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#64341
Taken from Autosport website, written by Jonathan Noble Wednesday, September 10th 2008, 17:48 GMT

Pat Symonds, Renault, 2008Renault director of engineering Pat Symonds believes Lewis Hamilton was hard done with his Belgian Grand Prix penalty - and reckons the controversy will only harm attempts to make the sport more exciting.

Speaking on the official Renault podcast Formula One podcast in the wake of Hamilton being stripped of victory for gaining an advantage by cutting a chicane, the highly respected Symonds sees nothing wrong with the way that Hamilton let Raikkonen retake the lead as they battled at Spa-Francorchamps.

And although rubbishing accusations in the media and from fans that the penalty was evidence of a bias towards Ferrari by F1's chiefs, he thinks there are implications from the controversy that could result in drivers being less willing to take risks in the future.

"As it happened in real time, we were talking on the intercom and said: 'Wow that was definitely a situation where he has to give the place back,'" he said. "I guess we weren't that surprised when the stewards were found to be investigating it. Having looked at it again, I feel very, very sorry for Lewis. I think he has been very hard done
by.

"It raises lots of interesting questions, and I am not talking about 'Are the FIA on the side of Ferrari?' We have to believe that they are impartial, the sport would not exist if we didn't believe that. But I think it does call into question [the sport's] philosophy, because everyone is saying we need more overtaking in Formula One, we need more excitement, and we need more personalities.

"And yet it seems to me that everything that actually happens seems to be against that.

"Here we had a great race with people really challenging each other and for why? If it's taken away, then why take that risk?"

Symonds has looked at video replays of the incident since Sunday's race and now believes that Hamilton had complied with the rules and not gained an advantage by cutting the chicane.

"To me the facts are quite clear in retrospect. I have had a look at the videos, I've had a look at the published data which shows that Lewis was nearly 7 km/h slower than Raikkonen across the line, you can quite clearly see on the in-car camera that he lets him get completely in front, and in my view Raikkonen just braked very early.

"Lewis went inside him, and if you look at the in-car camera stuff, Lewis drove around the hairpin very easily. He didn't have a big slide, he didn't have to correct it, he hadn't gone in too deep and come out wide, it was a perfectly legitimate manouevre, and it wasn't that much later that Raikkonen went past him.

"This is racing, this is what we want."

And Symonds believes that more should be done to improve the speed by which decisions are made.

"I think motor racing should be like football, not like cricket," he said, with stewards taking two hours to decide on Hamilton's punishment on Sunday night. "Let's have action, let's know what is going on in real time, not wait for two days to find out the result."
#64345
Taken from Autosport website, written by Jonathan Noble Wednesday, September 10th 2008, 17:48 GMT

Pat Symonds, Renault, 2008Renault director of engineering Pat Symonds believes Lewis Hamilton was hard done with his Belgian Grand Prix penalty - and reckons the controversy will only harm attempts to make the sport more exciting.

Speaking on the official Renault podcast Formula One podcast in the wake of Hamilton being stripped of victory for gaining an advantage by cutting a chicane, the highly respected Symonds sees nothing wrong with the way that Hamilton let Raikkonen retake the lead as they battled at Spa-Francorchamps.

And although rubbishing accusations in the media and from fans that the penalty was evidence of a bias towards Ferrari by F1's chiefs, he thinks there are implications from the controversy that could result in drivers being less willing to take risks in the future.

"As it happened in real time, we were talking on the intercom and said: 'Wow that was definitely a situation where he has to give the place back,'" he said. "I guess we weren't that surprised when the stewards were found to be investigating it. Having looked at it again, I feel very, very sorry for Lewis. I think he has been very hard done
by.

"It raises lots of interesting questions, and I am not talking about 'Are the FIA on the side of Ferrari?' We have to believe that they are impartial, the sport would not exist if we didn't believe that. But I think it does call into question [the sport's] philosophy, because everyone is saying we need more overtaking in Formula One, we need more excitement, and we need more personalities.

