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Well, you've basically hit the nail on the head. Sir Frank Williams - legendary as he is - is either delusional in thinking that his business model still works or is too arrogant to admit that it's outmoded. There were several reasons why Ron Dennis brought Mercedes into the McLaren Group (then McLaren-TAG Holdings), one of which was that he saw the direction Formula One was taking in the mid-1990s - i.e. expenditure was beginning to creep up. It's all very well being in Williams' situation when you are successful: companies are queuing up to sponsor the team, the best drivers want to work for the team etc.; but as soon as you hit a bad patch for a couple of seasons, your loss of success looses the things which made you successful in the first instance. It came as no surprise to me that Williams' fortunes dipped after Renault bailed out at the end of 1997 and went into free fall when BMW left them a couple of years back. Williams' finances are on live support at the moment. If things don't go well next season, Sir Frank would be crazy not to look for an investor. Unfortunately for him, the "credit crunch" means buying a stake in an ailing Formula One team isn't high up on businesses' to-do list.


I agree as well. But i can understand Frank's resistance. Williams F1 team's heart is still that of a racer, he doesn't want to corporatise it to the extent the other teams are doing. Its nostalgia, unpractical in the current climate sure, but the right way to be They are one of my favourite teams on the grid and am glad BMW's left 'em. But yes i guess its time for him to let go, and it may be too late now as you say.


formula one is no longer about pure passion and determination, its more a money business than anything (similar to football in respects to that money takes precedent over the actual sport) and unfortunately for williams its an end of an era. when you have teams like toyota spending big money and achieving relatively little per $ spent, williams does not stand a chance without a miracle.
i don't believe williams will leave f1 in the way super aguri did, but rather the way sauber went. time marches on and the weak get left behind... sad as it may be.
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By racechick
#82780
But if you are more of a driver supporter than a team supporter then you may change teams. It does not mean you are unsporting, untrustworthy or of a poor moral standard.


So AKR is wrong? :confused:




















:rofl:

:confused: AKR is a team supporter so no way will she change from Ferrari regardless of who drives for them. But Someone who primarily supporters a driver may might change teams to follow their ddriver. Neither is right or wrong ...just different.
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By kerc
#82791
But if you are more of a driver supporter than a team supporter then you may change teams. It does not mean you are unsporting, untrustworthy or of a poor moral standard.


So AKR is wrong? :confused:

:rofl:

:confused: AKR is a team supporter so no way will she change from Ferrari regardless of who drives for them. But Someone who primarily supporters a driver may might change teams to follow their ddriver. Neither is right or wrong ...just different.


I was kidding... :D
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By racechick
#82793
But if you are more of a driver supporter than a team supporter then you may change teams. It does not mean you are unsporting, untrustworthy or of a poor moral standard.


So AKR is wrong? :confused:

:rofl:

:confused: AKR is a team supporter so no way will she change from Ferrari regardless of who drives for them. But Someone who primarily supporters a driver may might change teams to follow their ddriver. Neither is right or wrong ...just different.


I was kidding... :D


Ah :D
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By deMuRe
#83527
however lets not forget the UK is the 2nd largest car market and Jensen is extremely marketable, he's keeping his drive because he helps move a lot of metal...

WTF? not even close!


They said so on Top Gear :hehe:
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By darwin dali
#83528
however lets not forget the UK is the 2nd largest car market and Jensen is extremely marketable, he's keeping his drive because he helps move a lot of metal...

WTF? not even close!


They said so on Top Gear :hehe:


Then it MUST be true, eh? Not!
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By bud
#83529
however lets not forget the UK is the 2nd largest car market and Jensen is extremely marketable, he's keeping his drive because he helps move a lot of metal...

WTF? not even close!


They said so on Top Gear :hehe:


Then it MUST be true, eh? Not!


hit a nerve eh? :rofl:
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By darwin dali
#83531
however lets not forget the UK is the 2nd largest car market and Jensen is extremely marketable, he's keeping his drive because he helps move a lot of metal...

WTF? not even close!


They said so on Top Gear :hehe:


Then it MUST be true, eh? Not!


hit a nerve eh? :rofl:


Nah, just check the numbers and you'll see...
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By bud
#83533
however lets not forget the UK is the 2nd largest car market and Jensen is extremely marketable, he's keeping his drive because he helps move a lot of metal...

WTF? not even close!


They said so on Top Gear :hehe:


Then it MUST be true, eh? Not!


hit a nerve eh? :rofl:


Nah, just check the numbers and you'll see...


im not doubting you, just you seemed overly pissed off about that statement :hehe:
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By darwin dali
#83534
Nah, but it did irk me a bit how they promote a sense of overly importance of the UK when it's not.
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By bud
#83535
Nah, but it did irk me a bit how they promote a sense of overly importance of the UK when it's not.


thought so, ive noticed you dont like the UK :wink:
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By darwin dali
#83582
Nah, but it did irk me a bit how they promote a sense of overly importance of the UK when it's not.


thought so, ive noticed you dont like the UK :wink:


Nope, I quite like the UK, but also like to make fun of them :thumbup:
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By deMuRe
#83597
however lets not forget the UK is the 2nd largest car market and Jensen is extremely marketable, he's keeping his drive because he helps move a lot of metal...

WTF? not even close!


They said so on Top Gear :hehe:


Then it MUST be true, eh? Not!


hit a nerve eh? :rofl:


Nah, just check the numbers and you'll see...


Got those figures handy? I would be very interested to see the rankings...

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