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#72627
Who knows, nothing would suprise me, I only started taking any notice of F1 about the middle of last year. I am even more impressed, you can write some intelligent things, even for a Ferarri follower, poor misguided young lady. Young Lady well ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Given I speak 5 languages fluently I am not surprised that I can write something intelligent. I would say it is natural. And young lady is correct................................................... By the way weather you follow Ferrari or McLaren doesn't make you more intelligent or less intelligent. Chosing Ferrari is just let me say, a path to glory and success since they are the greatest in the history of F1. Remember Ferrari are the most successful in wins and all F1 stats. The most inovative they may not have been but racing success is measured in most wins. :D


The ability to speak, does not make one intelligent.


Who do you think you are a Jedi something? That is Qui Gon Jinn's comment to Jar Jar Binks in Star Wars Episode 1.


Well your obviously a star wars fan thought it was appropriate.

lol :hehe:
#72628
Who knows, nothing would suprise me, I only started taking any notice of F1 about the middle of last year. I am even more impressed, you can write some intelligent things, even for a Ferarri follower, poor misguided young lady. Young Lady well ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Given I speak 5 languages fluently I am not surprised that I can write something intelligent. I would say it is natural. And young lady is correct................................................... By the way weather you follow Ferrari or McLaren doesn't make you more intelligent or less intelligent. Chosing Ferrari is just let me say, a path to glory and success since they are the greatest in the history of F1. Remember Ferrari are the most successful in wins and all F1 stats. The most inovative they may not have been but racing success is measured in most wins. :D


The ability to speak, does not make one intelligent.


Who do you think you are a Jedi something? That is Qui Gon Jinn's comment to Jar Jar Binks in Star Wars Episode 1.


Well your obviously a star wars fan thought it was appropriate.

lol :hehe:


Excellent thinking and comeback. Got to hand that one to you. :wink:
#72632
Who knows, nothing would suprise me, I only started taking any notice of F1 about the middle of last year. I am even more impressed, you can write some intelligent things, even for a Ferarri follower, poor misguided young lady. Young Lady well ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Given I speak 5 languages fluently I am not surprised that I can write something intelligent. I would say it is natural. And young lady is correct................................................... By the way weather you follow Ferrari or McLaren doesn't make you more intelligent or less intelligent. Chosing Ferrari is just let me say, a path to glory and success since they are the greatest in the history of F1. Remember Ferrari are the most successful in wins and all F1 stats. The most inovative they may not have been but racing success is measured in most wins. :D


its also worth noting you only have 48 more wins than Mclaren and 16 more Years.

Looking at the Wins from 50's to 66 Mclaren and exluding them so we can compare Mclaren and Ferrari 66-to 2008 they are very equal.

The ability to speak, does not make one intelligent.


Who do you think you are a Jedi something? That is Qui Gon Jinn's comment to Jar Jar Binks in Star Wars Episode 1.


Well your obviously a star wars fan thought it was appropriate.

lol :hehe:


Excellent thinking and comeback. Got to hand that one to you. :wink:



its also worth noting you only have 48 more wins than Mclaren and 16 more Years.

Looking at the Wins from 50's to 66 Mclaren and exluding them so we can compare Mclaren and Ferrari 66-to 2008 they are very equal.
#72635
Who knows, nothing would suprise me, I only started taking any notice of F1 about the middle of last year. I am even more impressed, you can write some intelligent things, even for a Ferarri follower, poor misguided young lady. Young Lady well ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Given I speak 5 languages fluently I am not surprised that I can write something intelligent. I would say it is natural. And young lady is correct................................................... By the way weather you follow Ferrari or McLaren doesn't make you more intelligent or less intelligent. Chosing Ferrari is just let me say, a path to glory and success since they are the greatest in the history of F1. Remember Ferrari are the most successful in wins and all F1 stats. The most inovative they may not have been but racing success is measured in most wins. :D


its also worth noting you only have 48 more wins than Mclaren and 16 more Years.

Looking at the Wins from 50's to 66 Mclaren and exluding them so we can compare Mclaren and Ferrari 66-to 2008 they are very equal.

The ability to speak, does not make one intelligent.


Who do you think you are a Jedi something? That is Qui Gon Jinn's comment to Jar Jar Binks in Star Wars Episode 1.


