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#72994
I haven't seen anything dangerous or illegal from Hamilton. At least Webber still thinks Hamilton was responsible for his accident in last season's Japanese Grand. So, he only managed to blame Vettel for several days. :rolleyes:
#73008
I don't know what the drivers think they are going to accomplish by this, but whatever. Hamilton did drive like a twat in Monza, but get over it and move on. I think some of the panalties Hammy has been awarded would not have been given to other drivers, but he is showing a tendancy to not care who he pushes off track and how he does it, as long as he comes out in front, which leads other drivers to take liberties with him (Massa recently) and promotes unsafe driving. I think the FIA is on it, and doing all they can to bring hamilton under control while also not allowing others to get dangerous with him (Massa penalty). Governing bodies are never appreciated, it's a thankless job but I think the FIA is at least trying to keep all of them safe(ish), but if a driver is out shoving people in the grass on straights, chopping accross rivals front ends on straights just to be a jerk and causing all kinds of strife on the track, well they can't just sit and wait until someone gets killed before they step in, they have to give out penalties to bring him back in line. Otherwise, we might as well put bumpers on the cars as well as viagra stickers and start calling it Nascar Open Wheel (NOW).
#73037
I don't know what the drivers think they are going to accomplish by this, but whatever. Hamilton did drive like a twat in Monza, but get over it and move on. I think some of the panalties Hammy has been awarded would not have been given to other drivers, but he is showing a tendancy to not care who he pushes off track and how he does it, as long as he comes out in front, which leads other drivers to take liberties with him (Massa recently) and promotes unsafe driving. I think the FIA is on it, and doing all they can to bring hamilton under control while also not allowing others to get dangerous with him (Massa penalty). Governing bodies are never appreciated, it's a thankless job but I think the FIA is at least trying to keep all of them safe(ish), but if a driver is out shoving people in the grass on straights, chopping accross rivals front ends on straights just to be a jerk and causing all kinds of strife on the track, well they can't just sit and wait until someone gets killed before they step in, they have to give out penalties to bring him back in line. Otherwise, we might as well put bumpers on the cars as well as viagra stickers and start calling it Nascar Open Wheel (NOW).

AMEN :thumbup::thumbup:
#73078
I don't know what the drivers think they are going to accomplish by this, but whatever. Hamilton did drive like a twat in Monza, but get over it and move on. I think some of the panalties Hammy has been awarded would not have been given to other drivers, but he is showing a tendancy to not care who he pushes off track and how he does it, as long as he comes out in front, which leads other drivers to take liberties with him (Massa recently) and promotes unsafe driving. I think the FIA is on it, and doing all they can to bring hamilton under control while also not allowing others to get dangerous with him (Massa penalty). Governing bodies are never appreciated, it's a thankless job but I think the FIA is at least trying to keep all of them safe(ish), but if a driver is out shoving people in the grass on straights, chopping accross rivals front ends on straights just to be a jerk and causing all kinds of strife on the track, well they can't just sit and wait until someone gets killed before they step in, they have to give out penalties to bring him back in line. Otherwise, we might as well put bumpers on the cars as well as viagra stickers and start calling it Nascar Open Wheel (NOW).


Sick of all this whining from drivers and other fans ffs its RACING not Crochet If there's abit of Wheel bashing then ah well.

Lewis did not drive like a twat in Monza he drove like a racing driver who wanted to race, now if there's an example of driving like a twat its Massa in China on 3 occasion he did somthing very stupid and hit two of his fellow drivers twice!

I've not seen Lewis do anything like that.

Honestly if you don't want to watch cars race then go watch the motorway
#73082
I don't know what the drivers think they are going to accomplish by this, but whatever. Hamilton did drive like a twat in Monza, but get over it and move on. I think some of the panalties Hammy has been awarded would not have been given to other drivers, but he is showing a tendancy to not care who he pushes off track and how he does it, as long as he comes out in front, which leads other drivers to take liberties with him (Massa recently) and promotes unsafe driving. I think the FIA is on it, and doing all they can to bring hamilton under control while also not allowing others to get dangerous with him (Massa penalty). Governing bodies are never appreciated, it's a thankless job but I think the FIA is at least trying to keep all of them safe(ish), but if a driver is out shoving people in the grass on straights, chopping accross rivals front ends on straights just to be a jerk and causing all kinds of strife on the track, well they can't just sit and wait until someone gets killed before they step in, they have to give out penalties to bring him back in line. Otherwise, we might as well put bumpers on the cars as well as viagra stickers and start calling it Nascar Open Wheel (NOW).


