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[Tony_sa]

AKR

[Gaz]

Hi,

My name is AKR i'm really shallow and don't really care who drives for my team just as long as they Win, also i really like the colour red because its the colour of ferrari.

And if Massa wins by having Kimi or Alonso ram Lewis off the track then i would be very very happy this again is because i'm shallow and not really an F1 Fan or fan of the sport in general i'm just like to see Ferrari's win by any means necessary.

Because Ferrari are the bestest team ever.

Because i like red cars.

And i hate Silver Cars

And i Hate drivers who drive with yellow helmets

Unless they drive for Ferrari then there ok.


Thats what your saying about yourself.

And as if you wouldn't think the same. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease now don't deny it. Here is a example. Let us say that it is the last race and Lewis Hamilton leads Massa by one point. Massa is on pole and Lewis Hamilton second. The start of the race happens and Lewis Hamilton goes late under brakes only to stuff it up and take out Massa in the process. Lewis Hamilton then becomes world champion as they are both out of the race. That would be as you call it "Shallow" but you would accept that would you not? Don't lie now because I know you would be if you say no. So in the end you are no different to me. The difference between you and I is that I am not afraid to show my true feelings. You don't speak up because you are afraid that others will mock you. A true sign of weakness.

When have i ever come out saying i wanted Hekki or Lewis to Ram a ferrari never! Yet you go on about it loads.

If lewis won the championship in that fashion i would accept it because of what has happened at spa etc..

But i wouldn't have as much respect for him.

I've got no moral weakness believe me i want a fair sport thats enjoyable to watch i want to see aggressive racing but not F1 dodgems as i have said many times.

oh and a side note,

Tony Your such a suckup man, its hilarious.

[AKR]

When have i ever come out saying i wanted Hekki or Lewis to Ram a ferrari never! Yet you go on about it loads.

You don't need to say. As I said I speak my mind, you don't. Umm let me see. So what did you think of the way Ayrton Senna won the championship over Alain Prost in 1990? Forget about what happend the year before. Senna took out Prost on that first corner of Suzuka and claims the title and Senna admitted doing it on purpose. Do you accept that win Longbow? I am quite sure you do and I dont want to hear the reasons as to why it happened, and why it was dismmissed and who Balestre favoured. I by all means don't take the win away from Senna as he was the 1990 World Champion. I unlike McLarenites don't say but we should of won and you guys cheated etc. But my question to you is that after Senna admitted doing this and winning the title by taking out Prost, do you accept that as moral victory? Think carefully before you answer as you may strongly contradict yourself.

[Tony_sa]

Longbow .... lol .... this womans got you by the crotch and swinging you around contemplating in which direction she going to send you flying. you will not win this arguement. so drop the egotistic stupidity. you defending merc to the point that everything you coming up with now comes out of your thumb. dont you know when to give up???? she has you whipped !!!!

[Gaz]

When have i ever come out saying i wanted Hekki or Lewis to Ram a ferrari never! Yet you go on about it loads.

You don't need to say. As I said I speak my mind, you don't. Umm let me see. So what did you think of the way Ayrton Senna won the championship over Alain Prost in 1990? Forget about what happend the year before. Senna took out Prost on that first corner of Suzuka and claims the title and Senna admitted doing it on purpose. Do you accept that win Longbow? I am quite sure you do and I dont want to hear the reasons as to why it happened, and why it was dismmissed and who Balestre favoured. I by all means don't take the win away from Senna as he was the 1990 World Champion. I unlike McLarenites don't say but we should of won and you guys cheated etc. But my question to you is that after Senna admitted doing this and winning the title by taking out Prost, do you accept that as moral victory? Think carefully before you answer as you may strongly contradict yourself.

I'd watch the interview that senna gave after doing that to understand why he did it.

It was abit extreme and over the top but the grid place should of been swopped over, as it was in Valencia.

I would as go as far to say that if had been prost on pole in his ferrari that grid place would of been swopped over.

I was only 5 years old then tho so i don't know if the FIA was as anti-mclaren as they are now

[Tony_sa]

Oh crap !!! appears like he collected himself and managed to get some composure back

[AKR]

When have i ever come out saying i wanted Hekki or Lewis to Ram a ferrari never! Yet you go on about it loads.

You don't need to say. As I said I speak my mind, you don't. Umm let me see. So what did you think of the way Ayrton Senna won the championship over Alain Prost in 1990? Forget about what happend the year before. Senna took out Prost on that first corner of Suzuka and claims the title and Senna admitted doing it on purpose. Do you accept that win Longbow? I am quite sure you do and I dont want to hear the reasons as to why it happened, and why it was dismmissed and who Balestre favoured. I by all means don't take the win away from Senna as he was the 1990 World Champion. I unlike McLarenites don't say but we should of won and you guys cheated etc. But my question to you is that after Senna admitted doing this and winning the title by taking out Prost, do you accept that as moral victory? Think carefully before you answer as you may strongly contradict yourself.

I'd watch the interview that senna gave after doing that to understand why he did it.

It was abit extreme and over the top but the grid place should of been swopped over, as it was in Valencia.

I would as go as far to say that if had been prost on pole in his ferrari that grid place would of been swopped over.

I was only 5 years old then tho so i don't know if the FIA was as anti-mclaren as they are now

Ah but you haven't answered my question which I knew you wouldn't. My question wasn't about who was at fault. I clearly said that as well. Under no circumstance do I say that Senna shouldn't of won. My question is that under the fact that Senna took out Prost delibrately, do you accept that as a moral win or is it what you call a "Shallow" win?

