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#82839
No. Great Driver. Complete sausageface. But we do need someone of his calibar it must be said.
I just remamber him saying "i will never race for Ferrari I'll be great without them" or something like that claiming he was too good. Now, thats all he dreams about. I can't take double standards.

Alonso is an opportunist. When he was interested in moving to McLaren, he claimed they were the greatest team in Formula One and he always wanted to drive for McLaren since he was a child. Now, after, well, basically criticising Ferrari, he's talking them up. Alonso utters a load of sweet nothings.
#82842
No. Great Driver. Complete sausageface. But we do need someone of his calibar it must be said.
I just remamber him saying "i will never race for Ferrari I'll be great without them" or something like that claiming he was too good. Now, thats all he dreams about. I can't take double standards.

Alonso is an opportunist. When he was interested in moving to McLaren, he claimed they were the greatest team in Formula One and he always wanted to drive for McLaren since he was a child. Now, after, well, basically criticising Ferrari, he's talking them up. Alonso utters a load of sweet nothings.

Senna & Prost were both oppertunists too. If you want to be the best driver, you have to be in the best teams. Simple as that. You would be a fool to not recognise Ferrari and Mclaren are the greatest teams in F1.
#82843
Santander moving may not be proof positive that Alonso has a deal lined up with Ferrari. True, it might be a good place for him to be but it's by no means certain that he would be successful there. In his position I'd be considering giving it a go though.

It occurs to me too that McLaren may have just let this 1 go on purpose. Banks are having a hard time at the moment & perhaps they were't offering as much money as Ron's people can get from somebody anxious to have their name all over the car Lewis Hamilton is driving.
#82854
I wouldn't want a bank sponsoring me at the moment...!! :hehe:

Plus, Santander have already used Hamilton in so many bloody ads they must have got their money's worth by now.
#82856
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Lewis beat him once he'l beat him again proberly much easier since he'll be driving a crappy red car.

From the looks of things Santander want to invest more in F1 but Vodafone are the main sponsor of Mclaren so can't go further with them i t looks like Ferrari's main sponsor will switch from Malboro to Santander
#82866
No. Great Driver. Complete sausageface. But we do need someone of his calibar it must be said.
I just remamber him saying "i will never race for Ferrari I'll be great without them" or something like that claiming he was too good. Now, thats all he dreams about. I can't take double standards.

Alonso is an opportunist. When he was interested in moving to McLaren, he claimed they were the greatest team in Formula One and he always wanted to drive for McLaren since he was a child. Now, after, well, basically criticising Ferrari, he's talking them up. Alonso utters a load of sweet nothings.

Senna & Prost were both oppertunists too. If you want to be the best driver, you have to be in the best teams. Simple as that. You would be a fool to not recognise Ferrari and Mclaren are the greatest teams in F1.

I know Senna and Prost (and others) were opportunists, but at least they were open about the fact.
#82871
No. Great Driver. Complete sausageface. But we do need someone of his calibar it must be said.
I just remamber him saying "i will never race for Ferrari I'll be great without them" or something like that claiming he was too good. Now, thats all he dreams about. I can't take double standards.

Alonso is an opportunist. When he was interested in moving to McLaren, he claimed they were the greatest team in Formula One and he always wanted to drive for McLaren since he was a child. Now, after, well, basically criticising Ferrari, he's talking them up. Alonso utters a load of sweet nothings.

Senna & Prost were both oppertunists too. If you want to be the best driver, you have to be in the best teams. Simple as that. You would be a fool to not recognise Ferrari and Mclaren are the greatest teams in F1.

I know Senna and Prost (and others) were opportunists, but at least they were open about the fact.


And that's another reason why MS was the greatest ever: he went to Ferrari when they were shi!e and built up the team to reap the rewards. So, Mr. Sour Grapes Frog Mouth, what have you contributed to F1 to now start a smear campaign against MS, eh?
#82872
No. Great Driver. Complete sausageface. But we do need someone of his calibar it must be said.
I just remamber him saying "i will never race for Ferrari I'll be great without them" or something like that claiming he was too good. Now, thats all he dreams about. I can't take double standards.

Alonso is an opportunist. When he was interested in moving to McLaren, he claimed they were the greatest team in Formula One and he always wanted to drive for McLaren since he was a child. Now, after, well, basically criticising Ferrari, he's talking them up. Alonso utters a load of sweet nothings.

Senna & Prost were both oppertunists too. If you want to be the best driver, you have to be in the best teams. Simple as that. You would be a fool to not recognise Ferrari and Mclaren are the greatest teams in F1.

I know Senna and Prost (and others) were opportunists, but at least they were open about the fact.


Alonso has too, He said at the beggining of the season saying you need to catch the right team at the right time. I think its good for the sport that drivers go for them selves and are not tied back by any one team. It proves your skills if you can perform in any team you join. Thats why I dont mind Alonso leaving again. Im sure any racing driver, (weather in F1 or karting) they dream of racing for Mclaren and Ferrari.
#82875
And that's another reason why MS was the greatest ever: he went to Ferrari when they were shi!e and built up the team to reap the rewards. So, Mr. Sour Grapes Frog Mouth, what have you contributed to F1 to now start a smear campaign against MS, eh?