Sick of all this whining from drivers and other fans ffs its RACING not Crochet If there's abit of Wheel bashing then ah well.

Lewis did not drive like a twat in Monza he drove like a racing driver who wanted to race, now if there's an example of driving like a twat its Massa in China on 3 occasion he did somthing very stupid and hit two of his fellow drivers twice!

I've not seen Lewis do anything like that.

Honestly if you don't want to watch cars race then go watch the motorway


I'd say what he did to Webber at Monza was towards the extreme. There was no need for it and Webber would've been entitled to have stayed on-track and let Lewis' race end there and then.
#73083
I don't know what the drivers think they are going to accomplish by this, but whatever. Hamilton did drive like a twat in Monza, but get over it and move on. I think some of the panalties Hammy has been awarded would not have been given to other drivers, but he is showing a tendancy to not care who he pushes off track and how he does it, as long as he comes out in front, which leads other drivers to take liberties with him (Massa recently) and promotes unsafe driving. I think the FIA is on it, and doing all they can to bring hamilton under control while also not allowing others to get dangerous with him (Massa penalty). Governing bodies are never appreciated, it's a thankless job but I think the FIA is at least trying to keep all of them safe(ish), but if a driver is out shoving people in the grass on straights, chopping accross rivals front ends on straights just to be a jerk and causing all kinds of strife on the track, well they can't just sit and wait until someone gets killed before they step in, they have to give out penalties to bring him back in line. Otherwise, we might as well put bumpers on the cars as well as viagra stickers and start calling it Nascar Open Wheel (NOW).


Sick of all this whining from drivers and other fans ffs its RACING not Crochet If there's abit of Wheel bashing then ah well.

Lewis did not drive like a twat in Monza he drove like a racing driver who wanted to race, now if there's an example of driving like a twat its Massa in China on 3 occasion he did somthing very stupid and hit two of his fellow drivers twice!

I've not seen Lewis do anything like that.

Honestly if you don't want to watch cars race then go watch the motorway


I'd say what he did to Webber at Monza was towards the extreme. There was no need for it and Webber would've been entitled to have stayed on-track and let Lewis' race end there and then.


oh come on webber was trying to over take him and if anything it was abit of both really neither wanted to give way.
#73084
I don't know what the drivers think they are going to accomplish by this, but whatever. Hamilton did drive like a twat in Monza, but get over it and move on. I think some of the panalties Hammy has been awarded would not have been given to other drivers, but he is showing a tendancy to not care who he pushes off track and how he does it, as long as he comes out in front, which leads other drivers to take liberties with him (Massa recently) and promotes unsafe driving. I think the FIA is on it, and doing all they can to bring hamilton under control while also not allowing others to get dangerous with him (Massa penalty). Governing bodies are never appreciated, it's a thankless job but I think the FIA is at least trying to keep all of them safe(ish), but if a driver is out shoving people in the grass on straights, chopping accross rivals front ends on straights just to be a jerk and causing all kinds of strife on the track, well they can't just sit and wait until someone gets killed before they step in, they have to give out penalties to bring him back in line. Otherwise, we might as well put bumpers on the cars as well as viagra stickers and start calling it Nascar Open Wheel (NOW).


Sick of all this whining from drivers and other fans ffs its RACING not Crochet If there's abit of Wheel bashing then ah well.

Lewis did not drive like a twat in Monza he drove like a racing driver who wanted to race, now if there's an example of driving like a twat its Massa in China on 3 occasion he did somthing very stupid and hit two of his fellow drivers twice!

I've not seen Lewis do anything like that.

