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#72134
It is absolutely stupid to attack Nick for valid comments regarding LH. Other drivers, including Kubica have complained about LH's driving style (RD told Robert to mind his own business) and they have every right to because unlike RD, they are sharing the track doing close to 180mph with LH and their lives depend on each other. Before the Japan GP Kubica said LH is too aggressive when not necessary, RD's respond?? typical McLaren respond trying to make it unvalid, he called Robert "rubbish" and that he should mind his own business. I bet you there was a HUGE grind under Robert's helmet as he passed LH in the first corner. It was a good weekend for those that hates the ROBOT.

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#72327
It is absolutely stupid to attack Nick for valid comments regarding LH. Other drivers, including Kubica have complained about LH's driving style (RD told Robert to mind his own business) and they have every right to because unlike RD, they are sharing the track doing close to 180mph with LH and their lives depend on each other. Before the Japan GP Kubica said LH is too aggressive when not necessary, RD's respond?? typical McLaren respond trying to make it unvalid, he called Robert "rubbish" and that he should mind his own business. I bet you there was a HUGE grind under Robert's helmet as he passed LH in the first corner. It was a good weekend for those that hates the ROBOT.

Hamilton is aggressive, but not dangerous. In fact, it's very hard to be dangerous in modern Formula One. The current crop of drivers have no true conception of what dangerous motorsport is. Kubica is just annoyed because he's not getting a piece of the pie this year. :yawn:
#72328
It is absolutely stupid to attack Nick for valid comments regarding LH. Other drivers, including Kubica have complained about LH's driving style (RD told Robert to mind his own business) and they have every right to because unlike RD, they are sharing the track doing close to 180mph with LH and their lives depend on each other. Before the Japan GP Kubica said LH is too aggressive when not necessary, RD's respond?? typical McLaren respond trying to make it unvalid, he called Robert "rubbish" and that he should mind his own business. I bet you there was a HUGE grind under Robert's helmet as he passed LH in the first corner. It was a good weekend for those that hates the ROBOT.

Hamilton is aggressive, but not dangerous. In fact, it's very hard to be dangerous in modern Formula One. The current crop of drivers have no true conception of what dangerous motorsport is. Kubica is just annoyed because he's not getting a piece of the pie this year. :yawn:


I dunno, I think Kubica is well-qualified to comment on what danger in motorsports is.
#72329
I think Kubica is moving alongside his buddy Alonso in terms of criticing. I mean he said after the race at the weekend "what a result considering how bad the car was, with no development".
So what if it makes him an bottom - just like Alonso.
People can criticise all they like for me, it's a free country.
And being Two faced is part of life - we ALL do it, in one form or another.

"Hey, I like Pepsi better than Coke" - Yet buys a bottle of Coke cause its cheaper in the shop :wink:
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#72330
It is absolutely stupid to attack Nick for valid comments regarding LH. Other drivers, including Kubica have complained about LH's driving style (RD told Robert to mind his own business) and they have every right to because unlike RD, they are sharing the track doing close to 180mph with LH and their lives depend on each other. Before the Japan GP Kubica said LH is too aggressive when not necessary, RD's respond?? typical McLaren respond trying to make it unvalid, he called Robert "rubbish" and that he should mind his own business. I bet you there was a HUGE grind under Robert's helmet as he passed LH in the first corner. It was a good weekend for those that hates the ROBOT.

Hamilton is aggressive, but not dangerous. In fact, it's very hard to be dangerous in modern Formula One. The current crop of drivers have no true conception of what dangerous motorsport is. Kubica is just annoyed because he's not getting a piece of the pie this year. :yawn:


I dunno, I think Kubica is well-qualified to comment on what danger in motorsports is.


Yep, as far as I can remember Kubica and Hamilton have had contact once in the past two seasons, it was kubicas fault.
#72333
It is absolutely stupid to attack Nick for valid comments regarding LH. Other drivers, including Kubica have complained about LH's driving style (RD told Robert to mind his own business) and they have every right to because unlike RD, they are sharing the track doing close to 180mph with LH and their lives depend on each other. Before the Japan GP Kubica said LH is too aggressive when not necessary, RD's respond?? typical McLaren respond trying to make it unvalid, he called Robert "rubbish" and that he should mind his own business. I bet you there was a HUGE grind under Robert's helmet as he passed LH in the first corner. It was a good weekend for those that hates the ROBOT.

Hamilton is aggressive, but not dangerous. In fact, it's very hard to be dangerous in modern Formula One. The current crop of drivers have no true conception of what dangerous motorsport is. Kubica is just annoyed because he's not getting a piece of the pie this year. :yawn:


I dunno, I think Kubica is well-qualified to comment on what danger in motorsports is.

