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[bud]

Mclaren are starting to unravel just like last year. Lewis made such a big deal all season about playing the percentage game and then in a split second throws the race away. Instincts told him to go for the win but I am sure that Ron Dennis sat him down and said just beat Massa and he didn't do it. This tells me he is still immature and not the "best driver in F1" as he likes to go around bragging.

Ferrari are still not to their slick best but they are ahead in the Constructors and Massa gained a point on Lewis. So all and all not too bad.

Good victory for Alonso and it means that he will definitely stay with Renault for at least one more year. Honda are too risky even if Ross Brawn is running the team.

we will see who unravels after Brazil mate! but then again we will see how much help Ferrari get for that to occur

[Gaz]

Whats lewis' ego got to do with this?? He's trying to win races and he made a mistake.

Well, isn't it a fact he had no reason to attack Kimi first turn - he IS racing Massa at this point, not Kimi? But it looked as if he just could not let anyone be in front of him.

All drivers race to win, but real good drivers race with their head...

yeah experience plays apart in that! its easy to sit in your armchair and say hey let Kimi go Lewis.

Bud, this is the end of his 2nd season and I'd bet team radioed him not to attack Kimi as they were technically not racing each other - Lewis was racing Massa, after all.

I'm sorry but I don't think this was a rookie mistake - it is just the way he is. And while that makes him very entertaining driver, id does not do any favours to him or the team.

This is F1 not chess you make split-second decisions Lewis made a bad one the was defo no time for anyone to tell him to let it go.

Hekki could of done more in my opinion i'm not saying it was his fault but if he attacked Kimi then it would taken the pressure of Lewis.

Lewis is too aggressive where as Hekki isn't aggressive enough.

[Denthúl]

Whats lewis' ego got to do with this?? He's trying to win races and he made a mistake.

Well, isn't it a fact he had no reason to attack Kimi first turn - he IS racing Massa at this point, not Kimi? But it looked as if he just could not let anyone be in front of him.

All drivers race to win, but real good drivers race with their head...

yeah experience plays apart in that! its easy to sit in your armchair and say hey let Kimi go Lewis.

Bud, this is the end of his 2nd season and I'd bet team radioed him not to attack Kimi as they were technically not racing each other - Lewis was racing Massa, after all.

I'm sorry but I don't think this was a rookie mistake - it is just the way he is. And while that makes him very entertaining driver, id does not do any favours to him or the team.

This is F1 not chess you make split-second decisions Lewis made a bad one the was defo no time for anyone to tell him to let it go.

Hekki could of done more in my opinion i'm not saying it was his fault but if he attacked Kimi then it would taken the pressure of Lewis.

Lewis is too aggressive where as Hekki isn't aggressive enough.

Heikki could do nothing to attack Kimi because Lewis had just cut straight across the front of him.

[Gaz]

Whats lewis' ego got to do with this?? He's trying to win races and he made a mistake.

Well, isn't it a fact he had no reason to attack Kimi first turn - he IS racing Massa at this point, not Kimi? But it looked as if he just could not let anyone be in front of him.

All drivers race to win, but real good drivers race with their head...

yeah experience plays apart in that! its easy to sit in your armchair and say hey let Kimi go Lewis.

Bud, this is the end of his 2nd season and I'd bet team radioed him not to attack Kimi as they were technically not racing each other - Lewis was racing Massa, after all.

I'm sorry but I don't think this was a rookie mistake - it is just the way he is. And while that makes him very entertaining driver, id does not do any favours to him or the team.

This is F1 not chess you make split-second decisions Lewis made a bad one the was defo no time for anyone to tell him to let it go.

Hekki could of done more in my opinion i'm not saying it was his fault but if he attacked Kimi then it would taken the pressure of Lewis.

Lewis is too aggressive where as Hekki isn't aggressive enough.

Heikki could do nothing to attack Kimi because Lewis had just cut straight across the front of him.

i mean right at the start of the race

[Denthúl]

Whats lewis' ego got to do with this?? He's trying to win races and he made a mistake.

Well, isn't it a fact he had no reason to attack Kimi first turn - he IS racing Massa at this point, not Kimi? But it looked as if he just could not let anyone be in front of him.

