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[welshie]

I have to say that I believe that Atlantis existed and still exists in some form.
Generally, myths have some basis in reality and we have evidence for a number of cities that have subsided into the ocean. For example, part of Greek Alexandria fell into the ocean, and you can still find evidence of habitation under the water. It is true that over time the myth has been embellished time and again, with the addition of technology and various abilities attributed to the Atlanteans, but this happens with most mythology.

I am sure that in time the issue will be resolved as long as we can strip down the myth to its bare bones and work on theories. I think it may involve tectonic shifts which led to an earthquake in which the place known to us as Atlantis sank. Plus, to be fair there is far too much evidence in mythology that there laid a city called "Atlantis".

The evidence is big if we could go into deph but very hard on this forum. Basically from what I have studied, the continent of Atalantis went down or sunk around 40,000 years ago due to Earthquakes etc. These were cause by the Alantians themselves with all their mining etc. Apparently they were advanced enough to have basic flying machines (Never to be seen again until AD 1903), uncontroled nuclear explosions (Never to be seen again circa AD 1940s) and lasers (Never to be seen again circa AD 1960s). This means this human knowlege was lost for over 40,000 years! Imagine it wasn't? How advanced would we be now? Surely we would be travelling the stars and galaxies by now..........................

40k years ago? Utter ! You sound like that nutcase von Däniken, to my chagrin a Swiss

[madbrad]

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Hopefully it does not happen on a race weekend.

Indeed! If the astreroid impact comittee has any courtesy they will put it off 'til Monday.

[texasmr2]

I found this pic and was like oh damn better put the shag mobile into high gear!!

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[Rivelution]

I'm afraid no defence system would work against a rock that big!

Where is Bruce Willis when you need him??

[AKR]

Glad to hear that Kiki but the fact still remain's that I want the name calling and other 5th grade remark's to stop or atleast save them for a PM.

Enough said about that right so man that's one big stone, I would hate to try and 'pass it' !

I agree Tex, the name calling should stop. Remember that I have called no one any bad names. That was our friend Bud. But in this instance lucky him that I take no offence to it and thus all is fine.

[AKR]

Nothing to take outside mate, either the name calling stop's or further action's will be taken it is as simple as that.

Tex, just let it go. He has called me far worse names in private and I have taken no offense to it. Infact he has sort of apologised by blaming his anger due to the fact that his mother is Scotish and he gets it from her. But it is all ok. But just so you know I didn't provoke this at all. Bud didnt like what I was saying and simply got angry. Bud was intelligent enough to discuss the matter with me in private and in the end it was all sorted and we are all friends.

a scottish temper is a terrible genetic trait its derived and passed down from years of English oppression

Umm so I guess I get my arrogance then from my mum as well. She is Croatian and Croats are usually arrogant I would say.............

[Hanwombat]

I'm afraid no defence system would work against a rock that big!

Where is Bruce Willis when you need him??

Sadly he is no longer with us, after destroying the last one

[Rivelution]

I'm afraid no defence system would work against a rock that big!

Where is Bruce Willis when you need him??

Sadly he is no longer with us, after destroying the last one

Its Ben Affleck's turn now

[Hanwombat]

Not Ben
Well actually hes getting a bit older now...hmmm
No not Ben

[Raider Monkz]

If an Asteroid of that size was going to hit Earth would Jupiter's large Gravity not pull it towards it?

[bud]

If an Asteroid of that size was going to hit Earth would Jupiter's large Gravity not pull it towards it?

the suns gravity is stronger

[IceManpjn]

If an Asteroid of that size was going to hit Earth would Jupiter's large Gravity not pull it towards it?

If it passes close enough to Jupiter, then yes. However, our solar system is absolutely massive, so unless both asteroid and Jupiter happen to be in the right places at the right time, it's unlikely.

I'm going to drop a couple interesting notes related to collisions of giant asteroids. I don't know whether or not these have come up since, honestly, I didn't really read most of the replies here because it looked like a bunch of bickering over Atlantis. If these have already been mentioned, I apologize for repeating them.

1) Regardless of what we see in the movies, blowing up an asteroid isn't a realistic hope for us. Unless the asteroid happens to be explosive, it won't magically disintegrate into nothingness or small chunks of rocks and pebbled, but rather would simply break up into many still-huge chunks that would effectively change it from a giant bullet to giant buckshot. Instead of one giant impact, we'd have thousands all over the place, which can even be worse than had it collided in one piece.

