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[deMuRe]

He is capable of doing it but Lewis is the number one driver there no matter what Ron Dennis says to the press

Another Coulthard-Hakkinen esque situation...

When I read the thread title my first thought was DC saying so many times, "This is my year".

Agree with 8-Ball, Kovi will be allowed to go as fast as possible, without upsetting Hamilton...

Hamilton will not react as Alonso did to a challenge from within the team, he will just be more determined to be faster. Which will be good for the team all round. Kovi should go better next year , the stickier tyres will suit him better so they should be closer.

Any opportunity to have a stab at Alonso hey? Would love to see Hamilton's reaction if he went to Ferrari, was promised number 1 status in the team as reigning world Champion, only to have an Italian join the team with the full blessing of the team principal. Something tells me Hamilton wouldn't take it too well and some of his comments under pressure during 2008 lend me to believe he'll be no different to Alonso...

Point1
Have a stab at Alonso?? How so??
I said "Hamilton will not react as Alonso did to a challenge from within the team" How is that having a stab at Alonso? It is saying their reactions would be differtent. Are you suggesting Alonso's reaction was innappropriate? Not good having thoughts like that about a guy you purport to support

Point2
In the unlikely event that Hamilton ended up at Ferrari he would expect his teammate to have the full blessing of the team principal whether he be Italian or otherwise! Damn funny team who took on a driver the team principal wasnt too bothered about

Point 3
Lewis may make unwise or naeive comments on the spur of the moment but his confidence in his own ability would not allow a team mate trouble his head.

Point 1 - It was generally perceived in the English press, ie, Autosport, your bible, that Alonso threw all his toys out of the Pram because he wasn't getting things his own way. Little did they mention the conditions in which he entered the team or the complete 180 by Ron Dennis when Lewis joined the team.

Point 2 - Lewis has only ever had a fast car and has only driven under the warmth of the team principal's favour. He hasn't proven himself in a car that's not quick and he hasn't been treated like his name was Stanley, I'm basing my case on evidence, you are holding your Lewis Hamilton bible and making predictions.

Point 3 - You can't make these claims until it's actually happened. He started his career in a top car with the blessing of the team boss. He hasn't had to do it tough yet...

[bud]

Point 1 - It was generally perceived in the English press, ie, Autosport, your bible, that Alonso threw all his toys out of the Pram because he wasn't getting things his own way. Little did they mention the conditions in which he entered the team or the complete 180 by Ron Dennis when Lewis joined the team.

And since youve been in the UK where is it that you have found out otherwise? And where is the conditions on which Alonso entered where did you read this?

Point 2 - Lewis has only ever had a fast car and has only driven under the warmth of the team principal's favour. He hasn't proven himself in a car that's not quick and he hasn't been treated like his name was Stanley, I'm basing my case on evidence, you are holding your Lewis Hamilton bible and making predictions.

and Schumacher your demigod drove without the warmth of the people around him? and Lewis has only had 2 seasons give him a break!!!

Point 3 - You can't make these claims until it's actually happened. He started his career in a top car with the blessing of the team boss. He hasn't had to do it tough yet...

He had to tough it against a World champion team mate while his team was being witch hunted in his first season. second year he had to race stewards racists and Ferraris's to be world champion. these are all character building events that will only sadly for you haters make him stronger!

[deMuRe]

Point 1 - It was generally perceived in the English press, ie, Autosport, your bible, that Alonso threw all his toys out of the Pram because he wasn't getting things his own way. Little did they mention the conditions in which he entered the team or the complete 180 by Ron Dennis when Lewis joined the team.

And since youve been in the UK where is it that you have found out otherwise? And where is the conditions on which Alonso entered where did you read this?

Alonso wouldn't have joined a team unless he was clear number 1. Look at how he reacted when Ron Dennis started giving Lewis preferential treatment.

Point 2 - Lewis has only ever had a fast car and has only driven under the warmth of the team principal's favour. He hasn't proven himself in a car that's not quick and he hasn't been treated like his name was Stanley, I'm basing my case on evidence, you are holding your Lewis Hamilton bible and making predictions.

and Schumacher your demigod drove without the warmth of the people around him? and Lewis has only had 2 seasons give him a break!!!

Schumacher earnt his stripes, teams had no choice but to listen to him.

Point 3 - You can't make these claims until it's actually happened. He started his career in a top car with the blessing of the team boss. He hasn't had to do it tough yet...

He had to tough it against a World champion team mate while his team was being witch hunted in his first season. second year he had to race stewards racists and Ferraris's to be world champion. these are all character building events that will only sadly for you haters make him stronger![/quote]

Landing a top drive day 1 and having the team boss side with you day 1 is not what I call "having a hard time"...

[bud]

as expected lame come backs

[deMuRe]

as expected lame come backs

You brought Schumacher into it, you always do Bud.

I was having a discussion about how Hamilton would react if he was put into Alonso's position.

Maybe Alonso did throw his toys out of his pram because a rookie handed his bottom to him on a plate, that's certainly how the press told the story, but I'm not so certain...

[EwanM]

I think to close the case on 2007, both sides have to shoulder some of the blame. It appears that Alonso's perception of team leader was not that of Mclaren's.
I don't think we'll ever know the extent of what happened. The truth will come out, but it there will be 2 versions of the truth. I don't think Mclaren or Alonso can claim moral victory in either of these instances to be honest.

As for Hamilton - well he was guilty of using the British Press to his advantage in 2007, but he clearly got bit by them in the middle of last season.
Even so hopefully now he is entering his 3rd year, he'll stop giving the press soundbites to allow them to write stories such as the "bigger balls" etc etc. In terms of him in a bad car, Im positive that will happen, be it Mclaren or wherever. Then we'll see how he goes.

