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#73127
It seems that some dont understand that for us it's just entertainment but for the drivers it's life or death(worst case), so they are in a better position to comment on Hamiltons driving. Here's Kubicas take on the matter:

"RK: I think there is nothing more to comment on. When one driver is overtaking another one and crossing his line just in front of his wheel, it’s quite dangerous, especially if someone behind has to lift off. I have been involved in an accident in a similar situation in Canada and I know what it means when a front wheel hits a rear wheel and from my point of view it’s quite dangerous. I just say this: while nothing happens everything is fine but if something happens then I think everyone will realise. That’s all. We haven’t spoken. I didn’t make a comment about Lewis, I just said overall that these kinds of moves are pretty dangerous, especially in wet conditions. That’s all."
#73129
It seems that some dont understand that for us it's just entertainment but for the drivers it's life or death(worst case), so they are in a better position to comment on Hamiltons driving. Here's Kubicas take on the matter:

"RK: I think there is nothing more to comment on. When one driver is overtaking another one and crossing his line just in front of his wheel, it’s quite dangerous, especially if someone behind has to lift off. I have been involved in an accident in a similar situation in Canada and I know what it means when a front wheel hits a rear wheel and from my point of view it’s quite dangerous. I just say this: while nothing happens everything is fine but if something happens then I think everyone will realise. That’s all. We haven’t spoken. I didn’t make a comment about Lewis, I just said overall that these kinds of moves are pretty dangerous, especially in wet conditions. That’s all."


Didnt he force Kimi off in the last race?? :rolleyes:
#73130
It seems that some dont understand that for us it's just entertainment but for the drivers it's life or death(worst case), so they are in a better position to comment on Hamiltons driving. Here's Kubicas take on the matter:

"RK: I think there is nothing more to comment on. When one driver is overtaking another one and crossing his line just in front of his wheel, it’s quite dangerous, especially if someone behind has to lift off. I have been involved in an accident in a similar situation in Canada and I know what it means when a front wheel hits a rear wheel and from my point of view it’s quite dangerous. I just say this: while nothing happens everything is fine but if something happens then I think everyone will realise. That’s all. We haven’t spoken. I didn’t make a comment about Lewis, I just said overall that these kinds of moves are pretty dangerous, especially in wet conditions. That’s all."


Didnt he force Kimi off in the last race?? :rolleyes:


No, both held their lines and Kimi said he knew he'd have to run wide if neither lifted, which they didn't.
#73131
It seems that some dont understand that for us it's just entertainment but for the drivers it's life or death(worst case), so they are in a better position to comment on Hamiltons driving. Here's Kubicas take on the matter:

"RK: I think there is nothing more to comment on. When one driver is overtaking another one and crossing his line just in front of his wheel, it’s quite dangerous, especially if someone behind has to lift off. I have been involved in an accident in a similar situation in Canada and I know what it means when a front wheel hits a rear wheel and from my point of view it’s quite dangerous. I just say this: while nothing happens everything is fine but if something happens then I think everyone will realise. That’s all. We haven’t spoken. I didn’t make a comment about Lewis, I just said overall that these kinds of moves are pretty dangerous, especially in wet conditions. That’s all."


Didnt he force Kimi off in the last race?? :rolleyes:


Same old tune. Everytime a driver, far more qualified than you are, states that Hamilton has done something wrong...you dig up something that driver made a mistake on and say, "SEE? He is just jealous!"

Tell you what, lets take a stack of hundred pound notes each (can't use dollars, they are worth less and less every day). We will sit in front of the tele and run through this seasons races on Tivo. For every time Hamilton cuts someone off, runs them off the track or does something stupid (rear end in pit lane etc), you hand me a hundred. You pick any other driver on the grid...any of them...and for every time they have done something equal, I will hand you a hundred. By the end of that educational experience, you will understand why drivers are complaining about Hamilton. You will understand why SPEED's commentary team said he was dangerous and out of control...and you will be broke. :D

Money where your mouth is.....
#73133

Same old tune. Everytime a driver, far more qualified than you are, states that Hamilton has done something wrong...you dig up something that driver made a mistake on and say, "SEE? He is just jealous!"

Tell you what, lets take a stack of hundred pound notes each (can't use dollars, they are worth less and less every day). We will sit in front of the tele and run through this seasons races on Tivo. For every time Hamilton cuts someone off, runs them off the track or does something stupid (rear end in pit lane etc), you hand me a hundred. You pick any other driver on the grid...any of them...and for every time they have done something equal, I will hand you a hundred. By the end of that educational experience, you will understand why drivers are complaining about Hamilton. You will understand why SPEED's commentary team said he was dangerous and out of control...and you will be broke. :D

Money where your mouth is.....


