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By AKR
#68933
McLaren's car development has been great as well this year. You could make a case for both ways in that regard, I suppose. That they should have been faster out of the box, so the team don't deserve the championship, or that they rallied brilliantly to overhaul Ferrari's performance advantage and should get it for that achievement alone. After last year as well, the team did much better than I expected, certainly in the second part of the season, for I thought the $100,000,000 fine would manifest itself in the development of the MP4-23. As a team, McLaren have so far done better than Ferrari. The problem for McLaren is that Kovalainen has not kept his side of the bargain, so the work of the management, engineers, production staff, test drivers etc. has been pissed up against a wall.


So based on Heikki's not so good perfermance (You sort of point that out) then if worst comes to worst, Ferrari takes the constructors and McLaren/Lewis Hamilton take the drivers......... Camon Chris how about it. :thumbup:

For me, the constructors' championship is what counts. It's nice to get them both, certainly, but I would swap the drivers' title for the constructors' title every time. No deal, Kiki, I'm afraid. :D


I was affraid you would say that Chris.....Oh well lets see what happens then. It wasn't like you and I could really of decided who wins what anyway. :D
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By nolaquest
#68973
Anyone take issue with the fuel delivery system itself? While ultimately it is the pit crews resposibility to make sure it is safe for the driver to go, it seems there have been an aweful lot of fuel delivery mess ups up and down the pit lane all season. These systems are specified by FIA if I am not mistaken and they're flaw seems to be that they are difficult to handle. Also, previously this season when it happened before the overly complicated looking mechanism was not all that great at containing the fuel as I recall small fires too. Not an issue in Singapore but these things seem to be as much trouble as they are safe.
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By sprinter
#68996
I don't think it's MAssa's fault at all. They showed the light was green and meaning Massa is ready to go. Still, that light is not accurate and safe for mechanics and the drivers. Thank God no one got hurt really really bad. Like Massa's said to the media, we're only humans and we ALL make mistakes.
By The_Formula
#69289
I don't think it's MAssa's fault at all. They showed the light was green and meaning Massa is ready to go. Still, that light is not accurate and safe for mechanics and the drivers. Thank God no one got hurt really really bad. Like Massa's said to the media, we're only humans and we ALL make mistakes.

Bring back the lollypop - I think the 'human' error came in the form of the mechanics complacency in the automated system doing it's job. That split second lapse of concentration cost Massa :banghead: I wonder if he'l get the sympathy contract extension if we don't pull it out of the bag :confused: Kubica has to be on the Radar though
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By Ferrarista
#69375
I don't think it's MAssa's fault at all. They showed the light was green and meaning Massa is ready to go. Still, that light is not accurate and safe for mechanics and the drivers. Thank God no one got hurt really really bad. Like Massa's said to the media, we're only humans and we ALL make mistakes.


Those 8, 9 or ten seconds are like hours for the drivers waiting while pitting ... so if the green light pop-up, they just hit the pedal ... Massa didn't do anything wrong. After this mistake Massa was struggling and he began to make his own mistake. And that's the weak point of Felipe...in these sort of situation he fails to react correctly...
Like I wrote before, it's a quality to be that fast in qualifications ! Let him start from pole and the chances he takes the victory is pretty big. But racing at the back of the grid isn't his speciality ... I have to admit that's a strenght of Lewis.

It's still 'good' human are allowed to makes mistakes. I hope they lurned their lesson and hit back hard the next three GP's !!!

Forza Ferrari!!!!
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By racechick
#69376
I don't think it's MAssa's fault at all. They showed the light was green and meaning Massa is ready to go. Still, that light is not accurate and safe for mechanics and the drivers. Thank God no one got hurt really really bad. Like Massa's said to the media, we're only humans and we ALL make mistakes.


Those 8, 9 or ten seconds are like hours for the drivers waiting while pitting ... so if the green light pop-up, they just hit the pedal ... Massa didn't do anything wrong. After this mistake Massa was struggling and he began to make his own mistake. And that's the weak point of Felipe...in these sort of situation he fails to react correctly...
Like I wrote before, it's a quality to be that fast in qualifications ! Let him start from pole and the chances he takes the victory is pretty big. But racing at the back of the grid isn't his speciality ... I have to admit that's a strenght of Lewis.

It's still 'good' human are allowed to makes mistakes. I hope they lurned their lesson and hit back hard the next three GP's !!!

Forza Ferrari!!!!


I find myself agreeing with you completely (apart from the bit about next 3 GP's :yikes: )
I dont often find myself agreeing with Ferrari folk..but there you go :wink:
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By Ferrarista
#69377
I don't think it's MAssa's fault at all. They showed the light was green and meaning Massa is ready to go. Still, that light is not accurate and safe for mechanics and the drivers. Thank God no one got hurt really really bad. Like Massa's said to the media, we're only humans and we ALL make mistakes.


Those 8, 9 or ten seconds are like hours for the drivers waiting while pitting ... so if the green light pop-up, they just hit the pedal ... Massa didn't do anything wrong. After this mistake Massa was struggling and he began to make his own mistake. And that's the weak point of Felipe...in these sort of situation he fails to react correctly...
Like I wrote before, it's a quality to be that fast in qualifications ! Let him start from pole and the chances he takes the victory is pretty big. But racing at the back of the grid isn't his speciality ... I have to admit that's a strenght of Lewis.

It's still 'good' human are allowed to makes mistakes. I hope they lurned their lesson and hit back hard the next three GP's !!!

Forza Ferrari!!!!


I find myself agreeing with you completely (apart from the bit about next 3 GP's :yikes: )
I dont often find myself agreeing with Ferrari folk..but there you go :wink:


So you see...mature convertsations between Ferrari -and Mclaren fans do exist :clap:
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By texasmr2
#73276
is this in Singapore? if its is its not massa fault... :nono:


Why do you keep attaching that on ^ :confused:

Dont worry it should be:wink::wink: the last time we see it.
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By KyrosV
#73279
is this in Singapore? if its is its not massa fault... :nono:


Why do you keep attaching that on ^ :confused:

Dont worry it should be:wink::wink: the last time we see it.


I sure hope those 2 guys in your avatar didnt have anything to do with it >>>>>>>>>
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By texasmr2
#73312
is this in Singapore? if its is its not massa fault... :nono:


Why do you keep attaching that on ^ :confused:

Dont worry it should be:wink::wink: the last time we see it.


I sure hope those 2 guys in your avatar didnt have anything to do with it >>>>>>>>>

Naw I'm very peaceful by nature :hehe: .
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By Hanwombat
#73314
is this in Singapore? if its is its not massa fault... :nono:


Why do you keep attaching that on ^ :confused:

Dont worry it should be:wink::wink: the last time we see it.

guddddd

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