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By Martin
#75191
I have previously run a thread with this title but this is a slightly different approach.
2 of the outstanding problems that F1 faces are the desire for more overtaking opportunities, and a reduction in costs.

Maybe, if there were tyre spec. regs. tyres could be made 'harder' and less grippy, this, along with the forthcoming regs for next season would have the effect of:- a) Reducing 'marbles' and increasing overtaking opportunities and b) limiting the amount of power that can be effectively used, thus reducing the power output requirement of the engine, allowing lower cost and more durable engines . I am not talking about massive differences here. but just a 3 or 4% power reduction would make a difference and allow the less well funded teams to keep up better.
As the old Pirrelli ad. used to say ' Power is nothing without control' - whatever the engine, transmission and chassis can do, it all has to work through the tyres, so I think that there must be potential for making the sport better by using tyre regs.
What do you reckon?
By f1maniac95
#75192
That sounds like a great idea the drivers might not be to keen on it though because of the reduced grip.
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By KyrosV
#75204
They really should have more than one tyre manufacturer in the sport. It did make it more competative. make it open to all tyre makers!

Goodyear, Pirreli, Dunlop, Michellin

dont those names sound glamourously F1?
By Tony_sa
#75207
They really should have more than one tyre manufacturer in the sport. It did make it more competative. make it open to all tyre makers!

Goodyear, Pirreli, Dunlop, Michellin

dont those names sound glamourously F1?


I doubt if many tyre manufacturers would even consider putting there tyres a against a benchmark like being tested on a F1 car. It will create a serious competition amongst them for if their tyres should fail they will end up losing bucks on the open market and the extra research will even cost them more. great idea but never gonna happen.... not if it gonna cost them bucks they not losing right now
By Gaz
#75210
They really should have more than one tyre manufacturer in the sport. It did make it more competative. make it open to all tyre makers!

Goodyear, Pirreli, Dunlop, Michellin

dont those names sound glamourously F1?


It would make things more intresting. can't see it happening tho.

there already trying to level the playing field with engnies
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By KyrosV
#75217
I know it will never happen, and its stoopid
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By KyrosV
#75228
I know it will never happen, and its stoopid

:loopy::hammer:

are they me? (sorry how suffolk of me)

is that me being bashed by the Hammer? if so... :(
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By stonemonkey
#75259
I have previously run a thread with this title but this is a slightly different approach.
2 of the outstanding problems that F1 faces are the desire for more overtaking opportunities, and a reduction in costs.

Maybe, if there were tyre spec. regs. tyres could be made 'harder' and less grippy, this, along with the forthcoming regs for next season would have the effect of:- a) Reducing 'marbles' and increasing overtaking opportunities and b) limiting the amount of power that can be effectively used, thus reducing the power output requirement of the engine, allowing lower cost and more durable engines . I am not talking about massive differences here. but just a 3 or 4% power reduction would make a difference and allow the less well funded teams to keep up better.
As the old Pirrelli ad. used to say ' Power is nothing without control' - whatever the engine, transmission and chassis can do, it all has to work through the tyres, so I think that there must be potential for making the sport better by using tyre regs.
What do you reckon?


afaik the point of the grooved tyres was to reduce the grip but I would like to see something done to try to reduce the marbles so drivers can be more confident in going off line.
By Gaz
#75277
I know it will never happen, and its stoopid

:loopy::hammer:

are they me? (sorry how suffolk of me)

is that me being bashed by the Hammer? if so... :(


no it was a "visual" repisentation of the FIA in response to your Stoopid.

lol
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By McLaren Fan
#75327
The grooved tyres seem to have been more prone to the bad effects of going wide onto the marbles more so than the slick tyres were. Slicks coming back next year should help matters. The 1999 regulation changes also really reduced the cars' mechanical grip, so running onto the marbles became even more dodgy. Again, the rule changes for next season should help this. The 2009 rule changes aren't "the be all and end all", however. I think they've gone down the wrong road in several areas; the rear-wing design is an area that particularly annoys me. The cars, also, should have been made 20 cm. wider. I do agree with Martin in theory that the tyres should be made slightly harder. In practice, however, I'm not sure how this will work. The teams will only design their cars to use their tyres more "aggressively", as it were. To fully combat this problem, one would have to look at placing limits on suspension geometry etc., and this is something I would hate to see in Formula One. It's far too intrusive and restrictive.
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By KyrosV
#75372
I know it will never happen, and its stoopid

:loopy::hammer:

are they me? (sorry how suffolk of me)

is that me being bashed by the Hammer? if so... :(


no it was a "visual" repisentation of the FIA in response to your Stoopid.

lol

fair play :thumbup:
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By darwin dali
#75622
In my view there should be only 3 different types of tires for the entire season, no matter which race track: one dry, one intermediate, one wet.
The dry tire should be way harder with a limit of 8 tires per race per driver - PERIOD!
:director:

Heck, when I drive south, I don't put softer tires on, do I? I also have to drive in the wet with my all-season tires and try to get many thousands of miles out of them; but I make a concession to the racing aspect, so they should have special tires for the rainy days.
By al4x
#75655
In my view there should be only 3 different types of tires for the entire season, no matter which race track: one dry, one intermediate, one wet.
The dry tire should be way harder with a limit of 8 tires per race per driver - PERIOD!
:director:

Heck, when I drive south, I don't put softer tires on, do I? I also have to drive in the wet with my all-season tires and try to get many thousands of miles out of them; but I make a concession to the racing aspect, so they should have special tires for the rainy days.


tyres i think are the key to overtaking, its pretty much the most important, and variable part in the gp
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By McLaren Fan
#75750
Well, you could argue against that. One could say that as the tyres won't be as suited to the track and/or racing conditions, some drivers could be caught out and others could be able to display their better skill. Personally, I'd like to see the differences between the types of tyre decreased slightly. That means the choice of which tyre would be more tricky, which would do as I said at the beginning of this post. You could maybe do this as well without having more types of tyres being designed; just make the option and prime tyres a little bit more similar.

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