Hilarious, and unfortunately, true!
#73134
Bill from Denver - nice one, really nice. Nothing can tell more than money :~)

But that's true. Hamilton is a very good driver, there is no question about. He still need to use more brain on track and respect other more. Then again, if you have a top car you may start to believe that rest of pack is non existing. He never was in the middle, which just making it worst.
#73135
It seems that some dont understand that for us it's just entertainment but for the drivers it's life or death(worst case), so they are in a better position to comment on Hamiltons driving. Here's Kubicas take on the matter:

"RK: I think there is nothing more to comment on. When one driver is overtaking another one and crossing his line just in front of his wheel, it’s quite dangerous, especially if someone behind has to lift off. I have been involved in an accident in a similar situation in Canada and I know what it means when a front wheel hits a rear wheel and from my point of view it’s quite dangerous. I just say this: while nothing happens everything is fine but if something happens then I think everyone will realise. That’s all. We haven’t spoken. I didn’t make a comment about Lewis, I just said overall that these kinds of moves are pretty dangerous, especially in wet conditions. That’s all."


Didnt he force Kimi off in the last race?? :rolleyes:


No, both held their lines and Kimi said he knew he'd have to run wide if neither lifted, which they didn't.


Hold line/drive off track/drive off track/hold line. Same thing
#73137
It seems that some dont understand that for us it's just entertainment but for the drivers it's life or death(worst case), so they are in a better position to comment on Hamiltons driving. Here's Kubicas take on the matter:

"RK: I think there is nothing more to comment on. When one driver is overtaking another one and crossing his line just in front of his wheel, it’s quite dangerous, especially if someone behind has to lift off. I have been involved in an accident in a similar situation in Canada and I know what it means when a front wheel hits a rear wheel and from my point of view it’s quite dangerous. I just say this: while nothing happens everything is fine but if something happens then I think everyone will realise. That’s all. We haven’t spoken. I didn’t make a comment about Lewis, I just said overall that these kinds of moves are pretty dangerous, especially in wet conditions. That’s all."


Didnt he force Kimi off in the last race?? :rolleyes:


Same old tune. Everytime a driver, far more qualified than you are, states that Hamilton has done something wrong...you dig up something that driver made a mistake on and say, "SEE? He is just jealous!"

Tell you what, lets take a stack of hundred pound notes each (can't use dollars, they are worth less and less every day). We will sit in front of the tele and run through this seasons races on Tivo. For every time Hamilton cuts someone off, runs them off the track or does something stupid (rear end in pit lane etc), you hand me a hundred. You pick any other driver on the grid...any of them...and for every time they have done something equal, I will hand you a hundred. By the end of that educational experience, you will understand why drivers are complaining about Hamilton. You will understand why SPEED's commentary team said he was dangerous and out of control...and you will be broke. :D

Money where your mouth is.....


I dont listen to speed and dont really care what the comentators say. Some commentators say Lewis is like Senna do you take their word as gospel too??
Drivers doing stupid things-Coulthard, Alonso, Massa, Kimmi, Piquet, to name but a few who come immediately to mind

ps I didnt just dig something up, it hapenned last race
#73139
why are they bringing this up now. If it was such an issue, should it have been address earlier or is it gotten to a point where these drivers can't take it anymore (two races left).

You know what. I am a pessimist now. No one will let Hamilton win without controversy. If there are problems let the stewards raise them. If justified let him pay the price. If not, then let everyone get on the FIA for being incompetent.

Now its the f***ing drivers.

Its all a conspiracy for me now. No North American race. I hope the economy kills F1 as it stands right now. And like a phoenix something else better comes of it.

F1 is more dramatic off the track than it is on the track. It is not the way it should be folks!
#73143
It seems that some dont understand that for us it's just entertainment but for the drivers it's life or death(worst case), so they are in a better position to comment on Hamiltons driving. Here's Kubicas take on the matter:

"RK: I think there is nothing more to comment on. When one driver is overtaking another one and crossing his line just in front of his wheel, it’s quite dangerous, especially if someone behind has to lift off. I have been involved in an accident in a similar situation in Canada and I know what it means when a front wheel hits a rear wheel and from my point of view it’s quite dangerous. I just say this: while nothing happens everything is fine but if something happens then I think everyone will realise. That’s all. We haven’t spoken. I didn’t make a comment about Lewis, I just said overall that these kinds of moves are pretty dangerous, especially in wet conditions. That’s all."


Didnt he force Kimi off in the last race?? :rolleyes:


Same old tune. Everytime a driver, far more qualified than you are, states that Hamilton has done something wrong...you dig up something that driver made a mistake on and say, "SEE? He is just jealous!"

