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[Woolley]

If mclaren turn away from the sport its pretty much finished. e only think that keeps it going is the rivalry for the title and no one willwatch a ferrari white wash every year.

I agree to the point that if F1 loose's McLaren it will not be the same, which is HIGHLY doubtful, but the sport will carry on without them.

Come on - If ferrari left the sport it woud be the same thing. If you keep getting pooed on like Mcclaren do here comes a point where the money men say enough is enough. You put money in to win. If you keep getting corrupt decisions which mean it really damages your winning chances you simply dont feel like puting money in. Not saying they will do it but there has been a lot of rumors about teams leaving and starting their own org.

I never said it would not be the same if Ferrari were to leave, my reply to your question was only regarding McLaren leaving, from your post. In lamen's term's I agreed with you incase you missed it.

Yeah sorry I wasnt saying you were. I just thought you were disagreeing and I ws trying to back my point that without the top teams there is no F1 and Mcalren is the one getting pooed on.

Reading back I know it come across like that tho

[texasmr2]

I will no longer be watching fomula one as the rules are now changed week in, week out to help ferrair and i'm sick off it!!!!!

Jimmy,
As a longtime Ferrari fan I agree with you bro, it is a disgrace to the sport.

[Bertie]

Absolutely ludicrous decision. Time to give up on Formula one. It's a fix.

Tell the FIA what you think of them, they probably wont answer you though unless your from ferrari!
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[Hanwombat]

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Okay
So I have been working ALLLLL DAYYY

Just watch the race, and WHOA hectic last laps, Kimi coming off, cars stumping along

Then I'm like HURRAY Lewis won, and then my mother says to me, ERR NO HE DIDNT

and then I find all this

[7UpJordan]

Absolutely ludicrous decision. Time to give up on Formula one. It's a fix.

Tell the FIA what you think of them, they probably wont answer you though unless your from ferrari!
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Pretend you're from Ferrari then.

[8-ball]

I will no longer be watching fomula one as the rules are now changed week in, week out to help ferrair and i'm sick off it!!!!!

Jimmy,
As a longtime Ferrari fan I agree with you bro, it is a disgrace to the sport.

F1 isn't a sport. It's a farce. And a non funny one at that

[texasmr2]

If mclaren turn away from the sport its pretty much finished. e only think that keeps it going is the rivalry for the title and no one willwatch a ferrari white wash every year.

I agree to the point that if F1 loose's McLaren it will not be the same, which is HIGHLY doubtful, but the sport will carry on without them.

Come on - If ferrari left the sport it woud be the same thing. If you keep getting pooed on like Mcclaren do here comes a point where the money men say enough is enough. You put money in to win. If you keep getting corrupt decisions which mean it really damages your winning chances you simply dont feel like puting money in. Not saying they will do it but there has been a lot of rumors about teams leaving and starting their own org.

I never said it would not be the same if Ferrari were to leave, my reply to your question was only regarding McLaren leaving, from your post. In lamen's term's I agreed with you incase you missed it.

Yeah sorry I wasnt saying you were. I just thought you were disagreeing and I ws trying to back my point that without the top teams there is no F1 and Mcalren is the one getting pooed on.

Reading back I know it come across like that tho

These thing's happen mate.

[texasmr2]

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Okay
So I have been working ALLLLL DAYYY

Just watch the race, and WHOA hectic last laps, Kimi coming off, cars stumping along

Then I'm like HURRAY Lewis won, and then my mother says to me, ERR NO HE DIDNT

and then I find all this

Virtual backrub perhap's!!!

[FerrariFan63]

Well, if people feel this is a fundamental problem, are any of you going to start a petition to be delivered to the FIA? And publicize it far and wide? Or are you going to moan a bit on a single forum and then go back to watching again next week after swearing blind that you'll never watch a F1 race again?

[Denthúl]

Well, if people feel this is a fundamental problem, are any of you going to start a petition to be delivered to the FIA? And publicize it far and wide? Or are you going to moan a bit on a single forum and then go back to watching again next week after swearing blind that you'll never watch a F1 race again?

I'm quite prepared to create an open letter, upload it and attach a form for people to digitally sign if there's enough interest (and, crucially, input) from you folks here.

[Woolley]

funny thing was that I heard yesterday on Q day that they were questioning the treatment and the arguement against was that ferarri work really hard with the FIA and that they have a really good working relationship. Mmmmm

The only good thing is that the media may get behind this and put pressure on the FIA

[onionman]

Well, if people feel this is a fundamental problem, are any of you going to start a petition to be delivered to the FIA? And publicize it far and wide? Or are you going to moan a bit on a single forum and then go back to watching again next week after swearing blind that you'll never watch a F1 race again?

I am ready to support you in this now.

[texasmr2]

Well, if people feel this is a fundamental problem, are any of you going to start a petition to be delivered to the FIA? And publicize it far and wide? Or are you going to moan a bit on a single forum and then go back to watching again next week after swearing blind that you'll never watch a F1 race again?

I believe there is atleast one if not several ongoing petition's against the FIA. Anyone here have link's?

[welshie]

McLaren have lodged a notice of intention to appeal against Lewis Hamilton's demotion to third place in the Belgian Grand Prix, the FIA confirmed on Sunday night.

Hamilton was handed a 25-second penalty for gaining an advantage against then race leader Kimi Raikkonen after cutting the chicane two laps from home at Spa-Francorchamps.

McLaren spent some time on Sunday night evaluating whether they could appeal the penalty, but an FIA statement said that the team had indeed notified the stewards of their intention to appeal.

It means the result of the Belgian Grand Prix will now be decided at a hearing of the FIA's International Court of Appeal.

Ferrari did not hide their criticism of the way Hamilton behaved after cutting the chicane, with their team principal Stefano Domenicali saying he had no doubt the way Hamilton retook the lead was the result of the benefit he had in cutting the chicane.

"Personally, I think it was a little bit extreme," he explained. "It's normal that when you attack that you are racing, but the problem is (of) the advantage that may take by doing a manoeuvre and this is the key point of it, so I think that that's the focus that has to be considered.

"What is really the advantage that you are taking in such conditions that can be used in the second situation at the first corner? That, in my view, is the most important thing. But this is racing."

Domenicali did not wish to make any comments on the decision to impose a 25-second penalty, however.

"As I said to your Italian colleagues, we are not used to commenting on decisions. The only thing I would say is that as soon as we had been summoned by the stewards, we gave our position to the stewards and that was it.

"Then the stewards for sure listened to the Hamilton discussion on that, and that is the decision. On that we don't want to take any further comment."

Ferrari have insisted that they did not lodge any official protest with the race stewards about the matter.

[Woolley]

The whole point is there was no difference. KR bottled it and crashed.