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[12doorAnglia]

a lot of what he said makes good sense, on the testing i would go further and lose the dedicated test teams. back to old school and test at the race meet in more free practice sessions, and lose all the silly aero bits that cost millions to develop, just front and rear wing

[FerrariFan63]

a lot of what he said makes good sense, on the testing i would go further and lose the dedicated test teams. back to old school and test at the race meet in more free practice sessions, and lose all the silly aero bits that cost millions to develop, just front and rear wing

But surely nowdays the entire car is aero sensitive. Nose, sidepods, etc. So even if the winglets etc. disappear there is still a lot of aero work to do.

[Jabberwocky]

In the wake of Honda leaving F1 Brundle has an 8 point plan to keep F1 thrilling audiences for the future. I cant be botherted to type up all hi reasoning but here are his 8 ideas. This is from todays Sunday Times.

1. Knock 2000 revs off the engine and allow the teams until eve of first race to reoptimise only the ancillaries and electronics. Then they must last 4 races.why knock 2000 revs off let them rev to whatever as long as it lasts 4 races
2. Teams to do K3000 testing a year without spectators. ban testing outsideof fri and sat of a GP weekend.not sure on this, I think a ban on all testing apart from on a friday of a gp is good. but why limit the milage? might get more drivers getting a seat in an f1 car
3. At end of first race and mnid season all cars made available for clo9se insepection by other teams.(To keep competition close and dissuade huge spending on wind tunnels and computers) I am sure the teams have a lot of photographers doing this for the anyway
4. Reduce dry tyres from 14 sets to 8 sets per weekend. why reduce the amount of tyres that means the cars will run less
5. Share common consumables and components. I am sure Shell and Mobile 1
6. Limit number of t6eam personel at race track to, say 50. Limit pitstops to 8 crew.how does this increase the spectical
7. Consider postpning KERS.How aout limiing the amount of fuel a driver can use during the race? but unrestrict kers
8. Wasnt sure what his last point was. To do with the teams becoming more financially attractive and more money flowing back to the teams,to grassroots and junior levels.

What do you reckon to his ideas.

[Denthúl]

In the wake of Honda leaving F1 Brundle has an 8 point plan to keep F1 thrilling audiences for the future. I cant be botherted to type up all hi reasoning but here are his 8 ideas. This is from todays Sunday Times.

1. Knock 2000 revs off the engine and allow the teams until eve of first race to reoptimise only the ancillaries and electronics. Then they must last 4 races.why knock 2000 revs off let them rev to whatever as long as it lasts 4 races
2. Teams to do K3000 testing a year without spectators. ban testing outsideof fri and sat of a GP weekend.not sure on this, I think a ban on all testing apart from on a friday of a gp is good. but why limit the milage? might get more drivers getting a seat in an f1 car
3. At end of first race and mnid season all cars made available for clo9se insepection by other teams.(To keep competition close and dissuade huge spending on wind tunnels and computers) I am sure the teams have a lot of photographers doing this for the anyway
4. Reduce dry tyres from 14 sets to 8 sets per weekend. why reduce the amount of tyres that means the cars will run less
5. Share common consumables and components. I am sure Shell and Mobile 1
6. Limit number of t6eam personel at race track to, say 50. Limit pitstops to 8 crew.how does this increase the spectical
7. Consider postpning KERS.How aout limiing the amount of fuel a driver can use during the race? but unrestrict kers
8. Wasnt sure what his last point was. To do with the teams becoming more financially attractive and more money flowing back to the teams,to grassroots and junior levels.

What do you reckon to his ideas.

1 - Because higher revs tend to make it harder for manufacturers to make engines as reliable and long-lasting as they are at present. I seem to remember that, before the 19,000RPM limit came in, Mercedes engines blew up quite often.

2 - Because you need winter to do some testing of the new car, I guess.

3 - Probably. I'm sure that it came up during Spygate, actually.