Please stop citing this myth about Schumacher turning Ferrari into a great team. Schumacher was one part of a fairly big equation. Luca di Montezemolo decided to get Ferrari back on track, so pumped a lot of extra money into the team. Jean Todt was hired to iron out the team's political tensions and get it organised. Then, come 1995/6, apart from Schumacher, Ferrari poached Rory Byrne, who designed some quick if not exactly innovative cars, and Ross Brawn, who knows how to get a team into shape and make some excellent strategy calls.
#82876
And that's another reason why MS was the greatest ever: he went to Ferrari when they were shi!e and built up the team to reap the rewards. So, Mr. Sour Grapes Frog Mouth, what have you contributed to F1 to now start a smear campaign against MS, eh?

Please stop citing this myth about Schumacher turning Ferrari into a great team. Schumacher was one part of a fairly big equation. Luca di Montezemolo decided to get Ferrari back on track, so pumped a lot of extra money into the team. Jean Todt was hired to iron out the team's political tensions and get it organised. Then, come 1995/6, apart from Schumacher, Ferrari poached Rory Byrne, who designed some quick if not exactly innovative cars, and Ross Brawn, who knows how to get a team into shape and make some excellent strategy calls.


The fact remains, he came to Ferrari when they performed very poorly and there was no guarantee for a turn around. MS galvanized the team, made it his own and delivered for them to turn the team around and dominate F1 for a decade. Something no other driver has ever achieved.
#82877
And that's another reason why MS was the greatest ever: he went to Ferrari when they were shi!e and built up the team to reap the rewards. So, Mr. Sour Grapes Frog Mouth, what have you contributed to F1 to now start a smear campaign against MS, eh?

Please stop citing this myth about Schumacher turning Ferrari into a great team. Schumacher was one part of a fairly big equation. Luca di Montezemolo decided to get Ferrari back on track, so pumped a lot of extra money into the team. Jean Todt was hired to iron out the team's political tensions and get it organised. Then, come 1995/6, apart from Schumacher, Ferrari poached Rory Byrne, who designed some quick if not exactly innovative cars, and Ross Brawn, who knows how to get a team into shape and make some excellent strategy calls.


The fact remains, he came to Ferrari when they performed very poorly and there was no guarantee for a turn around. MS galvanized the team, made it his own and delivered for them to turn the team around and dominate F1 for a decade. Something no other driver has ever achieved.

It's funny you should say there was no guarantee for a turn around, for Schumacher himself said the reason he came to the team was because there was a very good chance of it improving, i.e. di Montezemolo and Todt meant business.

Schumacher was a very, very good driver and would certainly have won world championships, but he is not as great, glorious and ontipotent as his barmy army of fans would have us all believe.
#82878
And that's another reason why MS was the greatest ever: he went to Ferrari when they were shi!e and built up the team to reap the rewards. So, Mr. Sour Grapes Frog Mouth, what have you contributed to F1 to now start a smear campaign against MS, eh?

Please stop citing this myth about Schumacher turning Ferrari into a great team. Schumacher was one part of a fairly big equation. Luca di Montezemolo decided to get Ferrari back on track, so pumped a lot of extra money into the team. Jean Todt was hired to iron out the team's political tensions and get it organised. Then, come 1995/6, apart from Schumacher, Ferrari poached Rory Byrne, who designed some quick if not exactly innovative cars, and Ross Brawn, who knows how to get a team into shape and make some excellent strategy calls.


The fact remains, he came to Ferrari when they performed very poorly and there was no guarantee for a turn around. MS galvanized the team, made it his own and delivered for them to turn the team around and dominate F1 for a decade. Something no other driver has ever achieved.

It's funny you should say there was no guarantee for a turn around, for Schumacher himself said the reason he came to the team was because there was a very good chance of it improving, i.e. di Montezemolo and Todt meant business.

Schumacher was a very, very good driver and would certainly have won world championships, but he is not as great, glorious and ontipotent as his barmy army of fans would have us all believe.


A very good chance is not a guarantee. Without him, Ferrari would have had to kiss goodbye any chance of winning those titles. EI and RB were no championship material.
Pot calling a kettle black here, aren't we? This (not as great, glorious, etc.) coming from you, one of the most ardent Senna glorifiers on here? :P
#82879
Ayrton Senna was simply mesmerising when he was on form, but I'm were aware he had his flaws. Nice try to switch the focus onto me, by the way. I'll take that as a sign of your defeat.
#82880
Ayrton Senna was simply mesmerising when he was on form, but I'm were aware he had his flaws. Nice try to switch the focus onto me, by the way. I'll take that as a sign of your defeat.



Nope, I answered your challenge and then pointed out where that challenge came from to put it in perspective.

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