"And yet it seems to me that everything that actually happens seems to be against that.

"Here we had a great race with people really challenging each other and for why? If it's taken away, then why take that risk?"

Symonds has looked at video replays of the incident since Sunday's race and now believes that Hamilton had complied with the rules and not gained an advantage by cutting the chicane.

"To me the facts are quite clear in retrospect. I have had a look at the videos, I've had a look at the published data which shows that Lewis was nearly 7 km/h slower than Raikkonen across the line, you can quite clearly see on the in-car camera that he lets him get completely in front, and in my view Raikkonen just braked very early.

"Lewis went inside him, and if you look at the in-car camera stuff, Lewis drove around the hairpin very easily. He didn't have a big slide, he didn't have to correct it, he hadn't gone in too deep and come out wide, it was a perfectly legitimate manouevre, and it wasn't that much later that Raikkonen went past him.

"This is racing, this is what we want."

And Symonds believes that more should be done to improve the speed by which decisions are made.

"I think motor racing should be like football, not like cricket," he said, with stewards taking two hours to decide on Hamilton's punishment on Sunday night. "Let's have action, let's know what is going on in real time, not wait for two days to find out the result."

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#64356
Brilliantly put by Symonds. He's more than just a cattle/Piquet/Fisichella prod wielder. :)
#64416
well said Mr Symonds, especially glad he's pointed out that Kimi braked far too early, that seems quite an important piece of the jigsaw to me.

You can tell from the footage as well that Raikkonen had no traction coming out of corners and the car was poor under braking. I think that was a big factor in things as well. Also important is how Raikkonen surrendered the inside line to Hamilton.
#64419
Symonds nailed it on the head! in all facets :clap:
i think its just bullpoo we are even having to discuss this! we should be talking about the Monza GP but no as usual on F1 forums... very little about the sport is talked about. only scandals and how much we hate certain drivers is the topic of the day! :thumbdown:
#64784
From F1 Live:

Renault has distanced itself from comments made by one of its prominent chiefs in the wake of Lewis Hamilton's controversial Belgian Grand Prix penalty.

Pat Symonds, the Enstone based team's veteran engineering boss, said the fact the McLaren driver lost his Spa Francorchamps victory could be a further deterrent to overtaking.

"I think it does call into question (F1's) philosophy," Symonds said, "because everyone is saying we need more overtaking, we need more excitement, and we need more personalities," he said.

"And yet it seems to me that everything that actually happens seems to be against that."

Renault, whose team boss Flavio Briatore was at Monza nominated a director of the new F1 teams' FOTA alliance, distanced itself from Symonds' comments.

"The team states that Pat Symonds was expressing his personal opinion on the matter and that his comments were not representing in any way the team's position," a statement read.

E.A, Source: GMM
© CAPSIS International


Why are Renault distancing themselves from Symonds comments? [Rubs chin.]
#64786
From F1 Live:

Renault has distanced itself from comments made by one of its prominent chiefs in the wake of Lewis Hamilton's controversial Belgian Grand Prix penalty.

Pat Symonds, the Enstone based team's veteran engineering boss, said the fact the McLaren driver lost his Spa Francorchamps victory could be a further deterrent to overtaking.

"I think it does call into question (F1's) philosophy," Symonds said, "because everyone is saying we need more overtaking, we need more excitement, and we need more personalities," he said.

"And yet it seems to me that everything that actually happens seems to be against that."

Renault, whose team boss Flavio Briatore was at Monza nominated a director of the new F1 teams' FOTA alliance, distanced itself from Symonds' comments.

"The team states that Pat Symonds was expressing his personal opinion on the matter and that his comments were not representing in any way the team's position," a statement read.

E.A, Source: GMM
© CAPSIS International

Why are Renault distancing themselves from Symonds comments? [Rubs chin.]

I wonder if Flavio didn't take too kindly to those comments?

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