Honestly if you don't want to watch cars race then go watch the motorway


I'd say what he did to Webber at Monza was towards the extreme. There was no need for it and Webber would've been entitled to have stayed on-track and let Lewis' race end there and then.


oh come on webber was trying to over take him and if anything it was abit of both really neither wanted to give way.


Regardless of whether he was the one trying to pass or the one who was trying to be passed (and yes, I acknowledge that it was the former), he was on what most would consider the racing line, had more than half of his car alongside Hamilton and looked to be able to take more speed in to the corner. By pushing Webber off the track (unnecessarily) Hamilton caused Webber to lose a lot of ground, having spent the past laps closing the gap to the McLaren.
#73106
I don't know what the drivers think they are going to accomplish by this, but whatever. Hamilton did drive like a twat in Monza, but get over it and move on. I think some of the panalties Hammy has been awarded would not have been given to other drivers, but he is showing a tendancy to not care who he pushes off track and how he does it, as long as he comes out in front, which leads other drivers to take liberties with him (Massa recently) and promotes unsafe driving. I think the FIA is on it, and doing all they can to bring hamilton under control while also not allowing others to get dangerous with him (Massa penalty). Governing bodies are never appreciated, it's a thankless job but I think the FIA is at least trying to keep all of them safe(ish), but if a driver is out shoving people in the grass on straights, chopping accross rivals front ends on straights just to be a jerk and causing all kinds of strife on the track, well they can't just sit and wait until someone gets killed before they step in, they have to give out penalties to bring him back in line. Otherwise, we might as well put bumpers on the cars as well as viagra stickers and start calling it Nascar Open Wheel (NOW).


Sick of all this whining from drivers and other fans ffs its RACING not Crochet If there's abit of Wheel bashing then ah well.

Lewis did not drive like a twat in Monza he drove like a racing driver who wanted to race, now if there's an example of driving like a twat its Massa in China on 3 occasion he did somthing very stupid and hit two of his fellow drivers twice!

I've not seen Lewis do anything like that.

Honestly if you don't want to watch cars race then go watch the motorway


I'd say what he did to Webber at Monza was towards the extreme. There was no need for it and Webber would've been entitled to have stayed on-track and let Lewis' race end there and then.


oh come on webber was trying to over take him and if anything it was abit of both really neither wanted to give way.


Regardless of whether he was the one trying to pass or the one who was trying to be passed (and yes, I acknowledge that it was the former), he was on what most would consider the racing line, had more than half of his car alongside Hamilton and looked to be able to take more speed in to the corner. By pushing Webber off the track (unnecessarily) Hamilton caused Webber to lose a lot of ground, having spent the past laps closing the gap to the McLaren.


Oh right, so he's supposed to let webber past and loose a point? no thats racing deal with it
#73109
I don't know what the drivers think they are going to accomplish by this, but whatever. Hamilton did drive like a twat in Monza, but get over it and move on. I think some of the panalties Hammy has been awarded would not have been given to other drivers, but he is showing a tendancy to not care who he pushes off track and how he does it, as long as he comes out in front, which leads other drivers to take liberties with him (Massa recently) and promotes unsafe driving. I think the FIA is on it, and doing all they can to bring hamilton under control while also not allowing others to get dangerous with him (Massa penalty). Governing bodies are never appreciated, it's a thankless job but I think the FIA is at least trying to keep all of them safe(ish), but if a driver is out shoving people in the grass on straights, chopping accross rivals front ends on straights just to be a jerk and causing all kinds of strife on the track, well they can't just sit and wait until someone gets killed before they step in, they have to give out penalties to bring him back in line. Otherwise, we might as well put bumpers on the cars as well as viagra stickers and start calling it Nascar Open Wheel (NOW).


Sick of all this whining from drivers and other fans ffs its RACING not Crochet If there's abit of Wheel bashing then ah well.

Lewis did not drive like a twat in Monza he drove like a racing driver who wanted to race, now if there's an example of driving like a twat its Massa in China on 3 occasion he did somthing very stupid and hit two of his fellow drivers twice!

I've not seen Lewis do anything like that.

Honestly if you don't want to watch cars race then go watch the motorway


I'd say what he did to Webber at Monza was towards the extreme. There was no need for it and Webber would've been entitled to have stayed on-track and let Lewis' race end there and then.


oh come on webber was trying to over take him and if anything it was abit of both really neither wanted to give way.


