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#71688
Ok, not at all. I would have said 'racing incident' and penalised neither driver.

Massa turned in on a car he knew was inside him (a move that would have got Hamilton slated by many on here) and spun himself out in the process, in theory he was more to blame than Bourdais, but the fact he spun out was punishment enough in my view, Bourdais was in no way to blame for the incident.
#71692
Bourdais had every right to be there having exited the pits, and should not have to yield to massa. also how legal was massa's pass down the pit straight where he hugged the pit wall and crossed the chevrons into the pitlane exit to conclude the pass, what if a car had been exiting, I'm sure some drivers may have been penalised for it............
#71697
Bourdais was perfectly right on this occasion. What is going on in F1 thesedays! F1 used to be great, now you need an action plan to even contemplate overtaking. The FIA blame lack of overtaking on downforce turbulance, perhaps in reality the drivers are thinking twice before overtaking as one team goes whinging to the stewards yet again. Then comes the inevitable time penalty, drive through penalty etc. Hamilton should also have got away with his start and the Massa/Hamilton incident put down to two young chargers having a racing incident.
I watch World Superbike & Moto GP racing too, the racers there manage to lock horns big time nearly every race, and then just get on with it, you can then enjoy watching the inevitable fightback which ensues. It knocks the petty foibles of todays F1 into a cocked hat. I used to be the most avid of F1 fans in the days of Mansell and Senna, Prost early Schumacher days and the like, yes they winged, but were allowed pretty much to dice with each other without all the petty interference from the teams and stewards that happens today. Lets face it, Schumacher would only be a six times world champion with todays rules (if that!), remember that accidental swerve/bounce of the wall that took out Damon Hill which conveniently gave Schuey the championship? So unless it is as so thoroughly blatant as the Senna/Prost ramming incident years ago on 1st corner in Japan, lets have some real racing again, and get rid of all these petty stewards enquiries and court cases. I read in a magazine recently that F1 teams are recruiting mathematicians now to work out when to pit, and what position each teams drivers are likely to finish in (barring accidents). This is a step too far, where is the uncertainty of racing now? I don't care who wins, I just want to see a good race again.
#71913
I read in a magazine recently that F1 teams are recruiting mathematicians now to work out when to pit, and what position each teams drivers are likely to finish in (barring accidents). This is a step too far, where is the uncertainty of racing now? I don't care who wins, I just want to see a good race again.

And from this James Allen gets his sick visualisations that "McLaren strategists work in darkened rooms breaking WW2 codes".

As soon as this budget cap comes into place we won't need the strategists and it would be nice to see the drivers determine their race strategy like "Le Proffesseur" used to be so good at.

It was a racing incident, no penalties should have been applied, Bourdais did not drive into Massa and had nowhere else to go.
Last edited by 7UpJordan on 13 Oct 08, 18:52, edited 1 time in total.

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