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[welshie]

I think maybe you boys are just upset because it was a French team that was first to stand up and handle the Scuderia domination of the last few years....

What has nationality got to do with the price of cheese . . . nothing!

[bud]

A live video feed and a press release are not the same thing. Get a grip.

youre saying from a live video feed you know the whole goings on of McLaren all to how they treat their drivers????

No, I'm saying you can see how the drivers and team act in a race versus what they say.

but you just made a massive accusation disambiguating McLaren all the way down to how they run their drivers.. all from your TV feed dont grip too hard now


Welshie RenaultF1 is mostly British anyway so dunno what pot he is trying to stir

[welshie]

A live video feed and a press release are not the same thing. Get a grip.

youre saying from a live video feed you know the whole goings on of McLaren all to how they treat their drivers????

No, I'm saying you can see how the drivers and team act in a race versus what they say.

but you just made a massive accusation disambiguating McLaren all the way down to how they run their drivers.. all from your TV feed dont grip too hard now


Welshie RenaultF1 is mostly British anyway so dunno what pot he is trying to stir

It certainly is, I know a few people who work there!

[Malibu327]

Yup, just trying to stir the pot. It's the only point to most of these threads. You can't discuss which drivers are doing well or who aren't without getting something about the how the FIA has caused a world fuel crisis and starvation in Mongolia.

Well, you McLaren fanboys can each other all day if it makes you feel better, I have to get back to work. Somebody send me a message when there is something to talk about beside the Global Conspiracy.

[welshie]

Yup, just trying to stir the pot. It's the only point to most of these threads. You can't discuss which drivers are doing well or who aren't without getting something about the how the FIA has caused a world fuel crisis and starvation in Mongolia.

Well, you McLaren fanboys can each other all day if it makes you feel better, I have to get back to work. Somebody send me a message when there is something to talk about beside the Global Conspiracy.

I'm a Honda supporter

[csrracer]

So, the driver at full pace should come to a stop to let a car still getting up to speed through? Not likely.

Who said anything about stopping, be realistic Massa had the rest of the track at his disposal Bourdais had only one place he could have gone and that's where he was when Massa hit him. Since when should the driver leaving the pits have to give way to a car trying to pass him when they are fighting for position. It is the overtaking drivers responsibility to make a clean pass. There is no reason this should have been penalized, and there was no reason to wait until the race was over, it's just more FIA BS, that unfortunately was called once again in Ferrari's Favor.

[Gaz]

Yup, just trying to stir the pot. It's the only point to most of these threads. You can't discuss which drivers are doing well or who aren't without getting something about the how the FIA has caused a world fuel crisis and starvation in Mongolia.

Well, you McLaren fanboys can each other all day if it makes you feel better, I have to get back to work. Somebody send me a message when there is something to talk about beside the Global Conspiracy.

I'm a Honda supporter

LOL what a muppet you are Malibu

[Malibu327]

Being a huge Jim Henson fan, I take that as a compliment, thank you.

Look, I disagree with the penalty on Bourdais also, but you guys are being ridiculous. Seriously, go back and read your posts. If half of what you are saying is true then why would any team beside Ferrari be racing in the series? The FIA makes bad calls, Major League Baseball makes bad calls, FIFA makes bad calls, drunk guys at bars full of fat chicks make bad calls... s**t happens, especially in racing.

I'll stop yanking your chains now. Enjoy your ranting.

[Maily]

Lighten up guys, I have been stirring MISS KIMI (AKR) because she is a poor uneducated Slovenian/Italian girl, who does not know any better but to follow Ferarri, but it is all light hearted. In the end, every one of these guys who drive these cars are brilliant, and to make the decisions in the nano second that they have to make them, would be impossible for us. Let this forum be fun, and not so serious and we can all look forward to McLaren and Ducatti winning this weekend. OK GO FOR IT

[AKR]

Lol Mclaren is 25% i said roughly Equal jeez, and that may exclude 07

don't hang me over 1%

I am sure it is up to date up until very much the last race of this year or at least the second last one. If you look at Ferrari's number of total wins that is up to date so it would certainily include the 2007 season. And relax, I know it is close. I was just making the point that Ferrari is still just in front in this stat as well. By the way if it makes you happy, McLaren clearly had lead in this one stat over Ferrari until Michael Schumacher came along and just won, won and won. Oh well to be fair McLaren dominated heavily in the last 80 and early 90s with the then 2 best drivers Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost. If you look carefully the record that is shared to this day by Ferrari and McLaren, the most wins in a season which is 15, the McLaren won was achieved in 1988 which were mainily won by Senna and Prost and the Ferrari won was in 2002 mainly by Michael Schumacher plus a win or 2 by Rubens Barrichello. So they are close I know. Just don't like admitting it, you should know me well by now.

