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#72162
WHAT IF THE STEWARDS HADN'T INTERFERED
Monday 13th October 2008

Never before has the decision-making of race stewards played such a pivotal role in the destiny of a World Championship.

In their headline, The Guardian claims that 'the stewards will decide the title race'. But have they already? Here, PF1 reviews the decisions this season that have directly affected the battle between Lewis Hamilton and Felipe Massa...

Canada, June 8
Stewards' Ruling: Ten grid-slot demotion against Lewis Hamilton for the French GP after he crashed into the back of Kimi Raikkonen's Ferrari at the end of the pit lane after failing to spot a red light.

Controversial? No. Even Hamilton admitted he could have no complaints with the ruling. "I have no argument with the stewards," he told reporters.

Points Difference: None.


France, June 22
Stewards' Ruling: A drive-through penalty against Hamilton after he was adjudged to have gained an advantage by leaving the track in the process of overtaking the Toro Rosso of Sebastian Vettel on the opening lap.

Controversial? McLaren - and their driver - were adamant that Hamilton had already passed Vettel when he left the track (although his critics responded by claiming that the overtake was only possible if he then left the track). Hamilton spoke darkly afterwards about the penalties being levelled against him, while Ron Dennis pointedly refused to rubbish suggestions that stewards were victimising his team.

Television footage of the incident was inconclusive, neither proving nor disproving that Hamilton was in front of Vettel and had not - in the summary of Dennis - "gained any road position".

In hindsight, the ruling's significance is that it was Allan Donnelly, Max Mosley's representative and the chief executive of a company with links to Ferrari, who 'led' the investigation, along with the absence of any sort of explanation from the stewards.

As PF1 reported at the time:

'According to ITV, who supply coverage of F1 in Britain, the only footage of the Hamilton incident provided by the FOM TV host broadcast was an on-board shot from the Englishman's McLaren that apparently showed Hamilton past Vettel before he approached the Nurburgring chicane.

'They claim that 'No exterior shot of the incident was offered', but cite the FIA reporting that 'its stewards, led by Max Mosley's number two Alan Donnelly, had access to the circuit's closed circuit TV cameras when making their decision'. The Times reports that the stewards adjudged Hamilton's offence to be "very clear". It is unclear, however, why this footage has not been made available.'

Points Difference: Hamilton finished out of the points but, minus the 25 seconds a drive-through penalty is reckoned to be worth, he would probably have finished sixth, if not fifth. A conservative estimate, then, is that the penalty was worth two points.


Valencia, August 24
Stewards' Ruling: No penalty - other than a paltry fine and a reprimand confirming his guilt - against Felipe Massa for his unsafe release into the path of Adrian Sutil's Force India from his second and final pit-stop. Massa bizarrely blamed Sutil for the incident, but in doing so underlined its danger by confirming "we came very close to the wall".

Controversial? Only mildly controversial at the time, the ruling assumed a different perspective two weeks later when the three stewards at Spa opted against maintaining the sort of 'common-sense' outlook used by the stewards in Valencia. A month later at Singapore, the critics were given further ammunition when, in a near-identical repeat of his unsafe release in Spain, Massa was given a drive-through penalty for the same offence. As the Brazilian was already trailing at the back of the field, the ruling had no impact in terms of points.

Points Difference: Had the stewards in Valencia added on 25 seconds to Massa's time, he would have been relegated to second and Hamilton promoted to first - a swing of four points.


Belgium, September 7
Stewards' Ruling: A retrospective drive-through penalty against Hamilton for being deemed to have gained an advantage by cutting the corner before he overtook the ailing Ferrari of Kimi Raikkonen.

Controversial? Branded the "worst judgement in the history of F1" by former World Champion (and former Ferrari driver) Niki Lauda, the ruling continues to cast a dark shadow over F1. In their defence, McLaren revealed that they had been advised - twice - by race director Charlie Whiting that Hamilton's move was legitimate and provided telemetry to prove that Hamilton had lifted in order to let Raikkonen re-pass him. There was further consternation when it was revealed that, with the rulebook not providing any reference to the offence of 'gaining an advantage', Hamilton was technically punished for leaving the track - an offence that countless drivers, including Massa, had committed during the race.