4 - Tyres cost money. As do wheel nuts - £800 per (single-use) nut. Less tyres means less changes, which means cheaper.

5 - That could work, but I think that fuel is the least expensive of the different things. Remember, the fuel companies do the research, not the teams.

6 - It's not all about spectacle - Formula One needs to be affordable as well as entertaining.

7 - Could work.


Point eight was about giving teams more than their 25% share of revenue. In all honesty, I don't think this is the best thing. What I do think would help is reducing the amount that new teams have to pay to get in to the sport, and taking away the rule where all the other teams have to agree to let them in. That one's ridiculous.

[cornishrobb]

All that's on this thread sounds good and what an F1 team should be doing and more but do the teams actually look or read THIS forum?

Do we just dream the teams will do these things? Have we any influence over them? Are they to rich & nose in the air to take any notice of Joe Public?

As being outside, can we see more than they can? Do they not think logically? They have Logistics on there trucks!!!

I like Brundle's Ideas and I think they would work, do they though?

I'll buy Honda and try it all out! I have enough for that, but what's the annul running cost? or do sponsors cover all that, all I gotta do is purchase Honda at the right price, yes?

Then take notice of YOU lot.

[Jabberwocky]

I wounder if F1 teams do prowl around F1 sites, you never know, an off handed comment about something might fire something up that makes it all work better. all it takes is a seed to make a tree.

[EwanM]

I wounder if F1 teams do prowl around F1 sites, you never know, an off handed comment about something might fire something up that makes it all work better. all it takes is a seed to make a tree.

hahaha I bloody hope not. Fisichella will be wondering why he's up for FAIL of the year
Thank god the Lewis Dissenters thread is closed

Mind you Hamilton bashing has moved down the list of priorities.
He's world champion and he gets reprieve until March

[Denthúl]

All that's on this thread sounds good and what an F1 team should be doing and more but do the teams actually look or read THIS forum?

Do we just dream the teams will do these things? Have we any influence over them? Are they to rich & nose in the air to take any notice of Joe Public?

As being outside, can we see more than they can? Do they not think logically? They have Logistics on there trucks!!!

I like Brundle's Ideas and I think they would work, do they though?

I'll buy Honda and try it all out! I have enough for that, but what's the annul running cost? or do sponsors cover all that, all I gotta do is purchase Honda at the right price, yes?

Then take notice of YOU lot.

Buy Honda and then pay all of the team's bills. That's your £1 purchase price plus at least £50m per year. Not exactly that cheap, unless you get everybody (including drivers) on minimum wage. In fact, that would probably be what brought your costs down closer to £50m in the first place.

Maybe we should all write/sign an open letter to FOTA? Just a thought.

[cornishrobb]

mmmm 50mill!!! annual? that'll be mi interest being used up and a little of mi earnings

at least I'll keep in British!!

There is the sponcership money? That'll help, won't it?

I'll have to re-invest with the Arabs again bler bler never wanted to do that again
if I found a partner it would be more viable, only a small partner,
mind you, there must be some dead wood in the team/organization?
trim it down a bit I could afford it then, on my own, providing they never go below 6th for a few years

me thinks I'll go visit them

wish me luck

[headless]

I like the idea of allowing the cars to be looked over by other teams.

I dont

[headless]

But I see the point

[Denthúl]

mmmm 50mill!!! annual? that'll be mi interest being used up and a little of mi earnings

at least I'll keep in British!!

There is the sponcership money? That'll help, won't it?

I'll have to re-invest with the Arabs again bler bler never wanted to do that again
if I found a partner it would be more viable, only a small partner,
mind you, there must be some dead wood in the team/organization?
trim it down a bit I could afford it then, on my own, providing they never go below 6th for a few years

me thinks I'll go visit them

wish me luck

There are still companies that are thriving in the current financial climate. There are also a lot of very rich people. Combine these two and you might be able to get Honda for a pound. You'd have to be very lucky, though.

[Jabberwocky]

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