I would argue to the contrary. Kubica had one of the most violent accidents I have seen in watching Formula One and motorsport generally in a very long time, and came out of it with a sore ankle. Perhaps Kubica should wise-up and speak to the Senna family, the de Angelis family, drivers such as Lauda, Stewart or Moss and then he will find out what dangerous motorsport is.
#72338
It is absolutely stupid to attack Nick for valid comments regarding LH. Other drivers, including Kubica have complained about LH's driving style (RD told Robert to mind his own business) and they have every right to because unlike RD, they are sharing the track doing close to 180mph with LH and their lives depend on each other. Before the Japan GP Kubica said LH is too aggressive when not necessary, RD's respond?? typical McLaren respond trying to make it unvalid, he called Robert "rubbish" and that he should mind his own business. I bet you there was a HUGE grind under Robert's helmet as he passed LH in the first corner. It was a good weekend for those that hates the ROBOT.

Hamilton is aggressive, but not dangerous. In fact, it's very hard to be dangerous in modern Formula One. The current crop of drivers have no true conception of what dangerous motorsport is. Kubica is just annoyed because he's not getting a piece of the pie this year. :yawn:


I dunno, I think Kubica is well-qualified to comment on what danger in motorsports is.

I would argue to the contrary. Kubica had one of the most violent accidents I have seen in watching Formula One and motorsport generally in a very long time, and came out of it with a sore ankle. Perhaps Kubica should wise-up and speak to the Senna family, the de Angelis family, drivers such as Lauda, Stewart or Moss and then he will find out what dangerous motorsport is.


Surviving a horrifying accident doesn't automatically make it less dangerous than it was. The reality is that, had he come into contact with another car racing round the track, he could have been killed and so could the guy that he'd come in to contact with. In fact, even without contact with another car, that accident could still very easily have killed him. I'll take your opinion as valid after you go through that and brush it off as safe.
#72346
Surviving a horrifying accident doesn't automatically make it less dangerous than it was. The reality is that, had he come into contact with another car racing round the track, he could have been killed and so could the guy that he'd come in to contact with. In fact, even without contact with another car, that accident could still very easily have killed him. I'll take your opinion as valid after you go through that and brush it off as safe.

I don't care whether you like my opinions or not. The fact remains Kubica not just survived his accident in Canada, but was completely unscathed. That is a testament to the very high safety stands in Formula One. If Kubica is worried about getting injured in what are nothing incidents, he should just leave the sport. I've not time for China-doll Formula One drivers.
#72349
Surviving a horrifying accident doesn't automatically make it less dangerous than it was. The reality is that, had he come into contact with another car racing round the track, he could have been killed and so could the guy that he'd come in to contact with. In fact, even without contact with another car, that accident could still very easily have killed him. I'll take your opinion as valid after you go through that and brush it off as safe.

I don't care whether you like my opinions or not. The fact remains Kubica not just survived his accident in Canada, but was completely unscathed. That is a testament to the very high safety stands in Formula One. If Kubica is worried about getting injured in what are nothing incidents, he should just leave the sport. I've not time for China-doll Formula One drivers.


Bollocks. I've been in several situations where, even as little as five years ago, I'd have been killed outright but thanks to innovations in the safety technology in place I came off with minor injuries. But that doesn't mean it didn't scare the s*** out of me and make me wonder about what could have been. I'm sorry, but an accident like Kubica's is never a "nothing accident" no matter what. Sure, there are safety measures in place, and excellent ones at that in Formula 1, but there is never 100% safety in every situation.
#72356
Surviving a horrifying accident doesn't automatically make it less dangerous than it was. The reality is that, had he come into contact with another car racing round the track, he could have been killed and so could the guy that he'd come in to contact with. In fact, even without contact with another car, that accident could still very easily have killed him. I'll take your opinion as valid after you go through that and brush it off as safe.

I don't care whether you like my opinions or not. The fact remains Kubica not just survived his accident in Canada, but was completely unscathed. That is a testament to the very high safety stands in Formula One. If Kubica is worried about getting injured in what are nothing incidents, he should just leave the sport. I've not time for China-doll Formula One drivers.


Bollocks. I've been in several situations where, even as little as five years ago, I'd have been killed outright but thanks to innovations in the safety technology in place I came off with minor injuries. But that doesn't mean it didn't scare the s*** out of me and make me wonder about what could have been. I'm sorry, but an accident like Kubica's is never a "nothing accident" no matter what. Sure, there are safety measures in place, and excellent ones at that in Formula 1, but there is never 100% safety in every situation.


I could of died 4 years ago when I fell off my horse the paramedics said, and I knew it could of happened, safety in any situation has come on so much but it doesnt mean it can prevent everything. Though when I came out of hospital, I was more determined to get back on.
#72364
Bollocks. I've been in several situations where, even as little as five years ago, I'd have been killed outright but thanks to innovations in the safety technology in place I came off with minor injuries. But that doesn't mean it didn't scare the s*** out of me and make me wonder about what could have been. I'm sorry, but an accident like Kubica's is never a "nothing accident" no matter what. Sure, there are safety measures in place, and excellent ones at that in Formula 1, but there is never 100% safety in every situation.

