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[racechick]

Hey folks good as he was you cant go talking legends in his second season!!! Your words not mine!!!

why not ?

Why not? No reason at all!! I was talking legend as regards Lewis in his first year. AS i said. YOUR WORDS NOT MINE!! (You missed that bit!)

[FerrariFan63]

SB was fast too, so the TR seems to be improving. SV drove a great race, I don't want to take anything away from that. But the car looks good too. We were told that the engine rules would mean that smaller teams would get top-flight engines. But there can't be much wrong with that car.

I wish I could have joined everyone with the live chat. But just too much going on this weekend. I didn't even have time to set up a tape, and had to watch the highlights late at night. So much happening that the jumps between action were really confusing.

[Mikep99]

Class with a C

Vettel: Don't compare me to Schumi!
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/169036-0/vettel_dont_compare_me_to_schumi.html

Sebastian Vettel has asked the Formula One media to stop comparing him with countryman Michael Schumacher, insisting that his maiden with Toro Rosso at Monza over the weekend does not warrant comparison.

Already dubbed 'baby Schumi' by the German press, Vettel has made waves since his F1 debut, with BMW Sauber, at last year's US Grand Prix, but finally broke through into the wider consciousness by claiming both pole position and the race victory for the former Minardi team in a remarkable Italian Grand Prix, that saw the expected favourites struggle to come to terms with adverse weather conditions.
Vettel, by contrast, tamed the soaking Monza circuit in qualifying, topping two of the three sessions, and then led from start to finish in the 53-lap race, rarely putting a wheel wrong as he gave, not only Toro Rosso, but sponsor Red Bull a first trip to the top step of the podium.

However, one win - even as the youngest driver ever to take an F1 victory - did not make him the next Michael Schumacher, he insisted, claiming that the seven-time world champion did not bear comparison with any of the current crop of F1 drivers.

"I think, first of all, you have to realise what this guy achieved in the past," he explained, "To compare anybody among us drivers - and, probably, Fernando [Alonso] is the closest, as he's a two-time world champion - I think is a bit ridiculous.

"Obviously, I'm very young, and at a very early stage of my career, but therefore I think there's no need to make a comparison. He's probably one of the best drivers we have ever seen. I'm proud, in a way, because I know him. He's a very nice guy and completely down to earth."

Showing similar qualities, Vettel also admitted that he did not expect to be a frontrunner at every grand prix from now on.

"I won't go to Singapore and feel like a hero and the superstar and expect another race win just like that - it's not going to be like that," he noted, "Where I come from and how I grew up, I am down to earth enough to realise what happened today and to understand the approach for the next races. I have been in similar situations in the past - obviously, not in Formula One as we know - and, obviously, a normal race is difficult for us to win and repeat this kind of result, with pole position and victory, but we will fight."

For next season, the 21-year old is heading to Red Bull's Renault-powered 'senior' team, but he maintains that that is not a backward step, despite observers rightly pointing out that Toro Rosso has had the upper hand in recent races - and has now taken a one-point lead over its sister in the constructors' standings. While next year looks secure, STR's long-term future remains in the hands of Red Bull brand magnate Dietrich Mateschitz, who has threatened to offload the minnow pending clarification of the customer car rules.

"For the future, no matter what happens, next year I am going to race for Red Bull Racing, but I don't see that it's a step backwards," Vettel claimed, "Obviously, we have probably been stronger in the last couple of races, we have been stronger than they were, but there's no secret, I think the package is similar. We have been working very hard, I believe, because many people find the excuse in the engine. I believe that we have a strong engine in the back, with the Ferrari package, but I don't think that's all.

"In the end, you still have to get the job done. People have seen, now, and we have underlined in the last couple of races, that we have a strong package going towards the end of the season, so I hope that we can score some more points. Going into the top ten, last qualifying, I think is still a big success for us as well."

[juggles]

this guy is way too nice, he needs to get meaner.

[racechick]

this guy is way too nice, he needs to get meaner.

Yes he's a sweetie, thats his style. Whatever turns folk on.

[Mikep99]

this guy is way too nice, he needs to get meaner.

Yes he's a sweetie, thats his style. Whatever turns folk on.

Yeh Sab turns me on. Good driver good bloke

By any chance would this be something that turns you on.

Hamilton is not short of self-belief. Some call it confidence. Others - including former Grand Prix drivers of some repute as well as a few current ones - see it as arrogance.

Read this selection of Hamilton quotes following the race:

"There wasn't that much grip out there but I always managed to find it."