Tell you what, lets take a stack of hundred pound notes each (can't use dollars, they are worth less and less every day). We will sit in front of the tele and run through this seasons races on Tivo. For every time Hamilton cuts someone off, runs them off the track or does something stupid (rear end in pit lane etc), you hand me a hundred. You pick any other driver on the grid...any of them...and for every time they have done something equal, I will hand you a hundred. By the end of that educational experience, you will understand why drivers are complaining about Hamilton. You will understand why SPEED's commentary team said he was dangerous and out of control...and you will be broke. :D

Money where your mouth is.....


Oh come on, stop trying to be hardcore. You're hardly putting your 'money where your mouth is' by promising to play this hundred pound game with a lady from another continent who you're never going to meet...and i'd put a little bet on Coulthard having more mishaps than Lewis this season, but that's just an inkling, might not be right. Anyway, you're so anti-Hamilton and it's such a subjective thing that you'd probably see twice the number of cases of bad driving than the average person.

Oh, lastly, we don't have hundred pound bills, so this game would probably be a non-starter...
#73169
It seems that some dont understand that for us it's just entertainment but for the drivers it's life or death(worst case), so they are in a better position to comment on Hamiltons driving. Here's Kubicas take on the matter:

"RK: I think there is nothing more to comment on. When one driver is overtaking another one and crossing his line just in front of his wheel, it’s quite dangerous, especially if someone behind has to lift off. I have been involved in an accident in a similar situation in Canada and I know what it means when a front wheel hits a rear wheel and from my point of view it’s quite dangerous. I just say this: while nothing happens everything is fine but if something happens then I think everyone will realise. That’s all. We haven’t spoken. I didn’t make a comment about Lewis, I just said overall that these kinds of moves are pretty dangerous, especially in wet conditions. That’s all."


Didnt he force Kimi off in the last race?? :rolleyes:


No, both held their lines and Kimi said he knew he'd have to run wide if neither lifted, which they didn't.


Hold line/drive off track/drive off track/hold line. Same thing


No, it is not. Hamilton changes his lines on straights and in braking zones to force people off the track.

I can't believe how arrogant some of you are. Current drivers, former world champions and TV commentators are saying that Hamilton is too agressive and is causing dangerous situations on track and here you are thinking you know better.

They also say he needs to learn from his mistakes and quick but it sounds like he's not doing that:

"Q. Has your approach changed from last weekend to how you approach this weekend’s race?

LH: No.

Q. So what is the general approach then?

LH: The same as always."

Is he just a dumb SOB or too proud to say, "yes, I've learned from my mistakes and have changed my approach. I'm not going to try to win at all costs now that the championship is at stake".
#73198
I don't know what the drivers think they are going to accomplish by this, but whatever. Hamilton did drive like a twat in Monza, but get over it and move on. I think some of the panalties Hammy has been awarded would not have been given to other drivers, but he is showing a tendancy to not care who he pushes off track and how he does it, as long as he comes out in front, which leads other drivers to take liberties with him (Massa recently) and promotes unsafe driving. I think the FIA is on it, and doing all they can to bring hamilton under control while also not allowing others to get dangerous with him (Massa penalty). Governing bodies are never appreciated, it's a thankless job but I think the FIA is at least trying to keep all of them safe(ish), but if a driver is out shoving people in the grass on straights, chopping accross rivals front ends on straights just to be a jerk and causing all kinds of strife on the track, well they can't just sit and wait until someone gets killed before they step in, they have to give out penalties to bring him back in line. Otherwise, we might as well put bumpers on the cars as well as viagra stickers and start calling it Nascar Open Wheel (NOW).


Sick of all this whining from drivers and other fans ffs its RACING not Crochet If there's abit of Wheel bashing then ah well.

Lewis did not drive like a twat in Monza he drove like a racing driver who wanted to race, now if there's an example of driving like a twat its Massa in China on 3 occasion he did somthing very stupid and hit two of his fellow drivers twice!

I've not seen Lewis do anything like that.

Honestly if you don't want to watch cars race then go watch the motorway


So professional F1 drivers who've been appointed by other drivers to lead GPDA have a problem with how Hamilton acts on track yet there's still people who deny he's done anything wrong what so ever? Strong denial.


The F1 drivers are not judges, the Strewards are they did nothing didn't even investigate as far as i know.

It was racing get over it
#73230
I rarely post to forums, but I thought I would correct the statement made above about the US SpeedTV coverage of F1. I am an Englishman living in USA and watch every F1 race, practice, quali on SpeedTV and I have NEVER heard any of the commentators say that Hamilton's driving is dangerous. By the way, I'm on the east coast and I pick Massa for the betting game. You'd better bring a BIG stack of bills!

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