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[rjsync]

Hamilton has beaten Alonso in McLaren.
Heiki is not Hamilton's level.
Put everyone else in the same car I still think Hamilton will be top.
If you say this about Ham being lucky then goes the same for Shumi.
To me Hamilton is absolutely the greatest F1 driver alive, retired or not.

[darwin dali]

To me Hamilton is absolutely the greatest F1 driver alive, retired or not.

[Mikep99]

To me Hamilton is absolutely the greatest F1 driver alive, retired or not.

Clear logical statement with not a hint of BIAS



Exactly why I like giving it to the Hamophile's evey chance I get.
They are as credible as the GOD they worship

[Mikep99]

Not sure where I should post these because they will get lambasted by the Hamophiles, so I think this is the safest place.


Anyway I think this guy makes perfect sense.
He mirrors just about everything I have been saying all along, but much more eloquently

Anyway just my opinion.

Time for F1 loser Lewis Hamilton to get back on track

http://www.sportingo.com/formula/motorsport/a10354_time-loser-lewis-hamilton-get-back-track
OK, with four races to go anything can still happen, but it’s becoming ever more apparent that the biggest threat to Lewis Hamilton winning a Formula One title is... Lewis Hamilton.

There is no doubt that Hamilton is a prodigious talent. His car control during the treacherous conditions of the 2008 Belgian Grand Prix is testament to his skill as a driver but, then again, it’s not his skill that has been called into question – it’s the mistakes.

Much has been made of the controversy surrounding Hamilton’s 25-second penalty for gaining an advantage by cutting the chicane whilst duelling with Ferrari rival Kimi Raikkonen. Some pundits have even gone so far as to claim that it is part of an ongoing FIA conspiracy against McLaren.

The problem with that argument is that it is Hamilton himself whose actions invite the wrath of the stewards. He has, time and again, made rookie mistakes that have cost him dearly.

Looking back to 2007, the problems were all of his own doing. After a tremendous start to the season, Hamilton dropped his team in the poo by publicly complaining about team orders, something that the FIA frown upon.
The 2007 Japanese Grand Prix saw Hamilton accused of erratic driving behind the pace car that, according to fellow drivers, resulted in the crash of Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel. However, as video evidence wasn’t available, Hamilton was cleared of any wrongdoing.

Hamilton could have clinched the championship in China, but managed to beach the car in a gravel trap on the entrance to pit lane and was out of the race. Despite that, his lead in the championship was such that any kind of decent points finish would have seen him claim the title in the final race.

History tells us that Hamilton made more errors and, coupled with a gearbox problem, finished the race in the highest position possible to guarantee that he still missed out on the championship.

The 2008 season has seen controversy follow Hamilton yet again. After the perfect start, Hamilton drew the wrath of the stewards for blocking in qualifying and earned a five-place penalty on the starting grid and ultimately costing him points – probably.

Then there was the strange and inexplicable Canadian GP incident in which he slammed into the back of Raikkonen after ignoring a pit lane exit red light. This incident saw him penalised ten grid places for the French GP, where he again managed to get into trouble.

This time Hamilton cut a chicane (sound familiar?) after an overtaking manoeuvre on Sebastian Vettel. Hamilton and McLaren maintained that he had completed the overtaking move before running off the road. It was an argument that didn’t wash and so, after a drive-through penalty, Hamilton finished out of the points for the second race in a row.
Fast-forward to Spa. It is pretty clear that Hamilton was the only person who was going to win the Belgian GP. The McLaren was coping with the conditions much better than the prancing horse, all of which is interesting, but irrelevant. To argue that Hamilton did not gain an advantage after jumping the chicane – even after handing the place back – is silly.

There is a consensus amongst current drivers that had Hamilton taken the chicane properly, there is no way that he would have been in a position to pass Raikkonen at La Source. Had there been a physical barrier at that corner, instead of a white line, would he have tried the overtaking manoeuvre that allowed Kimi to squeeze him over the chicane? Of course not, and that is the key point in this whole argument.

Sure, he would have got him sooner or later, but it was a failure of patience that did Lewis in. The only real argument in this case is whether the penalty fits the “crime”, but what other options were there? The standard penalty for this type of transgression is a drive-through or, in lieu of that, a 25 second penalty.

As the kerfuffle surrounding Hamilton’s relegation to third place in the wake of the Spa race finally begins to peter out with his appeal given the treatment it deserves, we can get back to deciding the outcome of the championship on-track, the way it’s supposed to be.

Is Lewis Hamilton the most arrogant man in Formula 1?

http://www.sportingo.com/motorsport/a10351_lewis-hamilton-most-arrogant-man-formula

If anyone has any doubt as to why opinion is divided about Lewis Hamilton, then his conduct at his appeal hearing should help explain things. While he gave a spirited defence of his actions at the Belgian Grand Prix, the manner in which he did it would have raised some eyebrows.

Under cross examination by Nigel Tozzi – Ferrari’s legal counsel – Hamilton dismissed the legitimacy of his questions because Tozzi is not a Formula One driver. When Tozzi responded by saying that he was under instruction from Ferrari, who would know as much about F1 as Hamilton, the young Brit is reported to have responded “With respect, I doubt it”.

That’s a pretty arrogant response from someone who has been in the game for about 18 months, compared to Ferrari’s 58 years. The BBC also reports Hamilton as having said: "I have been a racing driver since I was eight years old and I know pretty much every single manoeuvre in the book, and that's why I'm the best at my job.''

"We are talking about a skilled driver under intense pressure making a split-second decision which no one, not unless they are in Formula One, can comprehend."

Yes Lewis, you’re very special – we get it.

But at the heart of all of this is the fact that Hamilton cut the chicane and his reason for this was “we had a great battle and there was no need to take stupid risks, so I had to cut the chicane”. Now, I’m not an F1 driver, so my opinion isn’t valid in Hamilton world, but I think that he didn’t have to cut the chicane, he shouldn’t have put himself in that position in the first place.

And that’s what makes this whole arrogant stance so laughable. If he hadn’t started a manoeuvre that he had no chance of completing, none of this other stuff would have been necessary. He may be driven by perfection, but he still has a fair way to drive in that regard.

There is already a degree of resentment about the fact that Hamilton has been parachuted into a car with the potential to secure a championship, without having to go through the apprenticeship that seems to be obligatory for nearly every other driver.

That’s not to suggest that he is without talent – the opposite is clearly true – but there are many other very talented drivers who will never get the chance to attack a season in a car good enough to go all the way. His critics would argue that it was his lack of experience which cost him last year’s title and has made this year’s tilt that much harder.

And so, on to Singapore and the experiment of a night race. Whatever the outcome of Hamilton’s appeal, the stakes just got a little bit higher.

[billindenver]

Time for F1 loser Lewis Hamilton to get back on track

http://www.sportingo.com/formula/motorsport/a10354_time-loser-lewis-hamilton-get-back-track
OK, with four races to go anything can still happen, but it’s becoming ever more apparent that the biggest threat to Lewis Hamilton winning a Formula One title is... Lewis Hamilton.

There is no doubt that Hamilton is a prodigious talent. His car control during the treacherous conditions of the 2008 Belgian Grand Prix is testament to his skill as a driver but, then again, it’s not his skill that has been called into question – it’s the mistakes.

Much has been made of the controversy surrounding Hamilton’s 25-second penalty for gaining an advantage by cutting the chicane whilst duelling with Ferrari rival Kimi Raikkonen. Some pundits have even gone so far as to claim that it is part of an ongoing FIA conspiracy against McLaren.

The problem with that argument is that it is Hamilton himself whose actions invite the wrath of the stewards. He has, time and again, made rookie mistakes that have cost him dearly.

Looking back to 2007, the problems were all of his own doing. After a tremendous start to the season, Hamilton dropped his team in the poo by publicly complaining about team orders, something that the FIA frown upon.
The 2007 Japanese Grand Prix saw Hamilton accused of erratic driving behind the pace car that, according to fellow drivers, resulted in the crash of Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel. However, as video evidence wasn’t available, Hamilton was cleared of any wrongdoing.

Hamilton could have clinched the championship in China, but managed to beach the car in a gravel trap on the entrance to pit lane and was out of the race. Despite that, his lead in the championship was such that any kind of decent points finish would have seen him claim the title in the final race.

History tells us that Hamilton made more errors and, coupled with a gearbox problem, finished the race in the highest position possible to guarantee that he still missed out on the championship.

The 2008 season has seen controversy follow Hamilton yet again. After the perfect start, Hamilton drew the wrath of the stewards for blocking in qualifying and earned a five-place penalty on the starting grid and ultimately costing him points – probably.

Then there was the strange and inexplicable Canadian GP incident in which he slammed into the back of Raikkonen after ignoring a pit lane exit red light. This incident saw him penalised ten grid places for the French GP, where he again managed to get into trouble.

This time Hamilton cut a chicane (sound familiar?) after an overtaking manoeuvre on Sebastian Vettel. Hamilton and McLaren maintained that he had completed the overtaking move before running off the road. It was an argument that didn’t wash and so, after a drive-through penalty, Hamilton finished out of the points for the second race in a row.
Fast-forward to Spa. It is pretty clear that Hamilton was the only person who was going to win the Belgian GP. The McLaren was coping with the conditions much better than the prancing horse, all of which is interesting, but irrelevant. To argue that Hamilton did not gain an advantage after jumping the chicane – even after handing the place back – is silly.

There is a consensus amongst current drivers that had Hamilton taken the chicane properly, there is no way that he would have been in a position to pass Raikkonen at La Source. Had there been a physical barrier at that corner, instead of a white line, would he have tried the overtaking manoeuvre that allowed Kimi to squeeze him over the chicane? Of course not, and that is the key point in this whole argument.

Sure, he would have got him sooner or later, but it was a failure of patience that did Lewis in. The only real argument in this case is whether the penalty fits the “crime”, but what other options were there? The standard penalty for this type of transgression is a drive-through or, in lieu of that, a 25 second penalty.

As the kerfuffle surrounding Hamilton’s relegation to third place in the wake of the Spa race finally begins to peter out with his appeal given the treatment it deserves, we can get back to deciding the outcome of the championship on-track, the way it’s supposed to be.

Is Lewis Hamilton the most arrogant man in Formula 1?

http://www.sportingo.com/motorsport/a10351_lewis-hamilton-most-arrogant-man-formula

If anyone has any doubt as to why opinion is divided about Lewis Hamilton, then his conduct at his appeal hearing should help explain things. While he gave a spirited defence of his actions at the Belgian Grand Prix, the manner in which he did it would have raised some eyebrows.

Under cross examination by Nigel Tozzi – Ferrari’s legal counsel – Hamilton dismissed the legitimacy of his questions because Tozzi is not a Formula One driver. When Tozzi responded by saying that he was under instruction from Ferrari, who would know as much about F1 as Hamilton, the young Brit is reported to have responded “With respect, I doubt it”.

That’s a pretty arrogant response from someone who has been in the game for about 18 months, compared to Ferrari’s 58 years. The BBC also reports Hamilton as having said: "I have been a racing driver since I was eight years old and I know pretty much every single manoeuvre in the book, and that's why I'm the best at my job.''

"We are talking about a skilled driver under intense pressure making a split-second decision which no one, not unless they are in Formula One, can comprehend."

Yes Lewis, you’re very special – we get it.

But at the heart of all of this is the fact that Hamilton cut the chicane and his reason for this was “we had a great battle and there was no need to take stupid risks, so I had to cut the chicane”. Now, I’m not an F1 driver, so my opinion isn’t valid in Hamilton world, but I think that he didn’t have to cut the chicane, he shouldn’t have put himself in that position in the first place.

And that’s what makes this whole arrogant stance so laughable. If he hadn’t started a manoeuvre that he had no chance of completing, none of this other stuff would have been necessary. He may be driven by perfection, but he still has a fair way to drive in that regard.

There is already a degree of resentment about the fact that Hamilton has been parachuted into a car with the potential to secure a championship, without having to go through the apprenticeship that seems to be obligatory for nearly every other driver.

That’s not to suggest that he is without talent – the opposite is clearly true – but there are many other very talented drivers who will never get the chance to attack a season in a car good enough to go all the way. His critics would argue that it was his lack of experience which cost him last year’s title and has made this year’s tilt that much harder.

And so, on to Singapore and the experiment of a night race. Whatever the outcome of Hamilton’s appeal, the stakes just got a little bit higher.

Absolutely Fantastic. Bravo.

[Mikep99]

Absolutely Fantastic. Bravo.

He nailed it right on the head I think

But what the F**K do I know eh

[McLaren Fan]

Time for F1 loser Lewis Hamilton to get back on track

http://www.sportingo.com/formula/motorsport/a10354_time-loser-lewis-hamilton-get-back-track
OK, with four races to go anything can still happen, but it’s becoming ever more apparent that the biggest threat to Lewis Hamilton winning a Formula One title is... Lewis Hamilton.

There is no doubt that Hamilton is a prodigious talent. His car control during the treacherous conditions of the 2008 Belgian Grand Prix is testament to his skill as a driver but, then again, it’s not his skill that has been called into question – it’s the mistakes.

