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[KyrosV]

¿Que coño eres tú? ¡Señor LA-ULTIMA-CURVA, insultame de nuevo e yo te prometo que te crujo! ¿Que coño sabes tú? ¿Yo puedo decir lo que me gusta, entiendes? E yo no me afirmo de nada, sé seguramente que soy aficionada de la Escudería Ferrari. ¡Este es un hecho! El resto no tenga más importancia.

All I got was "What the hell are you?" and its a fact she likes ferrari

[AKR]

AKR, maybe your tounge is mostly firmyly in your cheek, but judging perhaps by some of your posts it' not always that clear.

I am not as bad as you think. Many times I am joking, yet some people cannot draw along the lines of sarcasim and reality. Yet what annoys me is if one of the McLarenites made the same joke against Ferrari they get no abuse. But when I do it I get abused and ganged up on. And that I don't take. If I have to fight 20 of them I will. But in all reality I don't think F1 = Ferrari and all that. The McLarenites hate it when I say it so I say it when they annoy me. I really am not that bad. I don't appreciate being called names like a bigot. I don't even know what that means but I can work out the linguistics of it since that is what I am good at,that that is an insult to me. If I now say that McLaren is the best and Ferrari are cheats, no Ferrari fan will insult me and the McLarenites will be happy. It seems like it is all a one way street here and that I do not like.

[AKR]

¿Que coño eres tú? ¡Señor LA-ULTIMA-CURVA, insultame de nuevo e yo te prometo que te crujo! ¿Que coño sabes tú? ¿Yo puedo decir lo que me gusta, entiendes? E yo no me afirmo de nada, sé seguramente que soy aficionada de la Escudería Ferrari. ¡Este es un hecho! El resto no tenga más importancia.

All I got was "What the hell are you?" and its a fact she likes ferrari

Don't worry about it. Besides you got the most important parts so just leave it at that. I do love Ferrari, and love Ferrari more than the sport of F1 I guess. Sorry if I am seen as an outcast to this society but it is the reason why I watch F1 and not say Indy.

[2eyebrows]

AKR, maybe your tounge is mostly firmyly in your cheek, but judging perhaps by some of your posts it' not always that clear.

I am not as bad as you think. Many times I am joking, yet some people cannot draw along the lines of sarcasim and reality. Yet what annoys me is if one of the McLarenites made the same joke against Ferrari they get no abuse. But when I do it I get abused and ganged up on. And that I don't take. If I have to fight 20 of them I will. But in all reality I don't think F1 = Ferrari and all that. The McLarenites hate it when I say it so I say it when they annoy me. I really am not that bad. I don't appreciate being called names like a bigot. I don't even know what that means but I can work out the linguistics of it since that is what I am good at,that that is an insult to me. If I now say that McLaren is the best and Ferrari are cheats, no Ferrari fan will insult me and the McLarenites will be happy. It seems like it is all a one way street here and that I do not like.

yes yes, but you miss the point. Its the Ferrari 'uber alles' attitude thats bad. Its not neccesarily yours attitude as you claim - you're taking the piss

[la-ultima-curva]

AKR, maybe your tounge is mostly firmyly in your cheek, but judging perhaps by some of your posts it' not always that clear.

I am not as bad as you think. Many times I am joking, yet some people cannot draw along the lines of sarcasim and reality. Yet what annoys me is if one of the McLarenites made the same joke against Ferrari they get no abuse. But when I do it I get abused and ganged up on. And that I don't take. If I have to fight 20 of them I will. But in all reality I don't think F1 = Ferrari and all that. The McLarenites hate it when I say it so I say it when they annoy me. I really am not that bad. I don't appreciate being called names like a bigot. I don't even know what that means but I can work out the linguistics of it since that is what I am good at,that that is an insult to me. If I now say that McLaren is the best and Ferrari are cheats, no Ferrari fan will insult me and the McLarenites will be happy. It seems like it is all a one way street here and that I do not like.

come on!! please re-read what you have posted and even if its taken in jest, its still has that flavour of a bigot. and before you go all spanish on me again, a bigot is not strictly an insult. it just means you have a one tracked mind when it comes to all thing mclaren and ferrari.

try be opened minded and remember whatever you post is subject to interpretation from whoever reads it, as you have jumped to conclusions about me.

at any rate i will apologise if i have insulted you, and i'm happy for you being a ferrari fan.

[AKR]

AKR, maybe your tounge is mostly firmyly in your cheek, but judging perhaps by some of your posts it' not always that clear.