"I wouldn't have had a problem." (When asked if the track was driveable on intermediate tyres when he made his first pit stop)

"I'm not surprised (I'm still ahead in the championship) because I drove my arse off and you know what I can do in the wet. I had no doubts in my mind - I knew I could do a good job."

Hearing those comments, it is perhaps not a surprise that some observers at Monza were beginning to wonder whether Hamilton had become so impressed by his own abilities in the wet that they had persuaded him he could walk on water.

Full story here http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7615823.stm

It's just Hammy's style. Whatever turns folk on.

[bud]

Yeah he is arrogant and knows he is good big deal all the F1 drivers know they are good they all think that but would never say it so at least Lewis says what he thinks and doesnt tippy toe around the facts just to please the knowledgeable arm chair detractor.

[Mikep99]

Yeah he is arrogant and knows he is good big deal all the F1 drivers know they are good they all think that but would never say it so at least Lewis says what he thinks and doesnt tippy toe around the facts just to please the knowledgeable arm chair detractor.

Yeh whatever turns folk on

[bud]

Yeah he is arrogant and knows he is good big deal all the F1 drivers know they are good they all think that but would never say it so at least Lewis says what he thinks and doesnt tippy toe around the facts just to please the knowledgeable arm chair detractor.

Yeh whatever turns folk on

na it doesnt turn me on infact it doesnt affect me at all if an F1 driver is arrogant, its expected in such a sport if you dont like it maybe go watch lawn bowls

[racechick]

Yeah he is arrogant and knows he is good big deal all the F1 drivers know they are good they all think that but would never say it so at least Lewis says what he thinks and doesnt tippy toe around the facts just to please the knowledgeable arm chair detractor.

Ditto.
If they didnt think they were the best they wouldnt be there. As Bud says at least Lewis says what he thinks. I actually support him because I think he is the best driver-thats what turns me on. Lewis happens to agree with my view and thats fine.

[headless]

He was soo amazing. I was watching through my fingers so hoping he wouldn't drop it.
Nailbiter like SPA.

[Mikep99]

Yeah he is arrogant and knows he is good big deal all the F1 drivers know they are good they all think that but would never say it so at least Lewis says what he thinks and doesnt tippy toe around the facts just to please the knowledgeable arm chair detractor.

Ditto.
If they didnt think they were the best they wouldnt be there. As Bud says at least Lewis says what he thinks. I actually support him because I think he is the best driver-thats what turns me on. Lewis happens to agree with my view and thats fine.

But there is arrogance and then there is the Hammy.
And it is not a prerequisite to being a great sportsman.
Yeh he say's what he thinks, which just shows what type of a person he really is.
Vettel also showed what he thinks and felt. Much better

I very much doubt that this trait is something you both go out looking for in your social lifes and wish to forster in your kids.
But I could be wrong

I detest it no matter what.

But Yeh whatever turns folk on
And if you approve of it I am more than happy to keep you up to date with more of the same. After all he say's what he thinks & that must mean it's OK.

[racechick]

Yeah he is arrogant and knows he is good big deal all the F1 drivers know they are good they all think that but would never say it so at least Lewis says what he thinks and doesnt tippy toe around the facts just to please the knowledgeable arm chair detractor.

Ditto.
If they didnt think they were the best they wouldnt be there. As Bud says at least Lewis says what he thinks. I actually support him because I think he is the best driver-thats what turns me on. Lewis happens to agree with my view and thats fine.

But there is arrogance and then there is the Hammy.
And it is not a prerequisite to being a great sportsman.
Yeh he say's what he thinks, which just shows what type of a person he really is.
Vettel also showed what he thinks and felt. Much better

I very much doubt that this trait is something you both go out looking for in your social lifes and wish to forster in your kids.
But I could be wrong

I detest it no matter what.

But Yeh whatever turns folk on
And if you approve of it I am more than happy to keep you up to date with more of the same. After all he say's what he thinks & that must mean it's OK.

Perhaps he should turn in to a liar then?? But suddenly that would be the worst thing a sportsman could possibley be wouldnt it! He thinks he's the best and he says so. Others think they are the best and don't say so.
I'll say again, it's Lewis' driving I get excited about, admire, think is fantastic. Why do you have to constantly harp on about his personality?? You dont like him-fine. We get the message. Vettal is a sweet little boy and you do like him-also fine. BUT THEY ARE RACING DRIVERS NOT POLITICIANS!!! It is their racing they are entertaining us with, it is not a personality contest.And if it were I can think of far worse than Lewis.
You say you detest arrogance and yet you are a great fan of Schumacher A little consistency please or you'll be headhunted by the FIA!