Much has been made of the controversy surrounding Hamilton’s 25-second penalty for gaining an advantage by cutting the chicane whilst duelling with Ferrari rival Kimi Raikkonen. Some pundits have even gone so far as to claim that it is part of an ongoing FIA conspiracy against McLaren.

The problem with that argument is that it is Hamilton himself whose actions invite the wrath of the stewards. He has, time and again, made rookie mistakes that have cost him dearly.

Looking back to 2007, the problems were all of his own doing. After a tremendous start to the season, Hamilton dropped his team in the poo by publicly complaining about team orders, something that the FIA frown upon.
The 2007 Japanese Grand Prix saw Hamilton accused of erratic driving behind the pace car that, according to fellow drivers, resulted in the crash of Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel. However, as video evidence wasn’t available, Hamilton was cleared of any wrongdoing.

Hamilton could have clinched the championship in China, but managed to beach the car in a gravel trap on the entrance to pit lane and was out of the race. Despite that, his lead in the championship was such that any kind of decent points finish would have seen him claim the title in the final race.

History tells us that Hamilton made more errors and, coupled with a gearbox problem, finished the race in the highest position possible to guarantee that he still missed out on the championship.

The 2008 season has seen controversy follow Hamilton yet again. After the perfect start, Hamilton drew the wrath of the stewards for blocking in qualifying and earned a five-place penalty on the starting grid and ultimately costing him points – probably.

Then there was the strange and inexplicable Canadian GP incident in which he slammed into the back of Raikkonen after ignoring a pit lane exit red light. This incident saw him penalised ten grid places for the French GP, where he again managed to get into trouble.

This time Hamilton cut a chicane (sound familiar?) after an overtaking manoeuvre on Sebastian Vettel. Hamilton and McLaren maintained that he had completed the overtaking move before running off the road. It was an argument that didn’t wash and so, after a drive-through penalty, Hamilton finished out of the points for the second race in a row.
Fast-forward to Spa. It is pretty clear that Hamilton was the only person who was going to win the Belgian GP. The McLaren was coping with the conditions much better than the prancing horse, all of which is interesting, but irrelevant. To argue that Hamilton did not gain an advantage after jumping the chicane – even after handing the place back – is silly.

There is a consensus amongst current drivers that had Hamilton taken the chicane properly, there is no way that he would have been in a position to pass Raikkonen at La Source. Had there been a physical barrier at that corner, instead of a white line, would he have tried the overtaking manoeuvre that allowed Kimi to squeeze him over the chicane? Of course not, and that is the key point in this whole argument.

Sure, he would have got him sooner or later, but it was a failure of patience that did Lewis in. The only real argument in this case is whether the penalty fits the “crime”, but what other options were there? The standard penalty for this type of transgression is a drive-through or, in lieu of that, a 25 second penalty.

As the kerfuffle surrounding Hamilton’s relegation to third place in the wake of the Spa race finally begins to peter out with his appeal given the treatment it deserves, we can get back to deciding the outcome of the championship on-track, the way it’s supposed to be.

Spurious bullpoo.

[Mikep99]

Time for F1 loser Lewis Hamilton to get back on track

http://www.sportingo.com/formula/motorsport/a10354_time-loser-lewis-hamilton-get-back-track
OK, with four races to go anything can still happen, but it’s becoming ever more apparent that the biggest threat to Lewis Hamilton winning a Formula One title is... Lewis Hamilton.

There is no doubt that Hamilton is a prodigious talent. His car control during the treacherous conditions of the 2008 Belgian Grand Prix is testament to his skill as a driver but, then again, it’s not his skill that has been called into question – it’s the mistakes.

Much has been made of the controversy surrounding Hamilton’s 25-second penalty for gaining an advantage by cutting the chicane whilst duelling with Ferrari rival Kimi Raikkonen. Some pundits have even gone so far as to claim that it is part of an ongoing FIA conspiracy against McLaren.

The problem with that argument is that it is Hamilton himself whose actions invite the wrath of the stewards. He has, time and again, made rookie mistakes that have cost him dearly.

Looking back to 2007, the problems were all of his own doing. After a tremendous start to the season, Hamilton dropped his team in the poo by publicly complaining about team orders, something that the FIA frown upon.
The 2007 Japanese Grand Prix saw Hamilton accused of erratic driving behind the pace car that, according to fellow drivers, resulted in the crash of Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel. However, as video evidence wasn’t available, Hamilton was cleared of any wrongdoing.