I am not as bad as you think. Many times I am joking, yet some people cannot draw along the lines of sarcasim and reality. Yet what annoys me is if one of the McLarenites made the same joke against Ferrari they get no abuse. But when I do it I get abused and ganged up on. And that I don't take. If I have to fight 20 of them I will. But in all reality I don't think F1 = Ferrari and all that. The McLarenites hate it when I say it so I say it when they annoy me. I really am not that bad. I don't appreciate being called names like a bigot. I don't even know what that means but I can work out the linguistics of it since that is what I am good at,that that is an insult to me. If I now say that McLaren is the best and Ferrari are cheats, no Ferrari fan will insult me and the McLarenites will be happy. It seems like it is all a one way street here and that I do not like.

come on!! please re-read what you have posted and even if its taken in jest, its still has that flavour of a bigot. and before you go all spanish on me again, a bigot is not strictly an insult. it just means you have a one tracked mind when it comes to all thing mclaren and ferrari.

try be opened minded and remember whatever you post is subject to interpretation from whoever reads it, as you have jumped to conclusions about me.

at any rate i will apologise if i have insulted you, and i'm happy for you being a ferrari fan.

Appology accepted. I take back what I wrote in Spanish as well. If you actually understood it that is.

[2eyebrows]

Remember, these McLaren fans are very serious ... can't blame em with a team bosst like grumpy Ron Dennis.

[AKR]

Remember, these McLaren fans are very serious ... can't blame em with a team bosst like grumpy Ron Dennis.

Yes I learn't that quite a while back, but many thanks for your humble advise fellow Ferrari supporter.

[2eyebrows]

who you calling humble?

[la-ultima-curva]

AKR, maybe your tounge is mostly firmyly in your cheek, but judging perhaps by some of your posts it' not always that clear.

I am not as bad as you think. Many times I am joking, yet some people cannot draw along the lines of sarcasim and reality. Yet what annoys me is if one of the McLarenites made the same joke against Ferrari they get no abuse. But when I do it I get abused and ganged up on. And that I don't take. If I have to fight 20 of them I will. But in all reality I don't think F1 = Ferrari and all that. The McLarenites hate it when I say it so I say it when they annoy me. I really am not that bad. I don't appreciate being called names like a bigot. I don't even know what that means but I can work out the linguistics of it since that is what I am good at,that that is an insult to me. If I now say that McLaren is the best and Ferrari are cheats, no Ferrari fan will insult me and the McLarenites will be happy. It seems like it is all a one way street here and that I do not like.

come on!! please re-read what you have posted and even if its taken in jest, its still has that flavour of a bigot. and before you go all spanish on me again, a bigot is not strictly an insult. it just means you have a one tracked mind when it comes to all thing mclaren and ferrari.

try be opened minded and remember whatever you post is subject to interpretation from whoever reads it, as you have jumped to conclusions about me.

at any rate i will apologise if i have insulted you, and i'm happy for you being a ferrari fan.

Appology accepted. I take back what I wrote in Spanish as well. If you actually understood it that is.

lol... i didn't understand it and its probably best i don't

anyway, what i was trying to get at is better explained by 2eyebrows posts... think he understood me
glad thats all cleared up, and maybe we should get back op topic

[AKR]

who you calling humble?

I was saying it to you, that is a good thing isn't? English not my first language so appolgises if I make a mistake. I was wanting to say something nice to you.

[la-ultima-curva]

who you calling humble?

i take it back, 2eyebrows is always wrong... ron dennis is kind sweet old man who loves every one, even alonso!

[2eyebrows]

who you calling humble?

I was saying it to you, that is a good thing isn't? English not my first language so appolgises if I make a mistake. I was wanting to say something nice to you.

I was joking. And i think that makes the point

[SENNA71]

who you calling humble?

i take it back, 2eyebrows is always wrong... ron dennis is kind sweet old man who loves every one, even alonso!

honestly I understand Ron, who can cope with a cry-baby-maria-magdalena that spends the entire budget in Klennex????

[2eyebrows]

I think the point that the ultimate curve is trying to make is that alot of Ferrari fans want whats good for ferrari, and not F1, ie not proper f1 race fans. As a Ferrai fan its something that really erks me. I must be honest, even i can't look past some of the FIA favouritsim towards them and i got to thinking that maybe there is something to some conspiracy theories (though that may be pushing it). Some of the stewarding decisions this year made me ashamed. The 2 in Japan in favour of Massa. (with hamilton and with Bourdais. WTF?)

Come on folks ... this was a very difficult & painful admission for me. I think a pat on the back is in order