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#63584
naahh he was full throttle

only kimi was faster because he took the the track properly..

hammy wasnt very sporting and didnt make it easy for kimi, he was supposed to let him pass

He was trying to bend the rules and you know it

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#63585
From F1 Live:

Former Ferrari driver and triple world champion Niki Lauda hit out at the stewards' decision on Sunday to strip Lewis Hamilton of his Belgian Grand Prix victory.

The forceful reaction of the British press was expected, with the Daily Mail correspondent Jonathan McEvoy labelling the 23-year-old McLaren driver the 'victim of a conspiracy against McLaren,' with the FIA heading a 'polluted sport.'

But Lauda, the former champion, spoke on behalf of much of the wider international paddock population.

"This is the worst judgment in the history of F1," he slammed. "The most perverted judgment I have ever seen.

"It's absolutely unacceptable when three functionaries (the stewards) influence the championship like this," Lauda added.

There may, however, be little recourse for McLaren, despite the British team's notification of its intention to appeal the decision in the International Court of Appeal.

Hamilton's 25-second adjunct was technically a drive-through penalty, which could not be served because the incident occurred so close to the end of the race. Drive-throughs cannot be appealed.

Source: GMM
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#63587
F1 shoots itself in the foot
Felipe Massa, Lewis Hamilton, Belgian GP 2008 © The Cahier Archive
Lewis Hamilton scored a wonderful win over Ferrari at Spa on Sunday, snatching victory from Kimi Raikkonen in the dying moments of the race, as rain began to fall on the Belgian circuit. It was a terrific race, with plenty of spectacular action. There was no shortage of scrambling in the final few minutes with a number of drivers stretching the rules as they did everything they could to make it to the flag. But when it came to handing out punishments, the stewards concentrated on Hamilton. In Valencia a fortnight ago Felipe Massa was investigated for "unsafe release" from his Ferrari pit. His penalty normally would have been a 10s stop and go penalty, which would have denied him victory. Instead Felipe was fined. At Spa a McLaren was in the firing line and the decision was very different. A 25secs penalty dropped Hamilton from first to third.

"I would be surprised if there was a penalty," Hamilton said before the stewards' decision. "This is motor racing and if there is a penalty something is wrong. It was fair and square, it would be absolutely wrong if that happens, but we know what they're like."

Everyone in Formula 1 knew exactly what Hamilton meant - and millions of spectators across the world as well. Whether the FIA likes it or not there is a widely-held belief that Ferrari is always favoured by the decision-makers, particularly if McLaren is involved. The FIA argues that this is not the case, but who believes it these days? There have been too many decisions like this. The actual decision is really irrelevant. Hopefully Hamilton will direct his frustrations and win the World Championship without needing the points he lost at Spa. The key question is whether the FIA can find a way to restore some faith in the sport. People are tired of such rubbish, particularly as the credibility of the FIA is at an all-time low after the Mosley Scandal.

We're not saying that there is a giant conspiracy against McLaren, but all too often it looks that way. It happens time and time again. And when the boot is on the other foot the decisions seem to be different. In F1 circles it is called "the red car rule". People just do not believe it any longer. And that is scary because if they stop believing in the sport, then we are lost. It is really not clear what Hamilton was supposed to do after the incident. He ran across the chicane and then carefully backed off and allowed Raikkonen to repass him. At the next corner Hamilton was able to scramble ahead and, after another gripping skirmish at Pouhon that lap, he went on to win as Raikkonen blew his chances of victory by first spinning and then crashing out of the race in the damp conditions.

Hamilton made no such mistakes and took what was an impressive victory.

In those wild laps Raikkonen did a number of things that might also have been punished. He appeared to use the high-friction run-off areas at Pouhon to gain advantage and close right up to Hamilton. He then clearly overtook Hamilton at a point where there was a waved yellow flag. He did not mean to do it, he was avoiding a collision with Nico Rosberg, who was rejoining the race after a spin, but it is also clear that Hamilton was doing everything he could do to avoid gaining an advantage from what he had done.