Hamilton could have clinched the championship in China, but managed to beach the car in a gravel trap on the entrance to pit lane and was out of the race. Despite that, his lead in the championship was such that any kind of decent points finish would have seen him claim the title in the final race.

History tells us that Hamilton made more errors and, coupled with a gearbox problem, finished the race in the highest position possible to guarantee that he still missed out on the championship.

The 2008 season has seen controversy follow Hamilton yet again. After the perfect start, Hamilton drew the wrath of the stewards for blocking in qualifying and earned a five-place penalty on the starting grid and ultimately costing him points – probably.

Then there was the strange and inexplicable Canadian GP incident in which he slammed into the back of Raikkonen after ignoring a pit lane exit red light. This incident saw him penalised ten grid places for the French GP, where he again managed to get into trouble.

This time Hamilton cut a chicane (sound familiar?) after an overtaking manoeuvre on Sebastian Vettel. Hamilton and McLaren maintained that he had completed the overtaking move before running off the road. It was an argument that didn’t wash and so, after a drive-through penalty, Hamilton finished out of the points for the second race in a row.
Fast-forward to Spa. It is pretty clear that Hamilton was the only person who was going to win the Belgian GP. The McLaren was coping with the conditions much better than the prancing horse, all of which is interesting, but irrelevant. To argue that Hamilton did not gain an advantage after jumping the chicane – even after handing the place back – is silly.

There is a consensus amongst current drivers that had Hamilton taken the chicane properly, there is no way that he would have been in a position to pass Raikkonen at La Source. Had there been a physical barrier at that corner, instead of a white line, would he have tried the overtaking manoeuvre that allowed Kimi to squeeze him over the chicane? Of course not, and that is the key point in this whole argument.

Sure, he would have got him sooner or later, but it was a failure of patience that did Lewis in. The only real argument in this case is whether the penalty fits the “crime”, but what other options were there? The standard penalty for this type of transgression is a drive-through or, in lieu of that, a 25 second penalty.

As the kerfuffle surrounding Hamilton’s relegation to third place in the wake of the Spa race finally begins to peter out with his appeal given the treatment it deserves, we can get back to deciding the outcome of the championship on-track, the way it’s supposed to be.

Spurious bullpoo.

[racechick]

Hey statueman. I meant what I said lOOser. You've obviously never heard the chant. Dont worry about it!

[texasmr2]

Sad very very sad .

[racechick]

Not sure where I should post these because they will get lambasted by the Hamophiles, so I think this is the safest place.


Anyway I think this guy makes perfect sense.
He mirrors just about everything I have been saying all along, but much more eloquently

Anyway just my opinion.

Time for F1 loser Lewis Hamilton to get back on track

http://www.sportingo.com/formula/motorsport/a10354_time-loser-lewis-hamilton-get-back-track
OK, with four races to go anything can still happen, but it’s becoming ever more apparent that the biggest threat to Lewis Hamilton winning a Formula One title is... Lewis Hamilton.

There is no doubt that Hamilton is a prodigious talent. His car control during the treacherous conditions of the 2008 Belgian Grand Prix is testament to his skill as a driver but, then again, it’s not his skill that has been called into question – it’s the mistakes.

Much has been made of the controversy surrounding Hamilton’s 25-second penalty for gaining an advantage by cutting the chicane whilst duelling with Ferrari rival Kimi Raikkonen. Some pundits have even gone so far as to claim that it is part of an ongoing FIA conspiracy against McLaren.

The problem with that argument is that it is Hamilton himself whose actions invite the wrath of the stewards. He has, time and again, made rookie mistakes that have cost him dearly.

Looking back to 2007, the problems were all of his own doing. After a tremendous start to the season, Hamilton dropped his team in the poo by publicly complaining about team orders, something that the FIA frown upon.
The 2007 Japanese Grand Prix saw Hamilton accused of erratic driving behind the pace car that, according to fellow drivers, resulted in the crash of Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel. However, as video evidence wasn’t available, Hamilton was cleared of any wrongdoing.

Hamilton could have clinched the championship in China, but managed to beach the car in a gravel trap on the entrance to pit lane and was out of the race. Despite that, his lead in the championship was such that any kind of decent points finish would have seen him claim the title in the final race.

History tells us that Hamilton made more errors and, coupled with a gearbox problem, finished the race in the highest position possible to guarantee that he still missed out on the championship.