Well your obviously a star wars fan thought it was appropriate.

lol :hehe:


Excellent thinking and comeback. Got to hand that one to you. :wink:



its also worth noting you only have 48 more wins than Mclaren and 16 more Years.

Looking at the Wins from 50's to 66 Mclaren and exluding them so we can compare Mclaren and Ferrari 66-to 2008 they are very equal.


I think not. Take a look at these stats and make a note on the one I have highlighted.


The Ferrari team has achieved unparalleled success in Formula One. Ferrari cars and Ferrari drivers have also won the Mille Miglia 8 times, the Targa Florio 7 times, and the 24 hours of Le Mans 9 times. In F1, the Italian team has the unique distinction of owning nearly all significant records (as of the 2008 German Grand Prix), including:

* Most constructor championships: 15
* Most driver championships: 15
* Most wins (all-time): 208
* Most wins (season): 15 (tied with McLaren)
* Most podiums (all-time): 617
* Most podiums (season): 29
* Most pole positions (all-time): 201
* Most points (all-time): 4,887.27
* Most points (season): 262
* Most fastest laps (all-time): 215
* Highest winning percentage: ~26% (for teams with at least 10 wins) Means Ferrari has won more in wins against races competed in than McLaren.
* Most F1 fatalities: 7 (4 race, 1 qualifying, 2 testing) (THIS STAT ISN'T GOOD!!!!!!!!!!)

In 2004, Ferrari also surpassed Ford as the most successful F1 engine manufacturer, with 182 wins (to Ford's 176 wins). Due to the availability of the Cosworth V8 to private teams, a total of 6,639 Ford-powered cars were entered between 1967 and 2004, compared to 1,979 starts for Ferrari and Petronas-badged engines during the same period.
#72636

I have a consipracy that McLaren were told to lose the title last year or else by Mosley or the FIA? Don't know if it is true but McLaren were facing penalties far more savere than what they actually got for the Spygate Scandal. They probably wanted it to look close and so didn't disqualify the drivers but in all intention had already decided that Kimi was to win it. I don't know but how can anyone lose a title in in the last 2 races with a 17 point lead. All Lewis Hamilton needed was 4 points. I know he is reckless and stupid but his team and Ron Dennis surely are experienced enough not to be?



I was wondering the same thing, how many more years will they have to surrender the championship if they are leading near the end of the season.
#72637
Who knows, nothing would suprise me, I only started taking any notice of F1 about the middle of last year. I am even more impressed, you can write some intelligent things, even for a Ferarri follower, poor misguided young lady. Young Lady well ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Given I speak 5 languages fluently I am not surprised that I can write something intelligent. I would say it is natural. And young lady is correct................................................... By the way weather you follow Ferrari or McLaren doesn't make you more intelligent or less intelligent. Chosing Ferrari is just let me say, a path to glory and success since they are the greatest in the history of F1. Remember Ferrari are the most successful in wins and all F1 stats. The most inovative they may not have been but racing success is measured in most wins. :D


its also worth noting you only have 48 more wins than Mclaren and 16 more Years.

Looking at the Wins from 50's to 66 Mclaren and exluding them so we can compare Mclaren and Ferrari 66-to 2008 they are very equal.

The ability to speak, does not make one intelligent.


Who do you think you are a Jedi something? That is Qui Gon Jinn's comment to Jar Jar Binks in Star Wars Episode 1.


Well your obviously a star wars fan thought it was appropriate.

lol :hehe:


Excellent thinking and comeback. Got to hand that one to you. :wink:



its also worth noting you only have 48 more wins than Mclaren and 16 more Years.

Looking at the Wins from 50's to 66 Mclaren and exluding them so we can compare Mclaren and Ferrari 66-to 2008 they are very equal.


I think not. Take a look at these stats and make a note on the one I have highlighted.


