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[Tony_sa]

Felipe is extremely underrated .... and lots of people notice the ability he has to stay on top...... Thats the reason they have for feeling theatened by him. That he may the one standing in the way of mclaren ( be they honda or merc powered - while ferrari has always been a ferrari powered vehicle ) ending their almost 10 years of drought in the winning department. This fact is putting most of them on edge that they appear willing to attack on every front. However Iwill cry with them if that nutcase hamilton blows it again this year. I will be rolling on the floor laughing so hard that i wont be able to breath. tears of joy i think it will be.

[bud]

I feel sorry for Lewis Hamilton and his local friendly steward-um. the world title should have been over with his win in China!

What if Felipe hadn't had those 20 points lost for him?

what about the 7 points given to him by the stewards??

But what of Lewis' lost points at Canada and his pit error in Sepang, or his tyre failure in Hungary..... tail of two in the unlucky department! though Lewis has had no favours from the stewards!

[AKR]

I feel sorry for Lewis Hamilton and his local friendly steward-um. the world title should have been over with his win in China!

What if Felipe hadn't had those 20 points lost for him?

what about the 7 points given to him by the stewards??

But what of Lewis' lost points at Canada and his pit error in Sepang, or his tyre failure in Hungary..... tail of two in the unlucky department! though Lewis has had no favours from the stewards!

There are no favours from the stewards, there is no FIA-rrari, and there is no conspiracy. This is a make believe alternate reality, created by McLaren supporters. The symtoms of this syndrome is very much in normal everyday language referred to as being a "Sore Loser". And the more McLarenites bring these excuses up, the more they will be seen as sore losers.

[bud]

actually it is reality or Lewis would not have had his points taken from him......

[Denthúl]

I'm a brave man

Lewis is more consistent i mean look at the start of the season Felipe puts it in the gravel twice.

then look at Monaco, Silverstone or Monza abit of rain and you immediately see the difference

I only said over a single lap.

At both Moncao and Monza, Massa had no real issues with the rain. Had he not made that mistake in Monaco (which, to be honest, everybody was making) then he could quite easily have won the race. But we're not talking race distances here, just the one qualifying lap.

I do think Felipe is underrated because of his debut season setting the impression of him in peoples' minds, but he's not as underrated as some people think. He's good, but he only seems to be on the level of, say, Alonso and Raikkonen, on his good days.

[bud]

I'm a brave man

Lewis is more consistent i mean look at the start of the season Felipe puts it in the gravel twice.

then look at Monaco, Silverstone or Monza abit of rain and you immediately see the difference

I only said over a single lap.

At both Moncao and Monza, Massa had no real issues with the rain. Had he not made that mistake in Monaco (which, to be honest, everybody was making) then he could quite easily have won the race. But we're not talking race distances here, just the one qualifying lap.

I do think Felipe is underrated because of his debut season setting the impression of him in peoples' minds, but he's not as underrated as some people think. He's good, but he only seems to be on the level of, say, Alonso and Raikkonen, on his good days.

i dunno what data youre using to base that claim but cool!

[AKR]

actually it is reality or Lewis would not have had his points taken from him......

No it isn't. Lewis the git stuffed up so he got a penalty. There is no conspiracy, accept it or be a sore loser.

[bud]

actually it is reality or Lewis would not have had his points taken from him......

No it isn't. Lewis the git stuffed up so he got a penalty. There is no conspiracy, accept it or be a sore loser.

did he stuff up with Massa and Bordais did he???? take your head out the sand akr

[AKR]

actually it is reality or Lewis would not have had his points taken from him......

No it isn't. Lewis the git stuffed up so he got a penalty. There is no conspiracy, accept it or be a sore loser.

did he stuff up with Massa and Bordais did he???? take your head out the sand akr

Yeah I watched it a few times. Bourdais got in Massa's way as Massa tried to pass him on the first turn after the straight and exit of the pit lane as well. I guess the stewards were right and were just doing their job. If Massa wins the title, you will say how much Ferrari are cheats and all that bullpoo that goes with it. If Lewis Hamilton wins you'll say how great he is because not only did he beat Massa and Ferrari, but he also bet the FIA and the stewards. So either way no matter what happens you will go on to prove yourself a SORE LOSER because in the end regardless of the outcome, either driver would of won it on their own. There is no conspiracy, face reality, McLaren does do wrongs as well. The people at Woking are not saints, all humans think alike weather it be Ferrari or McLaren, the FIA and stewards are indepentent of Ferrari or McLaren and make their own rational decisions.

