- 26 Sep 08, 20:29#68260The Mclaren camp, I hope you recognize how I always say 'camp' and not 'lambs', is alway's defending the notion that they have NO team order's but now you seem to be justifying it's merit's strictly for the benefit of your team? I'm confused by your mentality regarding this subject but I will keep an open mind if offered a reasonable explanation. 
Oh, for f*** sake. 
McLaren has not team orders at the start of the season and does not use team orders unless: a) both drivers are messing up one another's strategy at certain parts of the race and b) one driver is not in the title hunt any longer. That is not the same thing that Michael Schumacher and Ferrari did from 1996 to 2006.
This is one of the things i find hard to accept. This difference in accepted philosophy. On the one hand you have a team deciding who its winner will be before the season starts

On the other you have a team placing its weight behind a driver that by mid season(or later) has demonstrated by driving and point scoring that he is in a much , much superior position to win the championship. One is pre meditated race rigging, one is common sense for a team seaking championship success.
You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Abe Lincoln
Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln