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#75914
It's been known for some time that Toyota is very interested in competing in LeMans, sending squads of racing engineers and observers to the races both in Europe and the American series. Now word has broken that Toyota may be considering a switch from the costly and thankless world of Formula One to the storied Le Mans series.

Speaking at the F1 Grand Prix in Shanghai, Toyota representative Tadashi Tamashina said, "We would like to go to Le Mans. The final decision for Le Mans depends on the budget. Under the present economic conditions, it is unlikely that Formula 1 and Le Mans can be done in parallel. It is an either-or situation." The rising likelihood of a spec-engine in F1 would drive Toyota from the sport, Yamashina added, according to Auto Motor & Sport.

Earlier this week Max Mosley proposed to do just that for the 2010-2012 seasons, but a meeting in Geneva on Tuesday between the Formula One Teams Association (FOTA) and the FIA resulted in a cost-cutting agreement that obviates the spec-engine shift before 2010. After 2010, however, the window remains open, meaning Toyota may already be gearing up to go to Le Mans.

Le Mans isn't without its own rules changes and drama, however. New chassis and engine rules are to come into effect in the 2011 season. Already Honda, which competes in both Le Mans and F1, has begun implementing hybrid solutions in its Le Mans cars, but the lessons Toyota learns in F1 next year with its own hybrid systems could translate to the Le Mans series with little loss in R&D value.

Toyota already has a great deal of experience in endurance racing thanks to its involvement in the Rolex Grand Am series through its Lexus motorsports program.

Only time, and the politics of the individual series, will tell, but the future of Toyota F1 racing appears to be in jeopardy.


http://www.motorauthority.com/toyota-considering-leaving-f1-for-lemans.html


I know a lot of people here ar going to be like 'good riddance' but I dont think F1 can afford to lose another team. For me its both good and bad. The bad is that F1 is going to lose another team, and I dont think F1 can afford to lose another team because I cant think of any other manufacturer that would want to join F1, especially in these economic times. The good is that there will be more competition at Le Mans which should be exciting because Honda is moving to LMP1 next year, and Porsche will eventually move up aswell, and I'm starting to consider Le Mans the best form of motorspot in the world because they have very little political crap compared to F1, which I am starting to get fed up with, and they have some damn good races.
#75917
As much as I'd absolutely love to see Toyota leave Formula One, the grid is really a little bit sparse. Twenty cars is really the minimum acceptable amount to hold a serious Grand Prix. Unless at least one more team enters the sport, and this is unlikely at the minute, begrudgingly I'd... [Takes a deep breath.] I'd li... [Pause.] like them to stay for a while longer.
#75925
I don't want to see Toyota go. Imagine they one day won a world title. That would be all sooooooooooooooo coooooool. :yes::thumbup::D
#75932
toyota have really grown on me this year, I'm quite a fan of the manufacturer based teams and it would be a real shame to see them go, respect to them for coming out and saying it, keep the engines made by the teams
By f1maniac95
#75949
As much as I don't think they can win a world championship I think they should stay in F1 a little while longer because we've seen them steadily improving this year and who knows they could just spring a suprise.
#75954
I wonder what impact this would have on Williams? Unless Toyota plan to pack up their works team but at the same time concentrate on Williams' engine supply. Because that's just the manufacturer support Williams has been craving for since the end of the BMW days and even the Renault days. Apparently Sir Frank is also big buddies with Toyota's Chairman which has something to do with how the deal first came about.
#75958
toyota have really grown on me this year, I'm quite a fan of the manufacturer based teams and it would be a real shame to see them go, respect to them for coming out and saying it, keep the engines made by the teams


I've found the same thing happening to me. It's as if they've really made an effort this season instead of just trundling around in the mid-field constantly. Perhaps it's the fact that they've taken Glock on and he's been exciting to watch, making one of their cars exciting to watch.

If I were a team that single engine joke would drive me away too.

Agreed.

But doesn't Toyota have the money to be in both if they choose?


Yes. But why waste £300m per year in F1 if you have to use someone else's technology to race? May as well just stick all your effort in to building Le Mans cars where you can have your own chassis and engine.
#75963
Toyota spend more money than anyone else but have very little success and that is not good business. If they can be more competitive than Le Mans then I don't see why they should stick in F1. Manufacturer teams leaving F1 is the worst thing that could happen right now and I fear that Honda may be next if things don't turn around
#75968
I wonder what impact this would have on Williams? Unless Toyota plan to pack up their works team but at the same time concentrate on Williams' engine supply. Because that's just the manufacturer support Williams has been craving for since the end of the BMW days and even the Renault days. Apparently Sir Frank is also big buddies with Toyota's Chairman which has something to do with how the deal first came about.


A Williams with a works engine is a Williams that can challenge at the front, this would be great! :thumbup:
#75979
I wonder what impact this would have on Williams? Unless Toyota plan to pack up their works team but at the same time concentrate on Williams' engine supply. Because that's just the manufacturer support Williams has been craving for since the end of the BMW days and even the Renault days. Apparently Sir Frank is also big buddies with Toyota's Chairman which has something to do with how the deal first came about.


They may still supply engines to Williams in order to maintain a presence in the sport.
#75992
I dunno, I doubt the threat of a single engine format (which won't happen, IMO) is the real reason. Surely someone somewhere at Toyato must be pretty pissed off at flushing hundreds of millions away every year for very little return. I mean, jaysus, they have the resources to really challenge and it's been a years now and very little progress. Just concentrate on the engine for Williams and they're more likely to achieve more in F1 for less money.

I'd like them to stay and actually gain some success but I can understand the let's just call it a day attitude after all the money and time spent. I'd actually like another manufacturer to come in in addition but who really knows what will happen in the current climate.

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