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[FerrariFan63]

Will the effect of getting KERS right or wrong be so much, that next year's championship will be defined by whom gets it right or wrong?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70466

If so, big advantage to those teams who can stop developing this year's car.

[Kiwi_Chris]

It will be interesting, im getting less and less certain that the top teams will be running a KERS system from the start of the season, my guess is that there could be more implentation later in the season. But i doubt it will become a championship decider

[f1maniac95]

I think there won't be many teams running KERS for at least not the first half of the season but a few might start running it later.

[McLaren Fan]

I think so, too. Some teams seem to be pretty positive about it, particularly BMW and Williams, so I expect to see them using it from more or less the start of the season. McLaren are in favour of the technology, but aren't sure whether or not it would be beneficial, so may even hedge their bets and design two different cars: one without KERS and one with it. Toyota seem to have been the biggest skeptics of KERS, so I would not be surprised to see it on their cars for until at least the second half of the season. I'm not surprised to learn that Ferrari are struggling, for they are a team that has always seemed to favour retaining the status quo. Next season will be interesting anyway. I look forward to seeing how the weight penalty and problems with weight distribution versus being able to use a boost function will play out.

[McLaren Fan]

Well, there you have it, just in the last hour:

From F1 Live:

After it emerged that four teams will test KERS systems at Jerez next week, it now appears that Toyota and Renault will not be ready to run the new 2009 technology until January.

Toyota's engine chief Luca Marmorini confirmed the news, to the Swiss publication Motorsport Aktuell.

Renault engineering boss Pat Symonds, meanwhile, says the French team's decision to delay the KERS debut until early next year is fundamentally for economic reasons.

"We came to the conclusion that the construction of a transitional car is simply not worth it," the Briton is quoted as saying.

Source: GMM
© CAPSIS International

[Denthúl]

I think so, too. Some teams seem to be pretty positive about it, particularly BMW and Williams, so I expect to see them using it from more or less the start of the season. McLaren are in favour of the technology, but aren't sure whether or not it would be beneficial, so may even hedge their bets and design two different cars: one without KERS and one with it. Toyota seem to have been the biggest skeptics of KERS, so I would not be surprised to see it on their cars for until at least the second half of the season. I'm not surprised to learn that Ferrari are struggling, for they are a team that has always seemed to favour retaining the status quo. Next season will be interesting anyway. I look forward to seeing how the weight penalty and problems with weight distribution versus being able to use a boost function will play out.

Could that see BMW Sauber really having the advantage over McLaren and Ferrari next year? Let's say, hypothetically, that their early-2009 focus pays off and puts them on terms with the silver and red cars - would KERS allow them enough of an advantage to beat them?

[texasmr2]

Ferrari's engine technical director Gilles Simon says the Italian squad are struggling with the development of the Kinetic Energy Recovery System.

KERS will be introduced in Formula One next season, but some teams have been having a hard time with the initial development and some doubt it will be ready in time for the start of 2009.

Simon backed the view that it is unlikely all teams will have a reliable system at the start of the season, and the Frenchman admitted his own team are struggling to come to grips with it.

"The Kinetic Energy Recovery System is a complex subject, which finds us dealing with a lot of new and complicated areas, while ensuring that we still devote all necessary efforts into continuing our usual development programme on the current year car," said Simon.

"It will be really challenging to run this system next year. We are learning every day, but we are struggling and I think that all teams will struggle to run the new system reliably right from the opening race of the 2009 season.

"Next year, with KERS as well as the other rule change allowing the use of an electronic front flap adjuster (on the front wing,) electronics will play a very big role and the common ECU will have to be fully understood in order to operate these new elements successfully."

Simon also told Autosprint magazine that he thought not all teams will benefit from the use of KERS equally.

"Managing to recharge the system under braking shouldn't be taken for granted," he said. "Just like the system's reliability shouldn't be taken for granted. Same goes for that 80-BHP figure seen in the race, will that be the same at the end of the race?

"Those who get the project right will have an enormous advantage on their hands."

autosport.com

[7UpJordan]

If Ferrari fall behind as a result of not getting the new device to work, they'll be KERSing themselves for sure.


I'll get me coat...

[McLaren Fan]

If Ferrari fall behind as a result of not getting the new device to work, they'll be KERSing themselves for sure.


I'll get me coat...

[texasmr2]

Atleast KERS is optional for '09 and so then we can view the outcome and opinion's from the team's at the end of the season. KERS could be setback a few year's or given a few more season's for development or taken away all together, who know's?

[FerrariFan63]

If Ferrari fall behind as a result of not getting the new device to work, they'll be KERSing themselves for sure.


I'll get me coat...

Surely in the world of the McLaren fans, if Ferrari were to be disadvantaged by KERS, the FIA would delay its introduction. In fact some McLaren lambs might suggest that Ferrari would be given the information that KERS is to be delayed well ahead of the other teams, to turn their disadvantage into an advantage.

[al4x]

If Ferrari fall behind as a result of not getting the new device to work, they'll be KERSing themselves for sure.


I'll get me coat...

haha joke

id hope to see renault with it, they usuallly do well with this sort of thing

fingers crossed!