You've clearly misunderstood my previous post, for I did not say Kubica's accident in Canada in 2007 was a 'nothing incident'. As I said before, it was one of the most nasty accidents I've seen in a long time. What are nothing incidents include things such as Hamilton passing him.

I've been in my fair share of nasty incidents as well, but I knew what I was doing was dangerous and was prepared to take the risk. When I did injure myself on several occasions (broken nose, broken wrist, ligament damage) I knew I had nobody to blame but myself. If anything, fear made it more exciting, in a masochistic kind of way. If Kubica feels Formula One is dangerous, he should live with it or retire. You can't do a dangerous activity on your free will and then complain about it being dangerous.
#72367
Bollocks. I've been in several situations where, even as little as five years ago, I'd have been killed outright but thanks to innovations in the safety technology in place I came off with minor injuries. But that doesn't mean it didn't scare the s*** out of me and make me wonder about what could have been. I'm sorry, but an accident like Kubica's is never a "nothing accident" no matter what. Sure, there are safety measures in place, and excellent ones at that in Formula 1, but there is never 100% safety in every situation.

You've clearly misunderstood my previous post, for I did not say Kubica's accident in Canada in 2007 was a 'nothing incident'. As I said before, it was one of the most nasty accidents I've seen in a long time. What are nothing incidents include things such as Hamilton passing him.

I've been in my fair share of nasty incidents as well, but I knew what I was doing was dangerous and was prepared to take the risk. When I did injure myself on several occasions (broken nose, broken wrist, ligament damage) I knew I had nobody to blame but myself. If anything, fear made it more exciting, in a masochistic kind of way. If Kubica feels Formula One is dangerous, he should live with it or retire. You can't do a dangerous activity on your free will and then complain about it being dangerous.


Everyone is life has to live a little bit dangerously
#72373
Bollocks. I've been in several situations where, even as little as five years ago, I'd have been killed outright but thanks to innovations in the safety technology in place I came off with minor injuries. But that doesn't mean it didn't scare the s*** out of me and make me wonder about what could have been. I'm sorry, but an accident like Kubica's is never a "nothing accident" no matter what. Sure, there are safety measures in place, and excellent ones at that in Formula 1, but there is never 100% safety in every situation.

You've clearly misunderstood my previous post, for I did not say Kubica's accident in Canada in 2007 was a 'nothing incident'. As I said before, it was one of the most nasty accidents I've seen in a long time. What are nothing incidents include things such as Hamilton passing him.

I've been in my fair share of nasty incidents as well, but I knew what I was doing was dangerous and was prepared to take the risk. When I did injure myself on several occasions (broken nose, broken wrist, ligament damage) I knew I had nobody to blame but myself. If anything, fear made it more exciting, in a masochistic kind of way. If Kubica feels Formula One is dangerous, he should live with it or retire. You can't do a dangerous activity on your free will and then complain about it being dangerous.

If only somebody would tell that to Coulthard and Trulli when they gurned about Traction Control being taken away.
#72376
Bollocks. I've been in several situations where, even as little as five years ago, I'd have been killed outright but thanks to innovations in the safety technology in place I came off with minor injuries. But that doesn't mean it didn't scare the s*** out of me and make me wonder about what could have been. I'm sorry, but an accident like Kubica's is never a "nothing accident" no matter what. Sure, there are safety measures in place, and excellent ones at that in Formula 1, but there is never 100% safety in every situation.

You've clearly misunderstood my previous post, for I did not say Kubica's accident in Canada in 2007 was a 'nothing incident'. As I said before, it was one of the most nasty accidents I've seen in a long time. What are nothing incidents include things such as Hamilton passing him.

I've been in my fair share of nasty incidents as well, but I knew what I was doing was dangerous and was prepared to take the risk. When I did injure myself on several occasions (broken nose, broken wrist, ligament damage) I knew I had nobody to blame but myself. If anything, fear made it more exciting, in a masochistic kind of way. If Kubica feels Formula One is dangerous, he should live with it or retire. You can't do a dangerous activity on your free will and then complain about it being dangerous.


But the acceptable level of danger is only so high. If someone's putting you into an unnecessary danger then, whether or not the sport is fundamentally dangerous, it is still going too far. This, for example, falls into that category:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ykv7dYrGSBs

Had that been Monaco, Frentzen could've ended up injured. As it is, he could've been seriously injured anywhere else on that track, really. That's the kind of thing that is an unnecessary danger and a driver would have every right to complain about that kind of conduct from another driver.
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