McLaren's appeal was ruled inadmissible, but not before a hearing had been convened at considerable expense in which Ferrari's lawyer represented the FIA and the governing body was alleged, by their former chief steward, to have fabricated his evidence in order to deter McLaren from pursuing their claim.

Points Difference: Six - Hamilton lost four when he was relegated from first to third, while Massa was handed an additional two in being gifted the race win.


Japan, October 12
Stewards' Ruling: A drive-through penalty against Hamilton for his manoeuvre into the first corner.

Controversial? Punishing a driver for essentially out-braking himself into the first corner is believed to be without precedent in the sport's long history ( the rulebook makes no reference to 'stupidity' or 'brain fade'). "Drivers miss braking points, they run wide; these things happen. Any experienced motor racing person sees it as a racing incident," commented Ron Dennis. "We were a bit surprised that Lewis was given a penalty simply because we've all seen similar first corner incidents that triggered no such penalty."

Article 16.1 of the sporting regulations stipulates that drivers can be punished for forcing a competitor off the track. However, notwithstanding the point that Kimi Raikkonen escaped punishment for punting Adrian Sutil out of the Monaco GP, replays of Sunday's first-corner incident suggest that, although Hamilton forced Raikkonen wide, it was Heikki Kovalainen, one of many drivers to out-brake himself into the first corner, who forced the Ferrari off the track. Incredibly, in their race notification, the stewards confirmed that they did not even investigate Kovalainen's role in the mayhem.

Points Difference: With his tyres cooked, Hamilton would have had to pit on the first lap regardless - making a race victory impossible. However, according to Dennis, "Without the penalty, we would have still got points, that's for sure". Given that his car was damaged in his collision with Massa - that, as a first-corner incident, would have still occurred in our alternative history - it is difficult to see, however, Hamilton finishing higher than eighth. But that might have been sufficient to keep Massa point-less. So we'll settle on a two-point swing.


Japan, October 12
Stewards' Ruling: A drive-through penalty against Felipe Massa for cutting the chicane as he punted Hamilton into a spin.

Controversial? Massa remains in a minority of one in believing that he did not deserve the penalty and it was the McLaren driver's fault. That said, an emotional Hamilton was probably equally wayward in alleging that Massa "deliberately" collided with him.

Points Difference: None.


Japan, October 12
Stewards' Ruling: A retrospective drive-through penalty against Sebastien Bourdais over his collision with Massa.

Controversial? Arguably the most inexplicable decision of any given by the stewards this season. With Bourdais tucked into his side of the track, the general expectation was that, if any penalty was to be applied, it would be against Massa. To add to the sense of injustice, it has since emerged that the stewards' judgement was issued in direct contradiction of the advice given to drivers beforehand by Race Director Whiting that 'the car exiting the pits has right of way'.

Points Difference: One - Bourdais punishment was wholly unwarranted.

Were the stewards to have followed this course of action, and applied the rest of the 'Points Difference' set out above, the current World Championship standings would be very different. Felipe Massa would enter the final two races of the season knowing that he had to win both to have any chance of the title while Hamilton, leading 93-73 in our alternative, would require just a single point to clinch his first title.


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#72163
Amen. The Ferarri World Championship is exactly that, I remeber reading something last year that Mosley said It would be bad for F1 (Ferarri) if Hamilton was to win the world championship 2008 or 2009. He seens to be the one person who could do for F1 what Rossi did for the 500/MotoGP champonship.
It is so obvious for even someone like myself who is new to this, (I thought it was a sport)that the governing body must be on Ferarri's payroll or somehow involved with this cockup.
It is crap and they have lost me.
#72176
That was a great read, bud.

I was aware of all cases mentioned, but having them all in one place adds weight significantly.

What to say? I was hoping Ferrari will turn for the better after Todt's departure, but unfortunately I couldn't have been more wrong; actually it seems Ferrari is much more privileged and protected by FIA nowadays than it was in Todt/Brown/Schumacher era.
#72193
WHAT IF THE STEWARDS HADN'T INTERFERED
Monday 13th October 2008

Never before has the decision-making of race stewards played such a pivotal role in the destiny of a World Championship.