All drivers race to win, but real good drivers race with their head...

yeah experience plays apart in that! its easy to sit in your armchair and say hey let Kimi go Lewis.

Bud, this is the end of his 2nd season and I'd bet team radioed him not to attack Kimi as they were technically not racing each other - Lewis was racing Massa, after all.

I'm sorry but I don't think this was a rookie mistake - it is just the way he is. And while that makes him very entertaining driver, id does not do any favours to him or the team.

This is F1 not chess you make split-second decisions Lewis made a bad one the was defo no time for anyone to tell him to let it go.

Hekki could of done more in my opinion i'm not saying it was his fault but if he attacked Kimi then it would taken the pressure of Lewis.

Lewis is too aggressive where as Hekki isn't aggressive enough.

Heikki could do nothing to attack Kimi because Lewis had just cut straight across the front of him.

i mean right at the start of the race

So do I

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1H5KReYtyew

There was nothing more Kovalainen could have done there.

[bud]

Whats lewis' ego got to do with this?? He's trying to win races and he made a mistake.

Well, isn't it a fact he had no reason to attack Kimi first turn - he IS racing Massa at this point, not Kimi? But it looked as if he just could not let anyone be in front of him.

All drivers race to win, but real good drivers race with their head...

yeah experience plays apart in that! its easy to sit in your armchair and say hey let Kimi go Lewis.

Bud, this is the end of his 2nd season and I'd bet team radioed him not to attack Kimi as they were technically not racing each other - Lewis was racing Massa, after all.

I'm sorry but I don't think this was a rookie mistake - it is just the way he is. And while that makes him very entertaining driver, id does not do any favours to him or the team.

This is F1 not chess you make split-second decisions Lewis made a bad one the was defo no time for anyone to tell him to let it go.

Hekki could of done more in my opinion i'm not saying it was his fault but if he attacked Kimi then it would taken the pressure of Lewis.

Lewis is too aggressive where as Hekki isn't aggressive enough.

Heikki could do nothing to attack Kimi because Lewis had just cut straight across the front of him.

i mean right at the start of the race

So do I

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1H5KReYtyew

There was nothing more Kovalainen could have done there.

yeah not much he could do, but thanks for that link just reassures myself on Lewis start, NOTHING NEW NOTHING IN IT

[McLaren Fan]

Mclaren are starting to unravel just like last year. Lewis made such a big deal all season about playing the percentage game and then in a split second throws the race away. Instincts told him to go for the win but I am sure that Ron Dennis sat him down and said just beat Massa and he didn't do it. This tells me he is still immature and not the "best driver in F1" as he likes to go around bragging.

Ferrari are still not to their slick best but they are ahead in the Constructors and Massa gained a point on Lewis. So all and all not too bad.

Good victory for Alonso and it means that he will definitely stay with Renault for at least one more year. Honda are too risky even if Ross Brawn is running the team.

How are McLaren starting to unravel? Hamilton - one guy out of 1,500 - made a mistake, and Kovalainen's engine packed-in. The first time a Mercedes unit has failed in God-knows-how-long. It happens from time to time. I would also dispute that McLaren unraveled last season. Despite all of the off-track politics, McLaren should have won the drivers' title - but Alonso crashed in China and Hamilton botched things up in China and Brazil - and had the constructors' championship stolen by the FIA.

[AKR]

and had the constructors' championship stolen by the FIA.

No they didn't. They cheated and were fairly punished accordingly.

[bud]

Mclaren are starting to unravel just like last year. Lewis made such a big deal all season about playing the percentage game and then in a split second throws the race away. Instincts told him to go for the win but I am sure that Ron Dennis sat him down and said just beat Massa and he didn't do it. This tells me he is still immature and not the "best driver in F1" as he likes to go around bragging.

Ferrari are still not to their slick best but they are ahead in the Constructors and Massa gained a point on Lewis. So all and all not too bad.

Good victory for Alonso and it means that he will definitely stay with Renault for at least one more year. Honda are too risky even if Ross Brawn is running the team.