2) The largest impact the Earth is believed to have witnessed occurred about four billion years ago when the planet Theia collided with our planet. Theia struck Earth at a glancing angle, its iron core smashing into our planet and its mantle being ejected violently into space around us. Within less than a century that ejecta coalesced into what is today our moon, and Earth became substantially larger from what it gained from Theia. At this point, the moon was a heck of a lot closer to us than it is today, as it continues to slowly drift away from us.

I just thought that last bit was interesting. I know people that find it difficult to accept that even car-sized rocks can and do periodically collide with the Earth, so accepting that we've been struck by a planet is a difficult pill for many people to swallow.

[Raider Monkz]

If an Asteroid of that size was going to hit Earth would Jupiter's large Gravity not pull it towards it?

If it passes close enough to Jupiter, then yes. However, our solar system is absolutely massive, so unless both asteroid and Jupiter happen to be in the right places at the right time, it's unlikely.

I'm going to drop a couple interesting notes related to collisions of giant asteroids. I don't know whether or not these have come up since, honestly, I didn't really read most of the replies here because it looked like a bunch of bickering over Atlantis. If these have already been mentioned, I apologize for repeating them.

1) Regardless of what we see in the movies, blowing up an asteroid isn't a realistic hope for us. Unless the asteroid happens to be explosive, it won't magically disintegrate into nothingness or small chunks of rocks and pebbled, but rather would simply break up into many still-huge chunks that would effectively change it from a giant bullet to giant buckshot. Instead of one giant impact, we'd have thousands all over the place, which can even be worse than had it collided in one piece.

2) The largest impact the Earth is believed to have witnessed occurred about four billion years ago when the planet Theia collided with our planet. Theia struck Earth at a glancing angle, its iron core smashing into our planet and its mantle being ejected violently into space around us. Within less than a century that ejecta coalesced into what is today our moon, and Earth became substantially larger from what it gained from Theia. At this point, the moon was a heck of a lot closer to us than it is today, as it continues to slowly drift away from us.
I just thought that last bit was interesting. I know people that find it difficult to accept that even car-sized rocks can and do periodically collide with the Earth, so accepting that we've been struck by a planet is a difficult pill for many people to swallow.

Yea I saw that on some T.V Channel it's drifting away at about 3cm a year.

[AKR]

If an Asteroid of that size was going to hit Earth would Jupiter's large Gravity not pull it towards it?

If it passes close enough to Jupiter, then yes. However, our solar system is absolutely massive, so unless both asteroid and Jupiter happen to be in the right places at the right time, it's unlikely.

I'm going to drop a couple interesting notes related to collisions of giant asteroids. I don't know whether or not these have come up since, honestly, I didn't really read most of the replies here because it looked like a bunch of bickering over Atlantis. If these have already been mentioned, I apologize for repeating them.

1) Regardless of what we see in the movies, blowing up an asteroid isn't a realistic hope for us. Unless the asteroid happens to be explosive, it won't magically disintegrate into nothingness or small chunks of rocks and pebbled, but rather would simply break up into many still-huge chunks that would effectively change it from a giant bullet to giant buckshot. Instead of one giant impact, we'd have thousands all over the place, which can even be worse than had it collided in one piece.

2) The largest impact the Earth is believed to have witnessed occurred about four billion years ago when the planet Theia collided with our planet. Theia struck Earth at a glancing angle, its iron core smashing into our planet and its mantle being ejected violently into space around us. Within less than a century that ejecta coalesced into what is today our moon, and Earth became substantially larger from what it gained from Theia. At this point, the moon was a heck of a lot closer to us than it is today, as it continues to slowly drift away from us.

I just thought that last bit was interesting. I know people that find it difficult to accept that even car-sized rocks can and do periodically collide with the Earth, so accepting that we've been struck by a planet is a difficult pill for many people to swallow.

The only way to stop an asteriod from hitting Earth is to some how defelct it and change its trajectory so it misses.

By the way that Theia story interests me. I didn't know this. I suspect knowledge of this was gained in very much the same way as most of the Atlantis and Cydonia information was. Where can I find more stuff on Theia? I guess I can do my many searches but if you know of a good website let me know.