In their headline, The Guardian claims that 'the stewards will decide the title race'. But have they already? Here, PF1 reviews the decisions this season that have directly affected the battle between Lewis Hamilton and Felipe Massa...

Canada, June 8
Stewards' Ruling: Ten grid-slot demotion against Lewis Hamilton for the French GP after he crashed into the back of Kimi Raikkonen's Ferrari at the end of the pit lane after failing to spot a red light.

Controversial? No. Even Hamilton admitted he could have no complaints with the ruling. "I have no argument with the stewards," he told reporters.

Points Difference: None.


France, June 22
Stewards' Ruling: A drive-through penalty against Hamilton after he was adjudged to have gained an advantage by leaving the track in the process of overtaking the Toro Rosso of Sebastian Vettel on the opening lap.

Controversial? McLaren - and their driver - were adamant that Hamilton had already passed Vettel when he left the track (although his critics responded by claiming that the overtake was only possible if he then left the track). Hamilton spoke darkly afterwards about the penalties being levelled against him, while Ron Dennis pointedly refused to rubbish suggestions that stewards were victimising his team.

Television footage of the incident was inconclusive, neither proving nor disproving that Hamilton was in front of Vettel and had not - in the summary of Dennis - "gained any road position".

In hindsight, the ruling's significance is that it was Allan Donnelly, Max Mosley's representative and the chief executive of a company with links to Ferrari, who 'led' the investigation, along with the absence of any sort of explanation from the stewards.

As PF1 reported at the time:

'According to ITV, who supply coverage of F1 in Britain, the only footage of the Hamilton incident provided by the FOM TV host broadcast was an on-board shot from the Englishman's McLaren that apparently showed Hamilton past Vettel before he approached the Nurburgring chicane.

'They claim that 'No exterior shot of the incident was offered', but cite the FIA reporting that 'its stewards, led by Max Mosley's number two Alan Donnelly, had access to the circuit's closed circuit TV cameras when making their decision'. The Times reports that the stewards adjudged Hamilton's offence to be "very clear". It is unclear, however, why this footage has not been made available.'

Points Difference: Hamilton finished out of the points but, minus the 25 seconds a drive-through penalty is reckoned to be worth, he would probably have finished sixth, if not fifth. A conservative estimate, then, is that the penalty was worth two points.


Valencia, August 24
Stewards' Ruling: No penalty - other than a paltry fine and a reprimand confirming his guilt - against Felipe Massa for his unsafe release into the path of Adrian Sutil's Force India from his second and final pit-stop. Massa bizarrely blamed Sutil for the incident, but in doing so underlined its danger by confirming "we came very close to the wall".

Controversial? Only mildly controversial at the time, the ruling assumed a different perspective two weeks later when the three stewards at Spa opted against maintaining the sort of 'common-sense' outlook used by the stewards in Valencia. A month later at Singapore, the critics were given further ammunition when, in a near-identical repeat of his unsafe release in Spain, Massa was given a drive-through penalty for the same offence. As the Brazilian was already trailing at the back of the field, the ruling had no impact in terms of points.

Points Difference: Had the stewards in Valencia added on 25 seconds to Massa's time, he would have been relegated to second and Hamilton promoted to first - a swing of four points.


Belgium, September 7
Stewards' Ruling: A retrospective drive-through penalty against Hamilton for being deemed to have gained an advantage by cutting the corner before he overtook the ailing Ferrari of Kimi Raikkonen.

Controversial? Branded the "worst judgement in the history of F1" by former World Champion (and former Ferrari driver) Niki Lauda, the ruling continues to cast a dark shadow over F1. In their defence, McLaren revealed that they had been advised - twice - by race director Charlie Whiting that Hamilton's move was legitimate and provided telemetry to prove that Hamilton had lifted in order to let Raikkonen re-pass him. There was further consternation when it was revealed that, with the rulebook not providing any reference to the offence of 'gaining an advantage', Hamilton was technically punished for leaving the track - an offence that countless drivers, including Massa, had committed during the race.