How are McLaren starting to unravel? Hamilton - one guy out of 1,500 - made a mistake, and Kovalainen's engine packed-in. The first time a Mercedes unit has failed in God-knows-how-long. It happens from time to time. I would also dispute that McLaren unraveled last season. Despite all of the off-track politics, McLaren should have won the drivers' title - but Alonso crashed in China and Hamilton botched things up in China and Brazil - and had the constructors' championship stolen by the FIA.

agreed under the circumstances McLaren showed how strong they were to take it to the wire while the Ferrari instigated politics was happening!

[7UpJordan]

And in the midst of all this hoo-hah Coulthard makes a fool of himself once again and wrecks Nakajima's race in the process. Coulthard's become the "De Crasheris" of the current F1 field.

[Gaz]

and had the constructors' championship stolen by the FIA.

No they didn't. They cheated and were fairly punished accordingly.

here we go again..

[EwanM]

Mclaren are certainly not unravelling: But Hamilton certainly is.

After the race he left the circuit in anger, but had to come back (probably Daddy said). Mclaren know how to win titles, they realise that sometimes you have to finish 2nd or 3rd on the day, but still receieve big points.
Hamilton though doesn't get that, the man is in a position where he could be champion, but risking himself by going all out.
And his fighting talk ain't helping him.
What have I always been saying - he believe's his own hype in a very very bad way.
I do hope he's a bit more careful next weekend, cause if Mclaren lose because of him, that would be s***.

[bud]

Mclaren are certainly not unravelling: But Hamilton certainly is.

After the race he left the circuit in anger, but had to come back (probably Daddy said). Mclaren know how to win titles, they realise that sometimes you have to finish 2nd or 3rd on the day, but still receieve big points.
Hamilton though doesn't get that, the man is in a position where he could be champion, but risking himself by going all out.
And his fighting talk ain't helping him.
What have I always been saying - he believe's his own hype in a very very bad way.
I do hope he's a bit more careful next weekend, cause if Mclaren lose because of him, that would be s***.

I understand what youre saying, he didnt need to fight for First place but thats easy to say in the blink of an eye when you can see the P1 infront of you!
but if you take the BS penalty and the BS move by Kamakaze he would have been in a fairly strong position point wise!

Not liking Lewis because your an Alonso fan is one thing but not seeing BS right infront of your eyes is another!

[EwanM]

Mclaren are certainly not unravelling: But Hamilton certainly is.

After the race he left the circuit in anger, but had to come back (probably Daddy said). Mclaren know how to win titles, they realise that sometimes you have to finish 2nd or 3rd on the day, but still receieve big points.
Hamilton though doesn't get that, the man is in a position where he could be champion, but risking himself by going all out.
And his fighting talk ain't helping him.
What have I always been saying - he believe's his own hype in a very very bad way.
I do hope he's a bit more careful next weekend, cause if Mclaren lose because of him, that would be s***.

I understand what youre saying, he didnt need to fight for First place but thats easy to say in the blink of an eye when you can see the P1 infront of you!
but if you take the BS penalty and the BS move by Kamakaze he would have been in a fairly strong position point wise!

Not liking Lewis because your an Alonso fan is one thing but not seeing BS right infront of your eyes is another!

No read back in this forum - I actual disagree with the penalty.

[racechick]

Mclaren are certainly not unravelling: But Hamilton certainly is.

After the race he left the circuit in anger, but had to come back (probably Daddy said). Mclaren know how to win titles, they realise that sometimes you have to finish 2nd or 3rd on the day, but still receieve big points.
Hamilton though doesn't get that, the man is in a position where he could be champion, but risking himself by going all out.
And his fighting talk ain't helping him.
What have I always been saying - he believe's his own hype in a very very bad way.
I do hope he's a bit more careful next weekend, cause if Mclaren lose because of him, that would be s***.

How do you know he left the circuit in anger? He got back mighty quickly, about 10mins at most after the race ended he was being interviewed when incidentaly he admitted to makng a mistake and said that in hindsight of course he would have done differently. But he had to make a split second decision and i dont think he needs people who have never turned a wheel in anger to keep telling him it was a wrong decison.