[Tony_sa]

give him time .......i think he looking it up first. should be somewhere on the net.

ps.

glad u b ok

[Gaz]

When have i ever come out saying i wanted Hekki or Lewis to Ram a ferrari never! Yet you go on about it loads.

You don't need to say. As I said I speak my mind, you don't. Umm let me see. So what did you think of the way Ayrton Senna won the championship over Alain Prost in 1990? Forget about what happend the year before. Senna took out Prost on that first corner of Suzuka and claims the title and Senna admitted doing it on purpose. Do you accept that win Longbow? I am quite sure you do and I dont want to hear the reasons as to why it happened, and why it was dismmissed and who Balestre favoured. I by all means don't take the win away from Senna as he was the 1990 World Champion. I unlike McLarenites don't say but we should of won and you guys cheated etc. But my question to you is that after Senna admitted doing this and winning the title by taking out Prost, do you accept that as moral victory? Think carefully before you answer as you may strongly contradict yourself.

I'd watch the interview that senna gave after doing that to understand why he did it.

It was abit extreme and over the top but the grid place should of been swopped over, as it was in Valencia.

I would as go as far to say that if had been prost on pole in his ferrari that grid place would of been swopped over.

I was only 5 years old then tho so i don't know if the FIA was as anti-mclaren as they are now

Ah but you haven't answered my question which I knew you wouldn't. My question wasn't about who was at fault. I clearly said that as well. Under no circumstance do I say that Senna shouldn't of won. My question is that under the fact that Senna took out Prost delibrately, do you accept that as a moral win or is it what you call a "Shallow" win?

You see, its a different circumstance its not like Shui on Hill its a case of senna making a protest.

it wasn't a shallow win no, but but it wasn't 100% moral.

I would of at least liked to see him try to take him on the track.

[Gaz]

give him time .......i think he looking it up first. should be somewhere on the net.

ps.

glad u b ok

listen clutchplate just because your first car was a cortina that you painted a ferrari badge on don't mean you know formula one, or understand it

btw, is the mountain still where it in capetown? or has it moved

[AKR]

You see, its a different circumstance its not like Shui on Hill its a case of senna making a protest.

it wasn't a shallow win no, but but it wasn't 100% moral.

I would of at least liked to see him try to take him on the track.

Ahh of course, but you still accept it as a McLaren deserved win of course. But I don't blame you. I would as well for Ferrari. (You already knew that of course). Once again I can admit to it openly, you I had to get that out of you but very you have admitted it indirectly. You are no different to me in your thinking, fact.

[bud]

You see, its a different circumstance its not like Shui on Hill its a case of senna making a protest.

it wasn't a shallow win no, but but it wasn't 100% moral.

I would of at least liked to see him try to take him on the track.

Ahh of course, but you still accept it as a McLaren deserved win of course. But I don't blame you. I would as well for Ferrari. (You already knew that of course). Once again I can admit to it openly, you I had to get that out of you but very you have admitted it indirectly. You are no different to me in your thinking, fact.

You ALWAYS bring up 1990 because it was Prost in a Ferrari, yet you never acknowledge what happened the previous year when Prost was in a McLaren

[Gaz]

You see, its a different circumstance its not like Shui on Hill its a case of senna making a protest.

it wasn't a shallow win no, but but it wasn't 100% moral.

I would of at least liked to see him try to take him on the track.

Ahh of course, but you still accept it as a McLaren deserved win of course. But I don't blame you. I would as well for Ferrari. (You already knew that of course). Once again I can admit to it openly, you I had to get that out of you but very you have admitted it indirectly. You are no different to me in your thinking, fact.

No, i'm sorry your putting words in my mouth there AKR,


what is said was i don't believe its 100% Moral and i would of perfered to see a race and a battle rather than a crash.

What are your thoughts on Hill vs Schui? was that the right thing to do after what Williams had been though that year?

[AKR]

You see, its a different circumstance its not like Shui on Hill its a case of senna making a protest.

it wasn't a shallow win no, but but it wasn't 100% moral.

I would of at least liked to see him try to take him on the track.

Ahh of course, but you still accept it as a McLaren deserved win of course. But I don't blame you. I would as well for Ferrari. (You already knew that of course). Once again I can admit to it openly, you I had to get that out of you but very you have admitted it indirectly. You are no different to me in your thinking, fact.

You ALWAYS bring up 1990 because it was Prost in a Ferrari, yet you never acknowledge what happened the previous year when Prost was in a McLaren

The 1989 incident cannot be relevant to what my discussion is about. You McLarenites claim that Ferraristas like myself will accept any type of win. I claim that you are the same and that the 1990 incident is an example of this. Now how can I use the 1989 incident as an example if both Senna and Prost were at McLaren then? My argument isn't about the actual drivers Prost and Senna and who was at fault during both incidents of 1989 and 1990. It was about weather you McLarenites accept what happened in 1990 as a moral victory. Please dont move away from the point I am making. Once again I will state that by no means do I suggest that Senna shouldn't of won in 1990.

[Tony_sa]

Longbow.

Far be it from me to explain to you that there really not much to understand. the actual reason why you think there is seems to explain why you feel a little inferior when it appears someone else might know a little more than you about nothing and you cant take it. you then go to any lengh to make a fool of yourself. you need to chill . life really not as hard as you making it out to be. try some other interests as well... like knitting - that just may fulfill you.
Really ... what would be your motivation to make people believe you know something about nothing anyway. maybe a egotrip or something. whatever it is I dont get it. Maybe you should grow up and start drinking!!!!!!!!!!