[bud]

as expected lame come backs

You brought Schumacher into it, you always do Bud.

I was having a discussion about how Hamilton would react if he was put into Alonso's position.

Maybe Alonso did throw his toys out of his pram because a rookie handed his bottom to him on a plate, that's certainly how the press told the story, but I'm not so certain...

i bring Schumacher into it because he is your god!

and youre not certain about Alonso because of your already existing hate of McLaren.

[deMuRe]

as expected lame come backs

You brought Schumacher into it, you always do Bud.

I was having a discussion about how Hamilton would react if he was put into Alonso's position.

Maybe Alonso did throw his toys out of his pram because a rookie handed his bottom to him on a plate, that's certainly how the press told the story, but I'm not so certain...

i bring Schumacher into it because he is your god!

and youre not certain about Alonso because of your already existing hate of McLaren.

I'm meeting him on Sunday, got paddock passes to the race of champions, I get 1 hour with Lewis, Webber and Schumi. Not going to sleep Saturday night...

[la-ultima-curva]

Schumacher earnt his stripes, teams had no choice but to listen to him.

have you ever consider that lewis has such a talent that his abilities would be wasted 'earning stripes' in a lesser car?
i'm not saying that is the case, but before lunging into your poo-pooing of lewis you should maybe wait and see if he deserves his drive as no.1 at mclaren. would another wdc title work for you? or maybe lewis would have to win 7 or more before you realise he knows a thing or two about driving a formula 1 car.

[bud]

as expected lame come backs

You brought Schumacher into it, you always do Bud.

I was having a discussion about how Hamilton would react if he was put into Alonso's position.

Maybe Alonso did throw his toys out of his pram because a rookie handed his bottom to him on a plate, that's certainly how the press told the story, but I'm not so certain...

i bring Schumacher into it because he is your god!

and youre not certain about Alonso because of your already existing hate of McLaren.

I'm meeting him on Sunday, got paddock passes to the race of champions, I get 1 hour with Lewis, Webber and Schumi. Not going to sleep Saturday night...

you lucky bar steward take alot of happy snaps now

[deMuRe]

Schumacher earnt his stripes, teams had no choice but to listen to him.

have you ever consider that lewis has such a talent that his abilities would be wasted 'earning stripes' in a lesser car?
i'm not saying that is the case, but before lunging into your poo-pooing of lewis you should maybe wait and see if he deserves his drive as no.1 at mclaren. would another wdc title work for you? or maybe lewis would have to win 7 or more before you realise he knows a thing or two about driving a formula 1 car.

I want to be sure it's Lewis and not the car before I start liking him as a driver...

Right now Lewis is just another Jaques Villuenerve or Damon Hill to me.

Oh, and winding up the McLaren supporters is too much fun at the mo ;p

[Gaz]

Schumacher earnt his stripes, teams had no choice but to listen to him.

have you ever consider that lewis has such a talent that his abilities would be wasted 'earning stripes' in a lesser car?
i'm not saying that is the case, but before lunging into your poo-pooing of lewis you should maybe wait and see if he deserves his drive as no.1 at mclaren. would another wdc title work for you? or maybe lewis would have to win 7 or more before you realise he knows a thing or two about driving a formula 1 car.

I want to be sure it's Lewis and not the car before I start liking him as a driver...

Right now Lewis is just another Jaques Villuenerve or Damon Hill to me.

Oh, and winding up the McLaren supporters is too much fun at the mo ;p

if it was the car why wasn't kovi as quick?

your argument is flawed you have failed.

[deMuRe]

Schumacher earnt his stripes, teams had no choice but to listen to him.

have you ever consider that lewis has such a talent that his abilities would be wasted 'earning stripes' in a lesser car?
i'm not saying that is the case, but before lunging into your poo-pooing of lewis you should maybe wait and see if he deserves his drive as no.1 at mclaren. would another wdc title work for you? or maybe lewis would have to win 7 or more before you realise he knows a thing or two about driving a formula 1 car.

I want to be sure it's Lewis and not the car before I start liking him as a driver...

Right now Lewis is just another Jaques Villuenerve or Damon Hill to me.

Oh, and winding up the McLaren supporters is too much fun at the mo ;p

if it was the car why wasn't kovi as quick?

your argument is flawed you have failed.

Hehe, I don't believe for one second Kovi has equal footing at that team. The car has been designed for and the team is being managed around Hamilton...

Your argument is Naive, you have failed...

[bud]

all this BS about level pegging within a team coming from a Schumacher fanatic

did it ever actually occur to you that Hamilton is actually good? i know its hard to admit but its pretty damn obvious

[la-ultima-curva]

Schumacher earnt his stripes, teams had no choice but to listen to him.

have you ever consider that lewis has such a talent that his abilities would be wasted 'earning stripes' in a lesser car?
i'm not saying that is the case, but before lunging into your poo-pooing of lewis you should maybe wait and see if he deserves his drive as no.1 at mclaren. would another wdc title work for you? or maybe lewis would have to win 7 or more before you realise he knows a thing or two about driving a formula 1 car.

I want to be sure it's Lewis and not the car before I start liking him as a driver...

Right now Lewis is just another Jaques Villuenerve or Damon Hill to me.

Oh, and winding up the McLaren supporters is too much fun at the mo ;p

if it was the car why wasn't kovi as quick?

your argument is flawed you have failed.

Hehe, I don't believe for one second Kovi has equal footing at that team. The car has been designed for and the team is being managed around Hamilton...

Your argument is Naive, you have failed...

so according to your logic, massa had preferential treatment at ferrari? although i did find out why kimi was performing better at mclaren http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HHUkHbgAtM&feature=related
of course not... you happen to be the naive one here

pointless telling you that... troll on my friend