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Ecclestone: No more revenue for teams

By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, January 20th 2009, 08:06 GMT

Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone has told teams there is little chance of them securing more revenue from him over the next few years - as he warned them they are actually likely to get less income.

The Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) has made no secret of the fact that it wants Ecclestone to change the way grand prix racing's commercial income is split with the teams.

When it is time for teams to renegotiate the contracts from 2012 onwards, they want a much bigger share than the 50 percent share of profits that they get at the moment.

However, Ecclestone believes that on the back of dramatic cost cuts in the sport there is little need for the teams to get more - as he accused them of not treating talks with him seriously enough.

"We don't need to pay more. We've got to give them less," Ecclestone told the Financial Times. "In what I call the good old days, all we had to do was have a chat with the people who had all the money... but now they come along and they've got lawyers and masseurs and they can never agree on anything."

He added: "They could ask for more money but they won't get it."

[Denthúl]

From autosport.com:

Ecclestone: No more revenue for teams

By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, January 20th 2009, 08:06 GMT

Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone has told teams there is little chance of them securing more revenue from him over the next few years - as he warned them they are actually likely to get less income.

The Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) has made no secret of the fact that it wants Ecclestone to change the way grand prix racing's commercial income is split with the teams.

When it is time for teams to renegotiate the contracts from 2012 onwards, they want a much bigger share than the 50 percent share of profits that they get at the moment.

However, Ecclestone believes that on the back of dramatic cost cuts in the sport there is little need for the teams to get more - as he accused them of not treating talks with him seriously enough.

"We don't need to pay more. We've got to give them less," Ecclestone told the Financial Times. "In what I call the good old days, all we had to do was have a chat with the people who had all the money... but now they come along and they've got lawyers and masseurs and they can never agree on anything."

He added: "They could ask for more money but they won't get it."

I've never wished death on anyone, but I wish Bernie would croak :/

[8-ball]

From autosport.com:

Ecclestone: No more revenue for teams

By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, January 20th 2009, 08:06 GMT

Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone has told teams there is little chance of them securing more revenue from him over the next few years - as he warned them they are actually likely to get less income.

The Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) has made no secret of the fact that it wants Ecclestone to change the way grand prix racing's commercial income is split with the teams.

When it is time for teams to renegotiate the contracts from 2012 onwards, they want a much bigger share than the 50 percent share of profits that they get at the moment.

However, Ecclestone believes that on the back of dramatic cost cuts in the sport there is little need for the teams to get more - as he accused them of not treating talks with him seriously enough.

"We don't need to pay more. We've got to give them less," Ecclestone told the Financial Times. "In what I call the good old days, all we had to do was have a chat with the people who had all the money... but now they come along and they've got lawyers and masseurs and they can never agree on anything."

He added: "They could ask for more money but they won't get it."

I've never wished death on anyone, but I wish Bernie would croak :/

Bernie is a

[EwanM]

Hey but the man's a genius!

[EwanM]

Bernie blasts Mosley and the FIA
Wednesday 21st January 2009

Bernie Ecclestone has launched a scathing attack on Max Mosley and the FIA, suggesting that troubles in Mosley's private life have affected his decision-making.


In response to the current economic crisis, the FIA last month announced a host of measures aimed at cutting costs in the sport, including the banning of in-season testing and standardising engine specifications.


Ecclestone believes that Mosley and the FIA should not have any say in the implementing of such regulations, as they affect the commercial side of the sport, an area the FIA are not allowed to involve themselves in as a result of a ruling by the European Commission in 2001.


"The sporting regulations basically are what generate the income and we run the commercial business," Ecclestone told the Daily Express.


"The FIA should just be the police looking at the rules. The teams and us should be writing the technical and sporting regulations," he added.


The F1 supremo's relations with Mosley and the FIA have been strained of late, with the fallout from Mosley's recent umpalumpa scandal and the lack of support Ecclestone received for his proposed medals plan being contentious issues.


When Ecclestone first mooted the idea of introducing a system that would give medals to race winners so that the champion would be the driver who won the most races, the FIA suggested that such a plan required market research and that the public should have their say, a suggestion dismissed by the 78-year-old.


"We don't want to ask the public what they think because, if we do we would have to ask the public about almost every little thing that is decided on."


In the wake of Mosley's umpalumpa scandal, Ecclestone claims he was under increasing pressure to get Mosley to leave his post with the FIA, a move he called for.


"I had so much pressure from manufacturers and sponsors saying you must convince him to leave."


In the midst of the personal storm, Mosley and the FIA unexpectedly announced the creation of a new F2 feeder series, which would rival Ecclestone's GP2 series, a move that did not sit well with the Briton.


"It was all done for the wrong reasons. He did this when he had a problem with his private life," claims Ecclestone.


If the FIA were in any doubt as to where they stood with the F1 boss, a few parting words from Ecclestone should clarify matters, "without us there wouldn't be a FIA."
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3 ... 93,00.html
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Cheers Bernie good to see you really care about the fans. This will be the last time I fill in one of your damn questionaires if you won't even consider them.

[bud]

Typical Euro bullpoo

like a bunch of petty back stabbing bitches these "men" are that rule F1

[8-ball]

bud is right imo as we here have a huge racing fanbase but a much smaller fanbase of what I term as true racing fans who just like and respect racing of anykind. It is really no different than the UK based racing fans thinking NASCAR is boring and a waste of time right? This is why I include myself in the penultimate racing fan club because if it's got 2 or 4-wheel's I will and have watched it and I support it.

So what are you and bud saying? You don't think that F1 should be in North America? Its way to big a market for F1 to just leave alone. Manufacturers can raise profile no matter how few people take an interest. If it is done right (maybe a street race in Vegas could be revisited) then F1 may develop a fan base there

[f1maniac95]

If Bernie gives them less money then I think they will finally pull out and start their own series.

[bud]

bud is right imo as we here have a huge racing fanbase but a much smaller fanbase of what I term as true racing fans who just like and respect racing of anykind. It is really no different than the UK based racing fans thinking NASCAR is boring and a waste of time right? This is why I include myself in the penultimate racing fan club because if it's got 2 or 4-wheel's I will and have watched it and I support it.

So what are you and bud saying? You don't think that F1 should be in North America? Its way to big a market for F1 to just leave alone. Manufacturers can raise profile no matter how few people take an interest. If it is done right (maybe a street race in Vegas could be revisited) then F1 may develop a fan base there

F1 has no American presence, marketing it to the Patriotic Americans is tough.

[Rivelution]

i would say thet are pretty patriotic when it comes to cars actually. The bail out has little to do with favouritism.
Racing is something they are also patriotic about. They tend to follow their own form of racing over the snobby Euro trash that is F1

As funny as you made that sound, thats actually very true. If you look at all the racing series' that were/are extremely popular in the USA, they all are american based i.e. CART/Champ Car, Nascar, and NHRA drag racing.

[texasmr2]

bud is right imo as we here have a huge racing fanbase but a much smaller fanbase of what I term as true racing fans who just like and respect racing of anykind. It is really no different than the UK based racing fans thinking NASCAR is boring and a waste of time right? This is why I include myself in the penultimate racing fan club because if it's got 2 or 4-wheel's I will and have watched it and I support it.

So what are you and bud saying? You don't think that F1 should be in North America? Its way to big a market for F1 to just leave alone. Manufacturers can raise profile no matter how few people take an interest. If it is done right (maybe a street race in Vegas could be revisited) then F1 may develop a fan base there

Please read my post again because it is apparent you missed the point trying to be made, I do it all the time so no biggy .