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[f1usa]

This wasn't a probelm for most before KERS

But yeah, some drivers are really tall. I mean, Sutil and Kubica are prime examples. Whilst Massa and Heidfeld top the small list.
But wait, the minuim weight for the cars is there so teams don't make the cars extremely light. Can't they make the cars a tad lighter to accomdate for heavier drivers, in some sort of way. Probably wrong, but just a thought.

Take the average weight of all drivers and add ballast accordingly for a standard weight of driver in car. A compromise would be fair for all teams and drivers, unless you want anorexic F1 drivers.

[SarahB62]

by f1ea on 31 Jan 09, 19:40

SarahB62 wrote:
Great response Darwin

Yup. Pretty accurate. Another more related example would be Moto GP though...
having such a dynamic weight distribution improves performance in situations like corners, braking and accel; by the driver throwing his weight as needed. But as DD says, F1 drivers can't move too much inside the cockpit, so there is not much... dynamicity that's why ballast placement is more relevant in F1

DD is right on movement in cockpit. On the basis of dynamicity, should it be a set weight for each driver regardless of height and weight? Would the teams be able to determine the placement of the inert ballast to compensate for the "lighter" drivers or would that mean a new regulation vis a vis driver weight ratio to overall car weight being set?

[Rivelution]

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[Hanwombat]

by Rivelution on 31 Jan 09, 06:26

The last thing I want to see are F1 drivers eating like wrestlers and starve themselves before races. I dont think a minimum weight rule is the way to go, because its just as unfair to punish the lighter drivers for being light.

I think the way to fix this is to have an equal weight in every cockpit. Lets just say the FIA issued a regulation stating that there is to be 165 lbs in the drivers cockpit. So if a driver weighed 125 lbs, 153 lbs, etc .etc. you just add weights in the car (like making the seat heavier, or something) to match 165 lbs.


Do you guys catch my drift, or am I smoking too much pot?

Totally agree that F1 drivers should not be put in a position where they have to either live on McDonalds or lettuce.

I hear what you are saying about equalising the drivers cockpit weight ... in horse racing/3 day eventing, lead weights are added to saddlepads to equalise the weight acoss the field. However, it is more difficult to carry inert weight than carry a rider who hits the mark. Not being expert in anyway I would think that the lighter drivers would be disadvantaged by having to have inert weight added to the cockpit area.

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I don't think you can compare a moving horse-rider combo with a moving F1 car whose driver is securely strapped into his seat and doesn't move around much. The few moving body parts like head or arms while cornering are comparable in weight between drivers. In other words, an F1 driver is basically as inert a weight as additional weight that was put in the seat (or wherever) to make weight. And certainly not nearly as dynamic as a horse rider.

I'm figuring out the issue of inert weight and why it would hurt the lighter drivers. Its weight that would go directly under them or in their specific area, not to be confused with ballast that can go anywhere to get the perfect set-up. The reason Kubica lost the weight was so they could ad it back at different parts of the car for set up... So I'm a little confused?

A horse rider is constantly moving around, up and down, forward and back, etc., to help the horse with the weight distribution. The lighter riders who have to pack lead weights to make weight lose that capability to a certain degree because those lead weights are stationary and not moving dynamically. An F1 driver does not do this and is hence an inert weight.

ah yes

[texasmr2]

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tex

[darwin dali]

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Stoner

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tex

So no references to alcohol drinking anymore? It's illegal in many countries and in most it's illegal up to a certain age of the 'user'. Also, pot is legal in some countries...

[McLaren Fan]

So are images of loosely-clad women etc. deemed family material, then?

[texasmr2]

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tex

So no references to alcohol drinking anymore? It's illegal in many countries and in most it's illegal up to a certain age of the 'user'. Also, pot is legal in some countries...

Why are you preaching to the quire thinking I do not know everything you mentioned? I'm actually not as ignorant as you percieve me to be so this is just less weight and blame off my shoulders, thanks!

[darwin dali]

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Stoner

Hey guys and gals forumula1.com does not support or promote the use of illegal substances. I know you two are just having fun yet may I ask that we refrain from such discussions or inuendo's? Remember we are a family forum ok .

tex

So no references to alcohol drinking anymore? It's illegal in many countries and in most it's illegal up to a certain age of the 'user'. Also, pot is legal in some countries...

Why are you preaching to the quire thinking I do not know everything you mentioned? I'm actually not as ignorant as you percieve me to be so this is just less weight and blame off my shoulders, thanks!

Just wanted to put your comment in perspective

[darwin dali]

So are images of loosely-clad women etc. deemed family material, then?

[Jabberwocky]

I am sure that even adding weights to the cockpit would not be a disadvantage for the lighter driver. I am sure that putting the weight by there ankles/under there bum would not become common practise to move the weight around

[McLaren Fan]

So are images of loosely-clad women etc. deemed family material, then?

It may be funny too, but there was a serious reason for the matter being raised.

[Rivelution]

Sorry but I just wanted to say that I'm not a stoner. Do I smoke mj? Yeah every now and then but I dont smoke cigarrettes, or drink alcohol.

[texasmr2]

Sorry but I just wanted to say that I'm not a stoner. Do I smoke mj? Yeah every now and then but I dont smoke cigarrettes, or drink alcohol.

No big deal man the only reason I said anything was because I did not view it as being in the best interest of the forum. That was simply my observation and nothing more.

[SarahB62]

Sorry Tex - no offence intended - hope you are enjoying your day off