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By Denthúl
#63120
Hey I'm a drunk american/englishman who's family root's have been traced back to 1066 in England and I stagger proudly :hehe: !

PLEASE gentlemen can we get back to discussing the race, pretty please??

What's this about Ferrari protesting bud? What the heck do they have to protest Kimi would have spunout anyway :yes: .


I'm not entirely sure they made protest, but they would have something to gain from it if they were succesful.
So anyway, how come Alonso didn't get 3rd in the end? He was several places ahead of Heidfeld etc before the carnage and they both stopped... :confused: Did Heidfeld come in a lap earlier than him?


I think that Heidfeld was just a shade faster than Alonso, to be honest. Maybe he had a slightly shorter pit stop which contributed to him being able to get past, or maybe a little bit of traffic.


But Alonso must've had at least 25 seconds on Heidfeld, i think...? Hmm, impressive attack by him anyway! Was it only those two who pitted? I know Bourdais didn't... I haven't had time to catch up on this yet, it was so nuts!


Yeah, I think it was just those two.
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By bud
#63123
Lewis Hamilton's victory at the Belgian Grand Prix has been thrown into doubt, with news not only that stewards are probing an incident, but also that Ferrari has lodged an official protest.

Shortly after the championship leader took the chequered flag at the end of a frenetic finish to the 44-lap race at Spa Francorchamps, it emerged that FIA officials would investigate his earlier battle with Kimi Raikkonen.



While the stewards are probing the Bus Stop chicane and La Source incident, it is believed Ferrari have also taken exception to a separate element of Hamilton's racing tactics.
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By Denthúl
#63126
Lewis Hamilton's victory at the Belgian Grand Prix has been thrown into doubt, with news not only that stewards are probing an incident, but also that Ferrari has lodged an official protest.

Shortly after the championship leader took the chequered flag at the end of a frenetic finish to the 44-lap race at Spa Francorchamps, it emerged that FIA officials would investigate his earlier battle with Kimi Raikkonen.



While the stewards are probing the Bus Stop chicane and La Source incident, it is believed Ferrari have also taken exception to a separate element of Hamilton's racing tactics.


It says a seperate element, which could be anything.
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By cap-dude
#63152
Looks like that puts Kimi out of contention. Ferrari need to back Massa right about now, give him the lighter fuel load for the next 5 races. Afterall, Kubica has even overtaken Kimi now. Seriously, where does Kubica keep coming from XD, its great.

Strange today though, both STR's were in front of both BMW's. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't STR back-markers last year. Thats an insane leap to be honest. I think red bull should consider switching engine supplier perhaps.

But anyways, I think we can safely, Spa has provided the most intense race of this year, I've never seen anything like it. Forget Miki's pass on Schuy, this was surely the greatest moment Spa has provided. Though, I did have to laugh at how slow everyone decided to go on the last lap. A crawl doesn't begin to describe it.
Also, bourdais deserved more than that, but thats how racing goes these days.
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By bud
#63156
well Glocks been given a 25 second penalty for passing under yellows taste of things to come from the corrupt boys club :thumbdown:
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By Denthúl
#63157
well Glocks been given a 25 second penalty for passing under yellows taste of things to come from the corrupt boys club :thumbdown:


There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The yellow flags are there for a reason.
#63158
well Glocks been given a 25 second penalty for passing under yellows taste of things to come from the corrupt boys club :thumbdown:


Sure same thing happened with Liuzzi in Japan last year, 25 second pen for passing Sutil and Liuzzi was in the points.
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By bud
#63160
well Glocks been given a 25 second penalty for passing under yellows taste of things to come from the corrupt boys club :thumbdown:


There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The yellow flags are there for a reason.


im not saying there is anything wrong with that.... s*** i was wondering what the yellow flags were when i was karting last :hehe:
By supeindesu
#63163
So anyway, how come Alonso didn't get 3rd in the end? He was several places ahead of Heidfeld etc before the carnage and they both stopped... :confused: Did Heidfeld come in a lap earlier than him?

Heidfeld entered in pits one lap before Alonso to change tyres.
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If Glock passed somebody under the yellow flags, he got what he deserved. Another eejit was Kovalainen. Webber was perfectly entitled to turn into the corner. Kovalainen, whose heart was not completely set on the pass anyway, should have backed off. Because of his stupidity, he lost McLaren yet more constructors' points.