The Ferrari team has achieved unparalleled success in Formula One. Ferrari cars and Ferrari drivers have also won the Mille Miglia 8 times, the Targa Florio 7 times, and the 24 hours of Le Mans 9 times. In F1, the Italian team has the unique distinction of owning nearly all significant records (as of the 2008 German Grand Prix), including:

* Most constructor championships: 15
* Most driver championships: 15
* Most wins (all-time): 208
* Most wins (season): 15 (tied with McLaren)
* Most podiums (all-time): 617
* Most podiums (season): 29
* Most pole positions (all-time): 201
* Most points (all-time): 4,887.27
* Most points (season): 262
* Most fastest laps (all-time): 215
* Highest winning percentage: ~26% (for teams with at least 10 wins) Means Ferrari has won more in wins against races competed in than McLaren.
* Most F1 fatalities: 7 (4 race, 1 qualifying, 2 testing) (THIS STAT ISN'T GOOD!!!!!!!!!!)

In 2004, Ferrari also surpassed Ford as the most successful F1 engine manufacturer, with 182 wins (to Ford's 176 wins). Due to the availability of the Cosworth V8 to private teams, a total of 6,639 Ford-powered cars were entered between 1967 and 2004, compared to 1,979 starts for Ferrari and Petronas-badged engines during the same period.


Lol Mclaren is 25% i said roughly Equal jeez, and that may exclude 07

don't hang me over 1%
#72658
Not a problem, easy.


The FIA is like God in F1. You cannot defeat God. Even if Hamilton were to win in China, they could always impose a 25 minute penalty on him at the end, plus a million other penalties in the race. Clearly you don't get it. The FIA have already decided who the winner of 2008 will be. Just like they decided it would be Kimi last season. Do you really think anyone could of come back from 17 points down with only 2 races left? Massa only has a 5 point deficit. Much easier task here I would say than Kimi from last season.


I'm happy there is at least 1 misguided Ferrari fanatic on here that admits that every other team in F1 has to beat not only Ferrari but the whole F1 establishment. From a former Ferrari fan I think it's sad that most Ferrari Fanatics continue to ignore the fact that their team does need the help of FIA to win the championship. I also think it's sad that you can say things like that and consider yourself a fan of F1 Racing, because you are obviously not a fan of the sport, So why even bother watching or being involved ? Furthermore if Ferrari is such a Great team then why do they need FIA's Help? Why can't they win fair and square?
Greatness is measured by the ability to overcome adversity and remain Victorious. Greatness is not measured by taking Championship that are given to you. That's called cheating.....
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#72659
Greatness is measured by the ability to overcome diversity and remain Victorious.

Hm, really? I don't think and sure don't hope that diversity has anything to do with greatness and most certainly it doesn't need overcoming...
#72660
Greatness is measured by the ability to overcome diversity and remain Victorious.

Hm, really? I don't think and sure don't hope that diversity has anything to do with greatness and most certainly it doesn't need overcoming...


think he meant adversity
#72662
AKR That's nice that you can pull up all the Ferrari Stats, they show that this company at one time was great . Too Bad nowadays they can't win without FIA's help...... They are still a "Racing Team" aren't they? Then they should be able to win championships out on a race track, Not in a courtroom, Not by the stewards handing them points,Not by penalizing everyone that beats them,but out on the Race track where true Racing teams and true Racing drivers put their lives on the line to compete in what should be an equal arena.
#72663
Ahhh so now we know who the real liar is don't we. It isn't Kimi, it is you. I can now see that no matter what I said, you were always going to favour McLaren over Ferrari. Shame on you to follow an empty team of trash. Ferrari is glory and passion. No one comes close and will ever come close to Ferrari. FACT.

:bs:

The FIA is like God in F1. You cannot defeat God. Even if Hamilton were to win in China, they could always impose a 25 minute penalty on him at the end, plus a million other penalties in the race. Clearly you don't get it. The FIA have already decided who the winner of 2008 will be. Just like they decided it would be Kimi last season. Do you really think anyone could of come back from 17 points down with only 2 races left? Massa only has a 5 point deficit. Much easier task here I would say than Kimi from last season.

You said it, and with such pride. :thumbdown:

Lol Mclaren is 25% i said roughly Equal jeez, and that may exclude 07

don't hang me over 1%

Factor in the number of wins and championships which McLaren have been shagged out of and I'd say we're equal.
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#72695
The administrators should change the name of this site to "Uncoveringtheworldwideconspiracyagainstmclaren-ula1.net".

Do you think we could talk about racing at all?


talk about racing? rich coming from a Ferrari fan :rolleyes: surprised you know what racing is, your team gets its wins in the court room! :yawn:
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