"We look at all our data and also made it available to the FIA stewards," McLaren said in a statement. "It showed that having lifted Lewis was 6kmh slower than Kimi as they crossed the start finish line. Having passed the lead back to Kimi, Lewis repositioned his car, moving across and behind Kimi to the right-hand line and then outbraked him into the hairpin. Based on this data, we have no option other than to register our intention to appeal. We are a racing team and will now focus on Monza, with a view to extending our lead in the Drivers' World Championship."


http://www.grandprix.com/race/r798racereport.html
#63588
That article is very telling, bud. Here's Hamilton's side of the story:

From F1 Live:

Lewis Hamilton, speaking prior to the penalty that would drop him from first to third position in the Belgian Grand Prix, said stewards were 'wrong' to strip him the race win at Spa Francorchamps.

Before the 25-second penalty was added to his finishing time for an alleged illegal overtaking move on Kimi Raikkonen, the McLaren driver answered 'absolutely not' when asked if he felt he did anything wrong with two laps to go.

"I left him enough room, yet he picked up more pace going into the corner, and drove me as wide as he possibly could," said Hamilton, referring to the moment before he cut the final chicane.

The championship leader, whose penalty cost him six points in the title fight with Ferrari's Felipe Massa, said he had to cut the chicane or hit Raikkonen.

He said he then obeyed a radio command to let the Finn re-pass him. It is believed the stewards penalised the 23-year-old because he used the momentum of exiting the chicane escape-road to slipstream the Ferrari and overtake him at La Source.

Hamilton explained: "I was accelerating so that I didn't lose too much ground because I thought that would be unfair."

"I didn't want to wait until he'd flown past because we were still racing. Eventually I could see him accelerating and I knew, ok, this is alright, so I began to accelerate, but slowly. I don't believe I was full throttle, I was waiting for him to accelerate past which he did."

"That was a great fight and I don't think there was anything wrong there."

He told reporters he would be 'absolutely' surprised if stewards issued a penalty. McLaren subsequently declared their intention to appeal.

"What more could I do? I don't know what more I could have done. This is motor racing and if there's a penalty, then there's something wrong. But you know what they're like, so we will see..." Hamilton said.

McLaren Mercedes have not made an official announcement post race.

E.A, Source: GMM
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#63590
We sure do know what "they" are like Lewis!!!

i can only seeing all this s*** that happens to Lewis as making him even stronger you wont break this man he is tooo determined!! i know it sounds corny but to experience what he has in 1.13 seasons imagine a seasoned Hammy.... Fear him Ferrari fear him :wink:

id put money on him winning the next race
#64255
:rofl: Have a look at this Petition

Stop McLaren fans in obstructing the FIA, the sport and the rules

http://www.petitiononline.com/12500014/petition.html

Not doing to good it's only got 10 names so far.

By the way I did not signup................................................... Yet :wink:
#64259
:rofl: Have a look at this Petition

Stop McLaren fans in obstructing the FIA, the sport and the rules

http://www.petitiononline.com/12500014/petition.html

Not doing to good it's only got 10 names so far.

By the way I did not signup................................................... Yet :wink:

I love the way the moron who wrote that tries to sound intelligent when he's clearly as thick as two short planks. Further, the guy hasn't a clue how laws etc. are made. If the stewards interpret the rules one way in a particular incident, they set a precedent that they must follow in the future. That way, everybody knows where they stand and what is expected of him. Finally,

We want FIA and its stewards to act independently and without any pressure from certain group of fans.

The irony. :rolleyes:
#64261
:rofl: Have a look at this Petition

Stop McLaren fans in obstructing the FIA, the sport and the rules

http://www.petitiononline.com/12500014/petition.html

Not doing to good it's only got 10 names so far.

By the way I did not signup................................................... Yet :wink:

I love the way the moron who wrote that tries to sound intelligent when he's clearly as thick as two short planks. Further, the guy hasn't a clue how laws etc. are made. If the stewards interpret the rules one way in a particular incident, they set a precedent that they must follow in the future. That way, everybody knows where they stand and what is expected of him. Finally,

We want FIA and its stewards to act independently and without any pressure from certain group of fans.

The irony. :rolleyes:


yes the damn irony is very irony :hehe:
#64376
63 and growing :hehe:

Looks like Ronny baby has come to his senses too

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#64399
63 and growing :hehe:

Looks like Ronny baby has come to his senses too

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Signiture 55 and 58 are hilarious. :hehe:
#64436
voted, 51365
Trouble is, that no matter how many signatures the arrogant FIA will continue on its own course I suspect, but its worth a try.

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