Still, that was not the only thing Kovalainen did wrong today. He cocked up his start and dropped well down the field. He did a great job working his way up the field again after his error, only to mess things up again with the Webber incident. Again, McLaren had the chance to do some damage today with Massa's engine on its second race, the car performing better than expected, a chance of Kovalainen to interfere with Ferrari's strategy and, of course, with Raikkonen dropping it at the end, but it didn't work out like that, not for the first time, and mainly down to Kovalainen. Yes, the guy has potential, but how long is he going to be like this? If McLaren had two drivers doing the business on the track, the team would be well ahead in the constructors' title by now.

Hamilton, himself, was by no means innocent. He made a mistake which could have cost him the win had the race have remained dry. Still, he made up for it in the end with wonderful skill in the wet weather, with some great defensive and overtaking moves. Second only Senna's performance in the 1992 (I think) Belgian Grand Prix.

Webber had another good race. It's a shame he was punted off by Kovalainen. The story if Webber's career really. His teammate, however, was all at see once again. Coulthard has not got the speed anymore and is continuously making contact with people, things that Coulthard himself used to gurn about. He should retire now - before the end of the season. He is embarrassing himself and ruining his reputation as a good driver.

The Toro Rosso's were not surprisingly fast. Bourdais did a really good job, which was not unexpected after his solid qualifying performance. That will go a long way to securing his future with the team. Vettel, too, impressed. His qualifying lap, when you account for fuel levels, was very good. I didn't see much of him in the race, however, because ITV were focused on what was going on at the front for much of the race.

Alonso showed his class all weekend. Piquet, well, another weak performance from him. It looked as though he was getting somewhere a few Grands Prix ago, but it was really one step forward and two backwards.

Williams were nowhere, but Rosberg seems to have done well with a poor car and again showed his superior experience and ability over Nakajima. When Rosberg is on it, which he has not been all the time this season, he makes Nakajima look distinctly mediocre.

Glock also seemed to have had a good race in a slow car. It's a shame he spoiled it by overtaking under the yellow flags.

Sutil did well to creep up into 13th. Again, when there's wet weather around, he seems to move up the time sheets, grid and race positions. With a little more hard work and experience, he will be a super driver.

Heidfeld had a similar kind of afternoon. He doesn't quite have the same pace as Kubica, but he's a savvy character and scores points in changeable conditions. If he gets his qualifying performance sorted, he will be a great foil for Kubica.

Overall, the race was a great spectacle. Even when there was no overtaking, it was great to watch the cars fly around Spa's wonderful corners. The ending of the Grand Prix was the best in years. As far as I'm concerned, Hamilton and McLaren won the Grand Prix fair and square. I shan't discuss the penalty here, for that's been done on another thread. It's tragic that the FIA have ruined an amazing advertisement for Grand Prix racing.
By juggles
#63242
one of the best races I've seen in a long time with an incredible climax, spoiled by the corrupt lemmings who work for the Ferrari Inclined Assholes. Disgrace.
#63244
Ferrari Inclined Assholes.

That's another very valid take on the FIA abbreviation. :)
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By 8-ball
#63245
Forgetting about the penalty Lewis really impressed me today. Supreme skill with wet weather driving answers all of the questions his critics have about his ability to drive a race car. He, Alonso & Kubica are the best drivers in F1 right now without question. On another note it was sad for me a lifelong kimi fan to see him crash out like that. I fear that this is the beginning of the end for Kimi and if it does end this season his career has promise has largely been unfulfilled
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By Hanwombat
#63297
Okay.

So its 7:17 and I have ONLY just seen the race, and I had no idea of the results

So okay, My poor Heikki, the fool, has a extremely slow start, manages to work through the field, then makes a stupid mistake.

I did feel for Kimi, it shows the guy has speed when he puts his mind to it, but he isn't as confident in the wet, and yes I know all the cars were struggling

Great race for Alonso

Nice to see Nick on podium

Toro Rossi, well they performed well

NOW

So I am jumping up and down 'Okay not literally' at the face Lewis has won- This was like 10 minutes ago, then my mother imforms me that he has his victory stripped and handed to MASSA

WELL :censored: YOU FIA!!!!
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