[darwin dali]

Yeah he is arrogant and knows he is good big deal all the F1 drivers know they are good they all think that but would never say it so at least Lewis says what he thinks and doesnt tippy toe around the facts just to please the knowledgeable arm chair detractor.

Ditto.
If they didnt think they were the best they wouldnt be there. As Bud says at least Lewis says what he thinks. I actually support him because I think he is the best driver-thats what turns me on. Lewis happens to agree with my view and thats fine.

But there is arrogance and then there is the Hammy.
And it is not a prerequisite to being a great sportsman.
Yeh he say's what he thinks, which just shows what type of a person he really is.
Vettel also showed what he thinks and felt. Much better

I very much doubt that this trait is something you both go out looking for in your social lifes and wish to forster in your kids.
But I could be wrong

I detest it no matter what.

But Yeh whatever turns folk on
And if you approve of it I am more than happy to keep you up to date with more of the same. After all he say's what he thinks & that must mean it's OK.

Perhaps he should turn in to a liar then?? But suddenly that would be the worst thing a sportsman could possibley be wouldnt it! He thinks he's the best and he says so. Others think they are the best and don't say so.
I'll say again, it's Lewis' driving I get excited about, admire, think is fantastic. Why do you have to constantly harp on about his personality?? You dont like him-fine. We get the message. Vettal is a sweet little boy and you do like him-also fine. BUT THEY ARE RACING DRIVERS NOT POLITICIANS!!! It is their racing they are entertaining us with, it is not a personality contest.And if it were I can think of far worse than Lewis.
You say you detest arrogance and yet you are a great fan of Schumacher A little consistency please or you'll be headhunted by the FIA!

So, are you equally excited and turned on by FA's driving? I think FA is a darn good driver, yet I don't like him for his personality.

[Mikep99]

Yeah he is arrogant and knows he is good big deal all the F1 drivers know they are good they all think that but would never say it so at least Lewis says what he thinks and doesnt tippy toe around the facts just to please the knowledgeable arm chair detractor.

Ditto.
If they didnt think they were the best they wouldnt be there. As Bud says at least Lewis says what he thinks. I actually support him because I think he is the best driver-thats what turns me on. Lewis happens to agree with my view and thats fine.

But there is arrogance and then there is the Hammy.
And it is not a prerequisite to being a great sportsman.
Yeh he say's what he thinks, which just shows what type of a person he really is.
Vettel also showed what he thinks and felt. Much better

I very much doubt that this trait is something you both go out looking for in your social lifes and wish to forster in your kids.
But I could be wrong

I detest it no matter what.

But Yeh whatever turns folk on
And if you approve of it I am more than happy to keep you up to date with more of the same. After all he say's what he thinks & that must mean it's OK.

Perhaps he should turn in to a liar then?? But suddenly that would be the worst thing a sportsman could possibley be wouldnt it! He thinks he's the best and he says so. Others think they are the best and don't say so.
I'll say again, it's Lewis' driving I get excited about, admire, think is fantastic. Why do you have to constantly harp on about his personality?? You dont like him-fine. We get the message. Vettal is a sweet little boy and you do like him-also fine. BUT THEY ARE RACING DRIVERS NOT POLITICIANS!!! It is their racing they are entertaining us with, it is not a personality contest.And if it were I can think of far worse than Lewis.
You say you detest arrogance and yet you are a great fan of Schumacher A little consistency please or you'll be headhunted by the FIA!

racechick your just showing how emotionally attached you are to your boy.
Is he family of something ?????????
You would stick up for him no matter what. That's your call.
So all the other drivers don't say what they think. Whats your proof. Is it because they don't come out with crap like Hammy does. You might be right but then again maybe just maybe they are saying what they think & are nothing like the Hammeroide.

I go for the complete package. They are the ones that get my respect.
Would he give a sh!t he does not have my respect. NO
So we are all happy. I think he is a w***er (but talanted driver) & he could not give a sh!t what I think.

Don't know where you get the schumy comment from. I have never said I adore him. Your just clutching at straws here.
And like I have said before. I defy you to find anything that comes close in quantity & quality of what the Hammeroide comes out with.
Also take note or this.
7 WDC v 2 years in F1

Is it a licence to be arrogant. No, but some would say it is more excusable I think. (But I would say the arrogance are on two different levels any how)

If Hammy drove for Ferrari. Good he is a good driver but I would still call him a w***er every time he opened his mouth.

Anyway I would prefer Vettel or Robert any day of the week.
Respect there driving & characters. Complete package.