[bud]

actually it is reality or Lewis would not have had his points taken from him......

No it isn't. Lewis the git stuffed up so he got a penalty. There is no conspiracy, accept it or be a sore loser.

did he stuff up with Massa and Bordais did he???? take your head out the sand akr

Yeah I watched it a few times. Bourdais got in Massa's way as Massa tried to pass him on the first turn after the straight and exit of the pit lane as well. I guess the stewards were right and were just doing their job. If Massa wins the title, you will say how much Ferrari are cheats and all that bullpoo that goes with it. If Lewis Hamilton wins you'll say how great he is because not only did he beat Massa and Ferrari, but he also bet the FIA and the stewards. So either way no matter what happens you will go on to prove yourself a SORE LOSER because in the end regardless of the outcome, either driver would of won it on their own. There is no conspiracy, face reality, McLaren does do wrongs as well. The people at Woking are not saints, all humans think alike weather it be Ferrari or McLaren, the FIA and stewards are indepentent of Ferrari or McLaren and make their own rational decisions.

enough said

[AKR]

actually it is reality or Lewis would not have had his points taken from him......

No it isn't. Lewis the git stuffed up so he got a penalty. There is no conspiracy, accept it or be a sore loser.

did he stuff up with Massa and Bordais did he???? take your head out the sand akr

Yeah I watched it a few times. Bourdais got in Massa's way as Massa tried to pass him on the first turn after the straight and exit of the pit lane as well. I guess the stewards were right and were just doing their job. If Massa wins the title, you will say how much Ferrari are cheats and all that bullpoo that goes with it. If Lewis Hamilton wins you'll say how great he is because not only did he beat Massa and Ferrari, but he also bet the FIA and the stewards. So either way no matter what happens you will go on to prove yourself a SORE LOSER because in the end regardless of the outcome, either driver would of won it on their own. There is no conspiracy, face reality, McLaren does do wrongs as well. The people at Woking are not saints, all humans think alike weather it be Ferrari or McLaren, the FIA and stewards are indepentent of Ferrari or McLaren and make their own rational decisions.

enough said

That is right, enough said, you have no comeback. SORE LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kiki wins because she had the power of Ferrari on her side.

[bud]

what ever floats your boat but theres no point with you, your heads firmly up Ferrari's arse its funny you cant see all the s*** around you!

[AKR]

what ever floats your boat but theres no point with you, your heads firmly up Ferrari's arse its funny you cant see all the s*** around you!

and look who is talking. McLaren is firmily up your crotch and you nothing more than a sore loser because everytime your team loses, then you have to shift your mind to the make believe realm of where the FIA and the stewards favour Ferrari. You need to understand that although these realms can make you feel better, you must not confuse them with reality. In the real world no such joint-venture between the FIA/Stewards and Ferrari actual exists and one that constantly insists that it can be carried over from the make-believe realm to the real world is and will be perceived as a sore loser.

[bud]

missed reading your reply but can assume its more

head up the arse or head in the sand, either way sums you up to a tea

[AKR]

missed reading your reply but can assume its more

head up the arse or head in the sand, either way sums you up to a tea

Yeah, yeah, yeah blow it all up your arse. You know I am right and the more you insist a conspiracy exists will go to show that your full of shiit. Man I should sing some football songs to you. Also note that Lewis Hamilton is actually leading the drivers title and is likely to win it. If a conspiracy actually existed, then the FIA-rrari as you like to call it in your make believe fantasy world, would of easily sorted Lewis Hamilton a long time ago. And believe me if a conspiracy really did exist, they would of done so no matter how good Lewis Hamilton was/is able to perform. Get your head out of you bullpoo fantasy world and face reality. No conspiracy exists. Repeat it 1000 times if need be until you convince yourself. Do it for your own sake, because if you don't. then you will be seen as a SORE LOSER. Man I am too good. And on that high I will finish off for the night. Lahko noč.