The 2008 season has seen controversy follow Hamilton yet again. After the perfect start, Hamilton drew the wrath of the stewards for blocking in qualifying and earned a five-place penalty on the starting grid and ultimately costing him points – probably.

Then there was the strange and inexplicable Canadian GP incident in which he slammed into the back of Raikkonen after ignoring a pit lane exit red light. This incident saw him penalised ten grid places for the French GP, where he again managed to get into trouble.

This time Hamilton cut a chicane (sound familiar?) after an overtaking manoeuvre on Sebastian Vettel. Hamilton and McLaren maintained that he had completed the overtaking move before running off the road. It was an argument that didn’t wash and so, after a drive-through penalty, Hamilton finished out of the points for the second race in a row.
Fast-forward to Spa. It is pretty clear that Hamilton was the only person who was going to win the Belgian GP. The McLaren was coping with the conditions much better than the prancing horse, all of which is interesting, but irrelevant. To argue that Hamilton did not gain an advantage after jumping the chicane – even after handing the place back – is silly.

There is a consensus amongst current drivers that had Hamilton taken the chicane properly, there is no way that he would have been in a position to pass Raikkonen at La Source. Had there been a physical barrier at that corner, instead of a white line, would he have tried the overtaking manoeuvre that allowed Kimi to squeeze him over the chicane? Of course not, and that is the key point in this whole argument.

Sure, he would have got him sooner or later, but it was a failure of patience that did Lewis in. The only real argument in this case is whether the penalty fits the “crime”, but what other options were there? The standard penalty for this type of transgression is a drive-through or, in lieu of that, a 25 second penalty.

As the kerfuffle surrounding Hamilton’s relegation to third place in the wake of the Spa race finally begins to peter out with his appeal given the treatment it deserves, we can get back to deciding the outcome of the championship on-track, the way it’s supposed to be.

Is Lewis Hamilton the most arrogant man in Formula 1?

http://www.sportingo.com/motorsport/a10351_lewis-hamilton-most-arrogant-man-formula

If anyone has any doubt as to why opinion is divided about Lewis Hamilton, then his conduct at his appeal hearing should help explain things. While he gave a spirited defence of his actions at the Belgian Grand Prix, the manner in which he did it would have raised some eyebrows.

Under cross examination by Nigel Tozzi – Ferrari’s legal counsel – Hamilton dismissed the legitimacy of his questions because Tozzi is not a Formula One driver. When Tozzi responded by saying that he was under instruction from Ferrari, who would know as much about F1 as Hamilton, the young Brit is reported to have responded “With respect, I doubt it”.

That’s a pretty arrogant response from someone who has been in the game for about 18 months, compared to Ferrari’s 58 years. The BBC also reports Hamilton as having said: "I have been a racing driver since I was eight years old and I know pretty much every single manoeuvre in the book, and that's why I'm the best at my job.''

"We are talking about a skilled driver under intense pressure making a split-second decision which no one, not unless they are in Formula One, can comprehend."

Yes Lewis, you’re very special – we get it.

But at the heart of all of this is the fact that Hamilton cut the chicane and his reason for this was “we had a great battle and there was no need to take stupid risks, so I had to cut the chicane”. Now, I’m not an F1 driver, so my opinion isn’t valid in Hamilton world, but I think that he didn’t have to cut the chicane, he shouldn’t have put himself in that position in the first place.

And that’s what makes this whole arrogant stance so laughable. If he hadn’t started a manoeuvre that he had no chance of completing, none of this other stuff would have been necessary. He may be driven by perfection, but he still has a fair way to drive in that regard.

There is already a degree of resentment about the fact that Hamilton has been parachuted into a car with the potential to secure a championship, without having to go through the apprenticeship that seems to be obligatory for nearly every other driver.

That’s not to suggest that he is without talent – the opposite is clearly true – but there are many other very talented drivers who will never get the chance to attack a season in a car good enough to go all the way. His critics would argue that it was his lack of experience which cost him last year’s title and has made this year’s tilt that much harder.

And so, on to Singapore and the experiment of a night race. Whatever the outcome of Hamilton’s appeal, the stakes just got a little bit higher.

Even on this thread that was a mega laugh!!!!!

[racechick]

Sad very very sad .

You've lost me again?

[EwanM]

Seizure Alert

[racechick]

Seizure Alert

Yeah!!

[bud]

if you stare at that long enough you can see the music