McLaren's appeal was ruled inadmissible, but not before a hearing had been convened at considerable expense in which Ferrari's lawyer represented the FIA and the governing body was alleged, by their former chief steward, to have fabricated his evidence in order to deter McLaren from pursuing their claim.

Points Difference: Six - Hamilton lost four when he was relegated from first to third, while Massa was handed an additional two in being gifted the race win.


Japan, October 12
Stewards' Ruling: A drive-through penalty against Hamilton for his manoeuvre into the first corner.

Controversial? Punishing a driver for essentially out-braking himself into the first corner is believed to be without precedent in the sport's long history ( the rulebook makes no reference to 'stupidity' or 'brain fade'). "Drivers miss braking points, they run wide; these things happen. Any experienced motor racing person sees it as a racing incident," commented Ron Dennis. "We were a bit surprised that Lewis was given a penalty simply because we've all seen similar first corner incidents that triggered no such penalty."

Article 16.1 of the sporting regulations stipulates that drivers can be punished for forcing a competitor off the track. However, notwithstanding the point that Kimi Raikkonen escaped punishment for punting Adrian Sutil out of the Monaco GP, replays of Sunday's first-corner incident suggest that, although Hamilton forced Raikkonen wide, it was Heikki Kovalainen, one of many drivers to out-brake himself into the first corner, who forced the Ferrari off the track. Incredibly, in their race notification, the stewards confirmed that they did not even investigate Kovalainen's role in the mayhem.

Points Difference: With his tyres cooked, Hamilton would have had to pit on the first lap regardless - making a race victory impossible. However, according to Dennis, "Without the penalty, we would have still got points, that's for sure". Given that his car was damaged in his collision with Massa - that, as a first-corner incident, would have still occurred in our alternative history - it is difficult to see, however, Hamilton finishing higher than eighth. But that might have been sufficient to keep Massa point-less. So we'll settle on a two-point swing.


Japan, October 12
Stewards' Ruling: A drive-through penalty against Felipe Massa for cutting the chicane as he punted Hamilton into a spin.

Controversial? Massa remains in a minority of one in believing that he did not deserve the penalty and it was the McLaren driver's fault. That said, an emotional Hamilton was probably equally wayward in alleging that Massa "deliberately" collided with him.

Points Difference: None.


Japan, October 12
Stewards' Ruling: A retrospective drive-through penalty against Sebastien Bourdais over his collision with Massa.

Controversial? Arguably the most inexplicable decision of any given by the stewards this season. With Bourdais tucked into his side of the track, the general expectation was that, if any penalty was to be applied, it would be against Massa. To add to the sense of injustice, it has since emerged that the stewards' judgement was issued in direct contradiction of the advice given to drivers beforehand by Race Director Whiting that 'the car exiting the pits has right of way'.

Points Difference: One - Bourdais punishment was wholly unwarranted.

Were the stewards to have followed this course of action, and applied the rest of the 'Points Difference' set out above, the current World Championship standings would be very different. Felipe Massa would enter the final two races of the season knowing that he had to win both to have any chance of the title while Hamilton, leading 93-73 in our alternative, would require just a single point to clinch his first title.


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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, read this today at work on www.planetf1.com. BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All bullpoo and probably written by a whinnig McLaren supporter. The only part I give any credit to is that Bourdais was penalised and not Massa when I would of thought that no one would get penalised or just Massa. That decision I don't understand but the rest is all just typical excuses from McLaren supporters.
#72194
Amen. The Ferarri World Championship is exactly that, I remeber reading something last year that Mosley said It would be bad for F1 (Ferarri) if Hamilton was to win the world championship 2008 or 2009. He seens to be the one person who could do for F1 what Rossi did for the 500/MotoGP champonship.
It is so obvious for even someone like myself who is new to this, (I thought it was a sport)that the governing body must be on Ferarri's payroll or somehow involved with this cockup.
It is crap and they have lost me.


Umm excuse me but there is a major problem here and at least Max Mosley can see this. Valentino Rossi won 5 Moto GP titles in a row and then lost the next 2 years and finally won again this year. If Lewis Hamilton did that in F1 it would mean at least 5 titles in a row for McLaren. That would actually be bad for the sport. Although McLaren will win something eventually, once or twice in a row is more than acceptable and that is pushing the acceptable level as well. Lewis Hamilton should just take a hint. If he wants to be like Rossi or Schumacher, leave McLaren and go to another team like Ferrari. Then he wont have to complain about any so called FIA favours against him anymore. Simple.
#72195
Planet-F1 is basically full of McLaren propaganda.

I can't see how they can, with a straight face, claim that Massa's penalty in Japan had no points difference - and then go further to suggest that even though Hamilton would've had to pit ridiculously early, already at the back of the pack AND run a high fuel load... he'd have definitely been in the points, and ahead of Massa.


Now I'd prefer Hamilton to win the title than Massa, but that article is a heap of biased rubbish... something that unfortunately, has come to be expected of PF1.
#72197
Planet-F1 is basically full of McLaren propaganda.

I can't see how they can, with a straight face, claim that Massa's penalty in Japan had no points difference - and then go further to suggest that even though Hamilton would've had to pit ridiculously early, already at the back of the pack AND run a high fuel load... he'd have definitely been in the points, and ahead of Massa.


Now I'd prefer Hamilton to win the title than Massa, but that article is a heap of biased rubbish... something that unfortunately, has come to be expected of PF1.


Yes I have noticed that about planetf1, maybe they should rename the site to planetmclaren.com :hehe:
#72198
I was not a Ferarri or McLaren supporter before I came to this forum. I was starting to enjoy motorsport as a whole. Now, because of the bias crap I have been reading here, I hope Hamilton does win the next 5 World Championships and the constructors championship as well. Yes, Rossi has won 5 World Championships, obviously Hamilton just got the drive because he was a nice bloke or went out with one of the daughters of someone at McLaren. He has not won anything up to the start of last year. Just as a side issue, I have owned 2 Ferarri's, both were absolute heaps of junk as road cars 355-360, I now have a Mercedes that I can drive every day without the fear of broken timing belts or injection systems that need constant tuning, the Mercedes is the best thing I have ever driven. And Mr AKR, you are a w***er who has his head up his bias arse. Give people credit where it is due.
#72199
Planet-F1 is basically full of McLaren propaganda.

I can't see how they can, with a straight face, claim that Massa's penalty in Japan had no points difference - and then go further to suggest that even though Hamilton would've had to pit ridiculously early, already at the back of the pack AND run a high fuel load... he'd have definitely been in the points, and ahead of Massa.


Now I'd prefer Hamilton to win the title than Massa, but that article is a heap of biased rubbish... something that unfortunately, has come to be expected of PF1.


Yes I have noticed that about planetf1, maybe they should rename the site to planetmclaren.com :hehe:


To be fair i agree its a british website so there slightly bais.

but i feel that artical is fair and the result is hamilton would be world champion.

and Mclaren would still be in the lead of the constructors.

they have interfered way to much.
#72222
awww end of the world PlanetF1 is McLaren bias AKR says..... unfortunately that doesnt make up for the FIA Ferrari bias :rofl:

its funny you see PlanetF1 in such ways, when id always consider that site pro Ferrari if anything.
#72226
And Mr AKR, you are a w***er who has his head up his bias arse. Give people credit where it is due.


Umm excuse meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. To start with its Miss AKR, incase you haven't notice under my where I am from it says Ferrari Tifosa, note tifosa ending with an a, not an o meaning feminine......... You GOVNO! Secondly you can hope Lewis Hamilton wil win the next 5 championships just like I can hope Massa will the next 5 as well. It wont happen especially if Lewis Hamilton stays at McLaren all his life. And lastly on a nicer note, my name is Kiki, what is yours and where are you from?
#72227
its funny you see PlanetF1 in such ways, when id always consider that site pro Ferrari if anything.


No way! You surely cannot be serious? You really see them as pro Ferrari? :confused:
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