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[bud]

In 2005, Mario Illien and Roger Penske concluded a deal to purchase the small Special Projects part of the company, which since 2003 had been contracted to design and build Honda's IndyCar Series engines, and split away to become a separate company.
This new company, which is totally independent of Mercedes, is once again known as Ilmor Engineering Ltd. The new Ilmor continues to support Honda's involvement in the IRL as sole engine supplier.

[liquidmetal]

say yes to racing and no to single engined-medals

[bud]

say yes to racing and no to single engined-medals

say no to hobbits and nazis

[KyrosV]

still... I would rather see a multi supply formula.

[Gaz]

still... I would rather see a multi supply formula.

I think everyone Does.

[KyrosV]

I wasnt stiring up, I just thought Ilmor still had some mercedes roots, which wouldnt be fair on other manufacturer teams. I would like to see all these engine parties come into F1 anyway. It would be great for privateer teams instead of them having engines from the works teams and subsequently becoming their B team Bit*h's. F1 is taking the wrong direction to keeping the established fans & members. It seems hes dumbing it down for new fans in the so called 'New Markets'. F1 is supposed to be the establishment of showing off what you can do not making all the cars the same for financial benifits. Its really heartbreaking

[la-ultima-curva]

I wasnt stiring up, I just thought Ilmor still had some mercedes roots, which wouldnt be fair on other manufacturer teams. I would like to see all these engine parties come into F1 anyway. It would be great for privateer teams instead of them having engines from the works teams and subsequently becoming their B team Bit*h's. F1 is taking the wrong direction to keeping the established fans & members. It seems hes dumbing it down for new fans in the so called 'New Markets'. F1 is supposed to be the establishment of showing off what you can do not making all the cars the same for financial benifits. Its really heartbreaking

assuming that the single engine goes forward, which engine do they choose?
ferrari engine? renault engine? obviously not. fairness is not in their vocabulary.

this is why the whole debacle, as you said, is just plain stupidity... and heart breaking is an apt word

[2eyebrows]

I wasnt stiring up, I just thought Ilmor still had some mercedes roots, which wouldnt be fair on other manufacturer teams. I would like to see all these engine parties come into F1 anyway. It would be great for privateer teams instead of them having engines from the works teams and subsequently becoming their B team Bit*h's. F1 is taking the wrong direction to keeping the established fans & members. It seems hes dumbing it down for new fans in the so called 'New Markets'. F1 is supposed to be the establishment of showing off what you can do not making all the cars the same for financial benifits. Its really heartbreaking

assuming that the single engine goes forward, which engine do they choose?
ferrari engine? renault engine? obviously not. fairness is not in their vocabulary.

this is why the whole debacle, as you said, is just plain stupidity... and heart breaking is an apt word

well if they went this single engine route, to be fair i think they'd have to get one form outside of F1. Like a cosworth ...

F*ck sake. lets just hope they don't do it. ferrari with a non ferrari engine. McLaren MERCEDES with a ... no it just nonsense! Worse than the medals plan

[f1maniac95]

If this happens then there will definately be a breakaway series and F1 is also supposed to be showing off technological advances and improving road cars. A breakaway series will proboboly actually be better that current F1 because then they might have some of the proper circuits and not just rubbish ones like Valencia.

[texasmr2]

If they actually implicate a 'standard engine' for F1 it will be no different than the IndyCar series imo and that will/would be a very sad day.

[kerc]

Just as I'm getting back into F1, they are screwing up the sport. Great.

[7UpJordan]

Bollocks

Ilmor, the British independent race engineering company, is the frontrunner should F1 become a single engine formula.

F1's governing body, the FIA, recently opened a tender process, and the main bidders are Ilmor, Cosworth, Mecachrome, Zytek and Judd, Auto Motor und Sport revealed.

It is understood that Ilmor, currently involved with the Honda engine supply in America's Indycar series, has the best chance of winning the tender.

Headed by Mario Illien, Ilmor built engines for Mercedes-Benz's F1 involvement with McLaren, until the German manufacturer bought that aspect of the business in 2005.


Illien told German publication that the ideal engine for an imminent standard formula would be an approximately 3 litre V8 with about a 14,000 rev limit.

"That would give 680 to 700 horse power," he said, adding that one unit would be reliable for up to six full race weekends.

If everybody raced with Judds, nobody would make the finish line. A 3 litre V8 doesn't sound bad and it I think it wouldn't be bad if the FIA supplied standard engines as an option - especially for any new privateers that enter - but nobody should be forced into having them.

[Denthúl]

Bollocks

Ilmor, the British independent race engineering company, is the frontrunner should F1 become a single engine formula.

F1's governing body, the FIA, recently opened a tender process, and the main bidders are Ilmor, Cosworth, Mecachrome, Zytek and Judd, Auto Motor und Sport revealed.

It is understood that Ilmor, currently involved with the Honda engine supply in America's Indycar series, has the best chance of winning the tender.

Headed by Mario Illien, Ilmor built engines for Mercedes-Benz's F1 involvement with McLaren, until the German manufacturer bought that aspect of the business in 2005.


Illien told German publication that the ideal engine for an imminent standard formula would be an approximately 3 litre V8 with about a 14,000 rev limit.

"That would give 680 to 700 horse power," he said, adding that one unit would be reliable for up to six full race weekends.

If everybody raced with Judds, nobody would make the finish line. A 3 litre V8 doesn't sound bad and it I think it wouldn't be bad if the FIA supplied standard engines as an option - especially for any new privateers that enter - but nobody should be forced into having them.

Yeah, but a V8 capped at 14,000rpm as the cheap option versus the mor expensive 19,000rpm V8s? That wouldn't work too well. The worse-off teams wouldn't be able to capitalise on the low-cost. Sure, they'd be able to afford to stay in the sport, but what would be the point if they could only match the other teams with better funds in exceptional races?

[KyrosV]

lets just race ford KA's shall we