data to McL in the first place this situation could not have happened. An apology from Jean Todt would be appropriate since it was his failier in security that caused the problem.

Why should Ferrari make a public apology that's just ludricous ! It was a trusted HIGH LEVEL employee who had full access to confidential material that passed it on to McLaren not the whole Ferrari team!

well the WHOLE McLaren team is being judged because of the actions of one man

[darwin dali]

Geez bud! How much more crap do you have in your quiver to shoot off?
How many people at McLaren have been involved? One?

[bud]

Geez bud! How much more crap do you have in your quiver to shoot off?
How many people at McLaren have been involved? One?

Darwin go have a cawfee!! regardless if you throw in Pedro or Fernando or one or two other engineers the fact is Tex's statement is true, McLarens being judged as a whole by everyone as if getting Ferrari info were apart of their annual general meeting.
so if McLaren as a whole is guilty then Stepney can represent Ferrari as a whole so in that case Ferrari willingly gave away its own technical information.

I mean everyone thinks Ron and why not throw in Norbert all had a part to play in this right?

[darwin dali]

You just don't get it, do you? Or you don't WANT to get it. The difference between what rogue employee Stepney did compared to what a whole bunch of McLaren employees (up to the top echelons) did or didn't do, but should have. But don't take it from me - read up on it in McLaren's statement

[bud]

you dont get it! if this was actively a McLaren racing affair EVERYONE would be in on it!

[Mikep99]

You just don't get it, do you? Or you don't WANT to get it. The difference between what rogue employee Stepney did compared to what a whole bunch of McLaren employees (up to the top echelons) did or didn't do, but should have. But don't take it from me - read up on it in McLaren's statement

DD I get it.
But your just going round in circles talking to some people.

Just like these *uckin birds. Just around and around we go never getting to CommonScentsVille

[bud]

common scent ville huh
maybe take a shower and you will have some sense with some fresh air.

and again Mike look your attacking my sig now bloody keyboard warrior huh

[bolow]

McLaren could say anything just to stop the witch hurt from Mad max. McLaren could even said Mad max isn't witch hurting them just to stop his witch hurt campaign against them. I like to see Renault apologying for 14 of there employee having McLaren intellectual Properties and Renault, getting a $100 million fine, but Mad Max isn't witch hurting Renault and Renualt doesn't have a black driver.

[Mikep99]

common scent ville huh
maybe take a shower and you will have some sense with some fresh air.

and again Mike look your attacking my sig now bloody keyboard warrior huh

its a compliment mate I like it. But I did twist it around to make a point.

I remember you bagin my sig a while ago. But I must admit it was stupid.

[texasmr2]

What did you expect from a siggy pic like that bud, really ? Look you have your way of looking at thing's and so does everyone else, why does it constantly have to turn into a battle? Look you and the rest of the McLaren camp think your right and the same goes for all the other camp's, right?

The two camp's will never see eye too eye but it would be nice to see every once in awhile a " let's just agree that we disagree' without turning every dis-agreement thread into a 6pg battle of wit's?

Hey look I love both McLaren and Ferrari but but geez how much whining and crying do we have to put up with from the McLaren camp? Do we need to take a thread/post survey of who complain's the most between the two camp's, NO it's obvious.

Sorry to rant but I'm F'ing fed-up, should I take a timeout and go to my corner or I'm I making sense to anyone WITHOUT offending anyone?

[bud]

tex i was talking to DD there about the wording "McLaren" at fault or "rouge employees"
no whining at all!
and DD didnt reply to my last post so guess we saw eye to eye there huh.

Mike came in and straight away went personal on me instead of the topic at hand i was pointing out his hypocricy and once again showing that its all he does, starts conflicts and gets off on it and bringing down people on a personal level! no denying i get personal at times but i need to be angry for me to do that. unlike some.