Regardless of whether he was the one trying to pass or the one who was trying to be passed (and yes, I acknowledge that it was the former), he was on what most would consider the racing line, had more than half of his car alongside Hamilton and looked to be able to take more speed in to the corner. By pushing Webber off the track (unnecessarily) Hamilton caused Webber to lose a lot of ground, having spent the past laps closing the gap to the McLaren.


Oh right, so he's supposed to let webber past and loose a point? no thats racing deal with it


No, but he's supposed to defend his position fairly, not just shove the guy off the track and on to the grass, in the wet. And, having gone back to watch the footage, Webber actually gets himself ahead of Hamilton going in to the corner, not just alongside as I previously mentioned. I still thought it was way over the top. The contact especially.
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#73110
I don't know what the drivers think they are going to accomplish by this, but whatever. Hamilton did drive like a twat in Monza, but get over it and move on. I think some of the panalties Hammy has been awarded would not have been given to other drivers, but he is showing a tendancy to not care who he pushes off track and how he does it, as long as he comes out in front, which leads other drivers to take liberties with him (Massa recently) and promotes unsafe driving. I think the FIA is on it, and doing all they can to bring hamilton under control while also not allowing others to get dangerous with him (Massa penalty). Governing bodies are never appreciated, it's a thankless job but I think the FIA is at least trying to keep all of them safe(ish), but if a driver is out shoving people in the grass on straights, chopping accross rivals front ends on straights just to be a jerk and causing all kinds of strife on the track, well they can't just sit and wait until someone gets killed before they step in, they have to give out penalties to bring him back in line. Otherwise, we might as well put bumpers on the cars as well as viagra stickers and start calling it Nascar Open Wheel (NOW).


Sick of all this whining from drivers and other fans ffs its RACING not Crochet If there's abit of Wheel bashing then ah well.

Lewis did not drive like a twat in Monza he drove like a racing driver who wanted to race, now if there's an example of driving like a twat its Massa in China on 3 occasion he did somthing very stupid and hit two of his fellow drivers twice!

I've not seen Lewis do anything like that.

Honestly if you don't want to watch cars race then go watch the motorway


So professional F1 drivers who've been appointed by other drivers to lead GPDA have a problem with how Hamilton acts on track yet there's still people who deny he's done anything wrong what so ever? Strong denial.
#73118
I don't know what the drivers think they are going to accomplish by this, but whatever. Hamilton did drive like a twat in Monza, but get over it and move on. I think some of the panalties Hammy has been awarded would not have been given to other drivers, but he is showing a tendancy to not care who he pushes off track and how he does it, as long as he comes out in front, which leads other drivers to take liberties with him (Massa recently) and promotes unsafe driving. I think the FIA is on it, and doing all they can to bring hamilton under control while also not allowing others to get dangerous with him (Massa penalty). Governing bodies are never appreciated, it's a thankless job but I think the FIA is at least trying to keep all of them safe(ish), but if a driver is out shoving people in the grass on straights, chopping accross rivals front ends on straights just to be a jerk and causing all kinds of strife on the track, well they can't just sit and wait until someone gets killed before they step in, they have to give out penalties to bring him back in line. Otherwise, we might as well put bumpers on the cars as well as viagra stickers and start calling it Nascar Open Wheel (NOW).


Sick of all this whining from drivers and other fans ffs its RACING not Crochet If there's abit of Wheel bashing then ah well.

Lewis did not drive like a twat in Monza he drove like a racing driver who wanted to race, now if there's an example of driving like a twat its Massa in China on 3 occasion he did somthing very stupid and hit two of his fellow drivers twice!

I've not seen Lewis do anything like that.

Honestly if you don't want to watch cars race then go watch the motorway


:clap::clap::clap: Well said. Pathetic behaviour.To pick out one driver when so many others on the track have done the same or worse... well I hope its only jealousy(as Lauda and Stewart stated) and not anything worse!!Id like to see some of them racing in Moss and Jackie's era, hard but fair and they'd also learn what dangerous really means.

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