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[McLaren Fan]

I think there's a bit of a difference between changing the design of the monocoque etc. and just making the suspension a little more tough.

[Jamie]

Simple as. If a guy on the road smashes into your car like that your going to be pretty P-I-S-S-E-D huh? So there are no excuses? He is meant to be a professional and nothing 'BUT' so while you watch it over and over again he totally trashed Vettel's race, which in my books is unfair. But I guarantee if it were the other way round you would be slating Vettel off?

[Jensonb]

Then again we are talking about two cars (Vettel/Kubica) losing its downforce, no grips, traveling into a turn at a high speed, both veered off into the grass then the wall. Isn't the car designed to "shatter" into pieces on an impact??

Not as violently as that, especially given the relatively low speed - yes, a fast accident in the widest context, but by no means even remotely "fast" for an F1 car.

Here's the rest of the quote to answer your questions.


"When a race car hit a wall at a high speed, 99% of these drivers will walk away, when a street car hit a wall at a high speed, 99% of these drivers are dead. The reason why on an impact, the point of impact, the inertia energy will travel through the body of the car which is mostly either metal or carbon and the energy of the impact will settle on the softest part of the car, its usually the head and body. But on an F1 or Indy car, with its pointy nose, think of it as a pyramid, the top is the nose and the bottom is the rear. When the top is in a impact, the pieces are designed to break away from the car so it can carry the impact energy away from the center of the pyramid and to avoid the inside of the pyramid."

Is this the first time anyone ever seen an F1 car shatter when it hits a WALL??

Again, we are speaking relatively here. The car didn't just break up on impact, the wheels went flying with the suspension in bits, whilst the rest of the car littered the track. It's not that serious at the moment, but we don't need it to be happening in the future. littering the track like that is going to become a problem, as is the wheels detaching.

[Jamie]

Driving the damaged car? Yeah I totally agree with you there...but oh my he shouldn't be taken to in the same way as Kubica? He frikin prove like an utter and complete twat I must say. To say he was a contender? He should of drove more 'Professionally'

[bmwpower]

We need to stop starting threads on the same subject.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5629

sorted

Thank You

[Jensonb]

but oh my he shouldn't be taken to in the same way as Kubica? He frikin prove like an utter and complete twat I must say. To say he was a contender? He should of drove more 'Professionally'

Pardon me?

[EwanM]

I don't think Vettel deserved a penalty. It was a racing accident, just like Barrichello at the start or when he tagged Raikkonen. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with their scrap!

[Jensonb]

I don't think Vettel deserved a penalty. It was a racing accident, just like Barrichello at the start or when he tagged Raikkonen. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with their scrap!

Once again:

Vettel was penalised for circulating illegally, not for hitting Kubica.

[Denthúl]

I don't think Vettel deserved a penalty. It was a racing accident, just like Barrichello at the start or when he tagged Raikkonen. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with their scrap!

Vettel was penalised for driving around for two laps on only three wheels, creating a massive safety issue.

[EwanM]

I don't think Vettel deserved a penalty. It was a racing accident, just like Barrichello at the start or when he tagged Raikkonen. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with their scrap!

Vettel was penalised for driving around for two laps on only three wheels, creating a massive safety issue.

Ah right, that explains it. Yes that was stupid

[Gert]

What a moron! He could have waited another lap and take SV on a straight - SV's supersoft tires were already shot.
And then the fashion RK did try to overtake - almost like DC in his best or worst days. And not leaving any room for SV whatsoever

So how do you explain Vettel apologising to his team for having drive into Kubica & throwing away a guarenteed 3rd in the process?

[Jamie]

non of us know Vettel so he could be planning big com back to right of Kubica next week?, Vettel drove like a pro! even MB said i don't know what the hell he was doing but he was was NOT doing it right....... ust like the color of money (ITV) they all get greedy

[EwanM]

What... the... hell...

[Jamie]

RK got greedy and was impatient therefore resulting in a loss for both. Next race should be a little more exciting and maybe 'fair' lets hope RK won't be behind JB, RB, FM, RK or LH

[MAD MAX]

Vettel & Kubica receive 10 place grid penaltys at Sepang...

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=45387

EXCELLENT !!!!!!!!!