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By BrianH
#98926
Hi Guys,
I think that forcing the teams to use tires that are way too hard and way to soft is just plain stupid. I like most of the changes for F1 this year, but I hate the idea of purposely making the teams use crappy tires. The series is plenty challenging enough without having to drive on less than optimal tires. Bring a variety of tires that are optimal, some a little harder, some a little softer, and let the teams choose what they will run. All the other changes were for the purpose of promoting close racing, which makes car control VITAL! If you want to see good, close, CLEAN racing, let the drivers use the tires they are most comfortable with. Otherwise, the Vettel/Kubica incident will become the norm, and F1 will become the NASCAR of open wheel racing.
Just my two cents worth.
Cheers! :D
BrianH
#98931
Hi Guys,
I think that forcing the teams to use tires that are way too hard and way to soft is just plain stupid. I like most of the changes for F1 this year, but I hate the idea of purposely making the teams use crappy tires. The series is plenty challenging enough without having to drive on less than optimal tires. Bring a variety of tires that are optimal, some a little harder, some a little softer, and let the teams choose what they will run. All the other changes were for the purpose of promoting close racing, which makes car control VITAL! If you want to see good, close, CLEAN racing, let the drivers use the tires they are most comfortable with. Otherwise, the Vettel/Kubica incident will become the norm, and F1 will become the NASCAR of open wheel racing.
Just my two cents worth.
Cheers! :D
BrianH

Only bringing two compounds saves costs. Forcing them to race both keeps racing close.
#98939
Hi Guys,
...and F1 will become the NASCAR of open wheel racing.


NEVAR

anyway, i think it throws another tactical element to the races. Since kubica had the better tyre towards the end, it allowed him to close up on vettel, which made it very exciting. I wouldn't go as far as saying the tyres are going to cause pileups frequently, the drivers are still getting used to racing with slicks again. Some are coping better than others.
Last edited by tombo on 29 Mar 09, 15:47, edited 1 time in total.
#98942
Only bringing two compounds saves costs. Forcing them to race both keeps racing close.


They could bring two compounds that are more suited to the track.


They do.
#98946
It's not as bad as the no tire change rule of 06.

That was a fiasco.
#98948
I like the current rules. It fits in with the sport cutting some of its costs and means tactics become more important.
#98949
I like the current rules. It fits in with the sport cutting some of its costs and means tactics become more important.

Agreed, these are pretty good rules. There's plenty of stupid ones to get wound up over.
#98950
The thing is the new tyre rules increases unpredictability and racing. While it is possible that more accidents will occur, at least they will be from a result of a driver attempting to pass.
#98954
Long ago the race was more pure. Today rules are made to shake things up, because they aren't shaking themselves up naturally. All they care about is increasing the specatacle, which translates into $$ for Bernie. This is at the expense of pure sport, which they obviously don't care about. I don't really mind the current rules but OTOH I wouldn't mind them keeping their fingers off the track. In a way they are causing artificial change to the outcome of the championship.
#98955
Only bringing two compounds saves costs. Forcing them to race both keeps racing close.


They could bring two compounds that are more suited to the track.


Well, at least somebody got my point. :clap: A tire that is only good for 2 or 3 laps is NOT suited to the track. :rolleyes: Why not make them drive with one eye closed for a stint as well? We'd probably get the same results... :wink:

Cheers! :drink:

BrianH
#98975
Even if they got to use the two closest compounds, there would still be potential issues - for example today, teams would still have had to use either the super soft tyre that went off quickly, or the hard tyre that struggled to build up and maintain heat. Sure, the problems would be smaller, but they would still remain. i don't really mind the ruling too much anyway, it gives an interesting new element to driver skill/tyre management and the engineering of the cars. The tyres didn't cause Kubica and Vettel to crash on their own...
#99002
Hi Guys,
The series is plenty challenging enough without having to drive on less than optimal tires.


I live in the US where F1 isn't at all popular and nobody really understands it at all, and plenty of my coworkers are huge NASCAR fans, so we often spar about racing. One notion they have of F1 is that the drivers don't really do anything, that the cars do everything for them and the drivers basically just have to sit out the race looking pretty. This is of course the exact opposite of the truth. F1 drivers are arguably the best in the world and have to be to do what they do every race weekend, and the ability to do it on "less than optimal tires" just gives them one more way of showcasing their driving skill.
#99024
The new tire rule is dangerous and has no place in any type of motor sports racing.
As far as costs go, shipping two tires anywhere is the same regardless if they are soft or hard or anything in between.
It is completely disrespectful to all the teams engineering groups to have to deal with "political engineering tampering) by the FIA or anyone else just to gain ratings; which have not ever been proved.
The teams should present their requirements to the tire manufacture (s) and let then have at it.
Deliver your best shot to the engineers before season opener and let them design to the tire.
One other thing, I give great props to Bridgestone for their devotion and quality of product support to F1 but, you need two manufacturers to do it right.
This sparks competition and a better quality product.
FIA, do not degrade the pinnacle of motor sport into a ratings carnival.
F1 is about automotive technology at it's best; not "automotive technology compromised for "potential" ratings.
The Aussy GP showed one thing, that teams can loose cars and hurt drivers because of some stupid tire rule that does not cut costs. :banghead:
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