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[KyrosV]

- and normal pens work in space

is that correct? i thought the basic functions of ink pens involved gravity?

its true look it up, I think biros are pressured so they would work. try writting upside down

biros dont work upside down

yeah they do, im doing it now.... and getting funny looks..

[Denthúl]

- and normal pens work in space

is that correct? i thought the basic functions of ink pens involved gravity?

its true look it up, I think biros are pressured so they would work. try writting upside down

biros dont work upside down

I'm constantly writing with my BiC biro upside down and haven't noticed any lack of it working.

[racechick]

Well i must be doing something wrong when Im upside doen then. Mine only works for a little while , then runs dry

[bud]

- and normal pens work in space

is that correct? i thought the basic functions of ink pens involved gravity?

its true look it up, I think biros are pressured so they would work. try writting upside down

biros dont work upside down

yeah they do, im doing it now.... and getting funny looks..

you mean more funnier looks than normal

[Denthúl]

Well i must be doing something wrong when Im upside doen then. Mine only works for a little while , then runs dry

Well, I can't write upside down with my cheap Tesco biros, but the sealed BiC ones work like a treat.

[racechick]

Well i must be doing something wrong when Im upside doen then. Mine only works for a little while , then runs dry

Well, I can't write upside down with my cheap Tesco biros, but the sealed BiC ones work like a treat.

Ah that must be it then! Cheap tools with no staying power!!

[Denthúl]

Well i must be doing something wrong when Im upside doen then. Mine only works for a little while , then runs dry

Well, I can't write upside down with my cheap Tesco biros, but the sealed BiC ones work like a treat.

Ah that must be it then! Cheap tools with no staying power!!

Yes.

I've no idea why I'd ever want a pen that can write upside down, to be honest. I couldn't concentrate long enough to write anything worth noting (although, I could make it a challenge to try to do all my NaNoWriMo writing upside down!).

[Gaz]

dam, i was looking forward to seeing more clowning around

[vintage]

ive been waiting for this to happen. like said above, it works perfect in an empty pit, but that rarely happens. its screwed up ferrari so much already, its too late to come back from those mistakes

[McLaren Fan]

Disappointing news. As I said before, the lights system has many advantages, so Ferrari should not just look at the bad points, but the positives as well.

[KyrosV]

- and normal pens work in space

is that correct? i thought the basic functions of ink pens involved gravity?

its true look it up, I think biros are pressured so they would work. try writting upside down

biros dont work upside down

yeah they do, im doing it now.... and getting funny looks..

you mean more funnier looks than normal

Cained

[Martin]

Disappointing news. As I said before, the lights system has many advantages, so Ferrari should not just look at the bad points, but the positives as well.

You say "as I said before" but I cant find your previous post MF. I just cannot see any advantage of lights over lollipop, and if Ferrari plan to use both then that is just plain stupid.
I really do not know what advantages the light system has - please explain. Thanks.

[bud]

Disappointing news. As I said before, the lights system has many advantages, so Ferrari should not just look at the bad points, but the positives as well.

You say "as I said before" but I cant find your previous post MF. I just cannot see any advantage of lights over lollipop, and if Ferrari plan to use both then that is just plain stupid.
I really do not know what advantages the light system has - please explain. Thanks.

the advantage is taking away the reaction time of the lollipop man seeing the nozzle released, then raising the lollipop then the drivers reaction time to the lollipop being raised. probably 1 second in all of that.

compared to this system where the only reaction time is the drivers reaction to the light going green, which would be green as soon as the nozzle has been released.

obviously though its flawed when there is a congested pitlane

[Dardas]

Disappointing news. As I said before, the lights system has many advantages, so Ferrari should not just look at the bad points, but the positives as well.

You say "as I said before" but I cant find your previous post MF. I just cannot see any advantage of lights over lollipop, and if Ferrari plan to use both then that is just plain stupid.
I really do not know what advantages the light system has - please explain. Thanks.

The biggest advantage of this for MF is that Ferrari is screwing their own drivers
That's what he had in mind I believe

[Martin]

Disappointing news. As I said before, the lights system has many advantages, so Ferrari should not just look at the bad points, but the positives as well.

You say "as I said before" but I cant find your previous post MF. I just cannot see any advantage of lights over lollipop, and if Ferrari plan to use both then that is just plain stupid.
I really do not know what advantages the light system has - please explain. Thanks.

the advantage is taking away the reaction time of the lollipop man seeing the nozzle released, then raising the lollipop then the drivers reaction time to the lollipop being raised. probably 1 second in all of that.

compared to this system where the only reaction time is the drivers reaction to the light going green, which would be green as soon as the nozzle has been released.

obviously though its flawed when there is a congested pitlane

Thanks Bud, I really doubt that the delay is as much as a second though. I have been both lollipop man and driver in the past (not F1) and, when I was lollipop my eyes where totally focussed on the last man working on the car - as soon as he moved to finish the job (wheels or fuel) I was lifting the lollipop, I would say that I was reacting to him finishing his job a couple of hundredths after he did. At the time of my reaction the mechanic would be just starting to move to finish, by the time the driver was off the mechanic was away from the car. As I understand it, the reason Massa got the green light too soon was because the fuel rig operator pressed his 'clear' button too soon. Well, if the rig operator has to press a button does that not equate to a lollipop reaction time? I really think that the benefits, if any, are marginal, and the safety risks are high as has been demonstrated.
To be safe, a lights system would need an automatic sensor detecting the proximity and speed of other cars in the pit lane as well as fuel rig detectors. What if other work is done on the car?, say new nose cone, and the fuelling is finished before that work? It means that we are back to the manual control of the lights, as it is supposed to be with cars in the pit lane now. Point- there is an override system supposed to be operated by someone watching the pit lane. So why did Massa get the green light when there was another car in the pit lane? 2 Ferrari errors in 1 !