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[Mikep99]

You're in argumentative mood tonight Mike. You enjoy pressing peoples buttons dont you!

So you call a logical observation argumentative.

[Mikep99]

How Ironic.
Now a Ferrari driver is being criticized for not helping out his team mate.

Ferrari don't seem to be able to win can they.

Dammed if they do Dammed if they don't.

In this case, one driver is not in the picture anymore, so it's the sensible thing to do.

Yeh we know their is always an excuse.

It is NEVER the same thing.

Do you see a pattern here by any chance

Let me break this down for you. Massa has a great chance of winning the title. Raikkonen, unless a miracle from God occurs, has no chance of winning the title. McLaren are in a similar position with their drivers: Hamilton has a great chance to win the title and Kovalainen never looked like winning it. Should Raikkonen take points of Massa, therefore, Hamilton stands a better chance of winning the title. Is this good for Ferrari? No.

Yeh I understand this mate.
But you know what I am really getting at. Don't you

[Hanwombat]

How Ironic.
Now a Ferrari driver is being criticized for not helping out his team mate.

Ferrari don't seem to be able to win can they.

Dammed if they do Dammed if they don't.

All truth be told, Kimi isn't performing to the standard of Massa.

[bud]

How Ironic.
Now a Ferrari driver is being criticized for not helping out his team mate.

Ferrari don't seem to be able to win can they.

Dammed if they do Dammed if they don't.

In this case, one driver is not in the picture anymore, so it's the sensible thing to do.

Yeh we know their is always an excuse.

It is NEVER the same thing.

Do you see a pattern here by any chance

Let me break this down for you. Massa has a great chance of winning the title. Raikkonen, unless a miracle from God occurs, has no chance of winning the title. McLaren are in a similar position with their drivers: Hamilton has a great chance to win the title and Kovalainen never looked like winning it. Should Raikkonen take points of Massa, therefore, Hamilton stands a better chance of winning the title. Is this good for Ferrari? No.

Yeh I understand this mate.
But you know what I am really getting at. Don't you

but the main difference with this and the past criticism of Ferrari is atleast Kimi and Felipe at the start of this season had championship dreams. in the past with Rubens and Michael, it was Rubens who started the season there to help his Mike.

So McLaren fan isnt being hypocritical here if you ask me

[racechick]

You're in argumentative mood tonight Mike. You enjoy pressing peoples buttons dont you!

So you call a logical observation argumentative.

You know the difference, you've had it explained and i dont think you're stupid. logical conclusion-you're trying to wind up Bud or McLaren Fan

[FerrariFan63]

From a practical point of view, Massa will be more likely to win the championship if Raikkonen pitches in.

But we haven't see a situation where KR is leading FM. Perhaps KR's claims that he won't yet support FM for the championship are just that, words. Maybe if we see a race where KR is just ahead of FM at the end, that KR will give way.

[bud]

But we haven't see a situation where KR is leading FM. Perhaps KR's claims that he won't yet support FM for the championship are just that, words. Maybe if we see a race where KR is just ahead of FM at the end, that KR will give way.

he overtook Massa at Spa

[FerrariFan63]

he overtook Massa at Spa

And there's been the Spa result, and also the Monza result since then. Things may have changed. I was talking about what Kimi is currently saying (or not saying) and what might or might not happen in the future.

Edit: Although rereading my post shows that my language is sloppy and doesn't really mean what I meant. ("We haven't seen a situation where...").

[f1maniac95]

I think Kimi Raikkonen should just back Massa for the title his results just have'nt been gone enpugh for him to win it and I think his confidence is down because of his poor results.

[Denthúl]

But we haven't see a situation where KR is leading FM. Perhaps KR's claims that he won't yet support FM for the championship are just that, words. Maybe if we see a race where KR is just ahead of FM at the end, that KR will give way.

he overtook Massa at Spa

Yes, he did. But mathematically he had a much better chance of taking the championship at Spa than he does at Singapore. At Spa, he was by far the better driver of the top three right until the rain fell, at which point Hamilton took over. Spa could really have been the turning point for Raikkonen, especially if Massa had found a little more pace towards the end of the race. Ultimately, he still wouldn't have made much progress, but he'd be in Kubica's situation now, albeit with a much better car.

[darwin dali]

Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali has dropped a big hint that the balance of reigning World Champion Kimi Raikkonen's 2008 campaign will be spent helping teammate Felipe Massa to the title.
Domenicali told the press: "Our main interest is the team and the drivers know it."
"Of course Kimi will do his best to be as aggressive as possible but also consider the fact that Felipe is much closer to Lewis," the Italian added.

[McLaren Fan]

How Ironic.
Now a Ferrari driver is being criticized for not helping out his team mate.

Ferrari don't seem to be able to win can they.

Dammed if they do Dammed if they don't.

In this case, one driver is not in the picture anymore, so it's the sensible thing to do.

Yeh we know their is always an excuse.

It is NEVER the same thing.

Do you see a pattern here by any chance

Let me break this down for you. Massa has a great chance of winning the title. Raikkonen, unless a miracle from God occurs, has no chance of winning the title. McLaren are in a similar position with their drivers: Hamilton has a great chance to win the title and Kovalainen never looked like winning it. Should Raikkonen take points of Massa, therefore, Hamilton stands a better chance of winning the title. Is this good for Ferrari? No.

Yeh I understand this mate.
But you know what I am really getting at. Don't you

but the main difference with this and the past criticism of Ferrari is atleast Kimi and Felipe at the start of this season had championship dreams. in the past with Rubens and Michael, it was Rubens who started the season there to help his Mike.

So McLaren fan isnt being hypocritical here if you ask me

Correct, bud. As far as I'm concerned, both drivers should start the season with an equal chance of winning the championship. If one drops out of contention, i.e. what Raikkonen did for certain after the Belgian Grand Prix, then he should be his teammate's rear-gunner for the benefit of the team.

[Frosty]

I think Kimi should get behind Massa mostly because i don't think he deserves to get the WDC title, come to think of it the only driver who i think has done really well and does deserve it is Kubica the only one to constantly perform.

[Mikep99]

So McLaren fan isnt being hypocritical here if you ask me

Why ain't I Clicky

[Matkins]