[AKR]

That last comment was a perfect example, thank you.

and youre a perfect example of a blind Ferrari sheep

Listen Brad, I was only saying half that stuff to that Maily guy as he is beyond the definiton of "rude". Whatever he through at me I through back weather I meant it or not. Unfortunality with F1 like all sports, everyone cheats. McLaren does it and so does Ferrari. It is simple. You will defend the team you love, McLaren and I like other Ferrari Tifosi will defend mine. I didn't see the stuff that has been happenning in F1 this bad and exagerated up until the 2007 season. This is when Lewis Hamilton came into the picture. I don't know what it is but maybe Max Mosley doesn't like him and wants to see him lose. May be Mosley is racist and doesn't want to see a black man win. I don't know but it wasn't this bad prior 2007. There was the odd thing happening here and there but not the extent of now. Ferrari happens to be the team that can only challenge Lewis Hamilton right now. Not even Hamilon's team mate can challenge right now. If it were Alonso at Renault Vs Hamilton for the title instead of Massa against Hamilton I bet all this contravesay would still happen and go Alonso's way. But he wouldn't be Ferrari but Renault. I think Mosley hates Hamilton and Ron Dennis for that matter and is siding with whoever it is that can come close to beating them and that team for the last 2 years just happens to be Ferrari. I don't believe Ferrari are cheats, I think it is just Mosley that is a racist prick and Ferrari unfortunitly is tangled in all this.

[AKR]

BTW i am a member of McLaren i have access to their web forum, the racingline magazine and other articles on the site that you would have no idea about.

How many times do I have to tell you???? Don't make assumptions as you don't know him meaning you don't what he does or what he belongs to. Bud you are far more intelligent than that.

[AKR]

Lighten up guys, I have been stirring MISS KIMI (AKR) because she is a poor uneducated Slovenian/Italian girl, who does not know any better but to follow Ferarri, but it is all light hearted.

Was that insult necessary? That is low, very low. Given my obvious high level of intelligance it is quite obvious you have none since you cannot work out that most of the time I am joking and just "stirring the pot" in the same way McLaren fans stir the pot back. You my be roughly double my age but I have no regrets telling you to learn to know how and when to joke and not cross the line. Bag Ferrari all you like if it pleases you but don't make this personal towards others as that is how I feel towards you right now.

[Hanwombat]

Lighten up guys, I have been stirring MISS KIMI (AKR) because she is a poor uneducated Slovenian/Italian girl, who does not know any better but to follow Ferarri, but it is all light hearted.

Was that insult necessary? That is low, very low. Given my obvious high level of intelligance it is quite obvious you have none since you cannot work out that most of the time I am joking and just "stirring the pot" in the same way McLaren fans stir the pot back. You my be roughly double my age but I have no regrets telling you to learn to know how and when to joke and not cross the line. Bag Ferrari all you like if it pleases you but don't make this personal towards others as that is how I feel towards you right now.

Maily some of your posts are a bit over the top, I do question your maturity.

[AKR]

Lighten up guys, I have been stirring MISS KIMI (AKR) because she is a poor uneducated Slovenian/Italian girl, who does not know any better but to follow Ferarri, but it is all light hearted.

Was that insult necessary? That is low, very low. Given my obvious high level of intelligance it is quite obvious you have none since you cannot work out that most of the time I am joking and just "stirring the pot" in the same way McLaren fans stir the pot back. You my be roughly double my age but I have no regrets telling you to learn to know how and when to joke and not cross the line. Bag Ferrari all you like if it pleases you but don't make this personal towards others as that is how I feel towards you right now.

Maily some of your posts are a bit over the top, I do question your maturity.

Hey Hannah, thanks for sticking up for me. Appeciated.