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Im watching the GP2 race and Senna was released from his pit in almost a carbon copy of Massa's release at Valencia. He got some wheelspin which put him close to another car but no contact was made and no car delayed. Sena has a drive through which will stuff his championship. Massa didnt! Where is the consistency here!!
They showed the replay of that on the F1 qualifying program, and it was very similar. What do you expect though, Senna's not driving in a prancing horse.
I get the feeling the stewards were trying to be consistent actually...they imposed a drive through penalty for Chandok (?) last race, so I think they felt they had to penalise Senna, which was a shame. And although it was a similar incident to Massa, it's hard to compare the two because they are different series even if they are roughly the same. I don't think they should have penalised him though
Does anyone know what happened to the driver that had the massive smash mid-way through the race?
And is it just me or is GP2 a lot more interesting than F1 at the moment
The FIA want Pantano to win the title so Senna doesn't get an F1 drive next year. Senna's had some piss-poor luck this year, pit crew fluffing up his stops, and the dogs running out onto the track at Turkey.
As I said in the other thread I think the FIA want Pantano to win the title so Senna doesn't get an F1 drive next year and Buemi gets the Toro Rosso seat instead. What's so good about Buemi anyway? He's not even near Senna in the points standings.
Senna's had some piss-poor luck this year, pit crew fluffing up his stops, and the dogs running out onto the track at Turkey. I don't care if he's made mistakes and is short on experience but you have to admit there is something about him if he can challenge for the GP2 title having had so little racing experience compared to others around him. Afterall it was Ayrton himself and Jo Ramirez who told us to watch for Bruno.
As I said in the other thread I think the FIA want Pantano to win the title so Senna doesn't get an F1 drive next year and Buemi gets the Toro Rosso seat instead. What's so good about Buemi anyway? He's not even near Senna in the points standings.
Senna's had some piss-poor luck this year, pit crew fluffing up his stops, and the dogs running out onto the track at Turkey. I don't care if he's made mistakes and is short on experience but you have to admit there is something about him if he can challenge for the GP2 title having had so little racing experience compared to others around him. Afterall it was Ayrton himself and Jo Ramirez who told us to watch for Bruno.
I completely agree, i absolutely admire Bruno for his achievements in his relatively short career. If he doesn't get into F1 next year, it wont be a disaster, he'll be there the following year by my bets, what team could resist him really?
In todays GP2 race Bruno Senna was given a drive through penalty for an "unsafe release" from the pit bay. The penalty cost the Brazilian the race win and 10 crucial world championship points. Senna commented in an interview after the race that the penalty was not consistent as he himself had been impeded in the pit lanes this season. Also, he said, the officials were not taking track conditions into account that caused him some wheel spin and thus a slow pit exit. Such things, he continued, are "impossible for the team to calculate".
The incident is very reminiscient of Felipe Massa's pit exit at the new Valencia race circuit a fortnight ago. His unsafe pit exit however went unpenalised during the race itself meaning Massa could continue to secure his win. Both of these incidents resulted in side by side cars down a narrow pit lane, and then both Massa and Senna slow up to slot in behind their competitor's car in their respective incidents. Despite the seemingly identical nature of these two incidents Bruno Senna was forced to conceed his win, where as Felipe Massa was not. The debate over the lack of consistency of the officials decisions will surely continue as a result, as well as the suspicions that the officials tend to be more leaniant towards mistakes made by F1 team Ferrari.
As I said in the other thread I think the FIA want Pantano to win the title so Senna doesn't get an F1 drive next year and Buemi gets the Toro Rosso seat instead. What's so good about Buemi anyway? He's not even near Senna in the points standings.
Senna's had some piss-poor luck this year, pit crew fluffing up his stops, and the dogs running out onto the track at Turkey. I don't care if he's made mistakes and is short on experience but you have to admit there is something about him if he can challenge for the GP2 title having had so little racing experience compared to others around him. Afterall it was Ayrton himself and Jo Ramirez who told us to watch for Bruno.
In todays GP2 race Bruno Senna was given a drive through penalty for an "unsafe release" from the pit bay. The penalty cost the Brazilian the race win and 10 crucial world championship points. Senna commented in an interview after the race that the penalty was not consistent as he himself had been impeded in the pit lanes this season. Also, he said, the officials were not taking track conditions into account that caused him some wheel spin and thus a slow pit exit. Such things, he continued, are "impossible for the team to calculate".
The incident is very reminiscient of Felipe Massa's pit exit at the new Valencia race circuit a fortnight ago. His unsafe pit exit however went unpenalised during the race itself meaning Massa could continue to secure his win. Both of these incidents resulted in side by side cars down a narrow pit lane, and then both Massa and Senna slow up to slot in behind their competitor's car in their respective incidents. Despite the seemingly identical nature of these two incidents Bruno Senna was forced to conceed his win, where as Felipe Massa was not. The debate over the lack of consistency of the officials decisions will surely continue as a result, as well as the suspicions that the officials tend to be more leaniant towards mistakes made by F1 team Ferrari.
Well looking at the 2 very much identical incidents it would appear that it is either one of two things. One like you yourself suggested that the FIA is more leaniant towards mistakes made by the GREAT F1 team Ferrari, or 2 they want Pantano to win the GP2 title this year and not Senna. However whichever way you see it I don't care because one Ferrari is Italian and I go for them in F1, and 2 although I like Senna, Pentano is also an Italian driver and I would rather see him win it.
In todays GP2 race Bruno Senna was given a drive through penalty for an "unsafe release" from the pit bay. The penalty cost the Brazilian the race win and 10 crucial world championship points. Senna commented in an interview after the race that the penalty was not consistent as he himself had been impeded in the pit lanes this season. Also, he said, the officials were not taking track conditions into account that caused him some wheel spin and thus a slow pit exit. Such things, he continued, are "impossible for the team to calculate".
The incident is very reminiscient of Felipe Massa's pit exit at the new Valencia race circuit a fortnight ago. His unsafe pit exit however went unpenalised during the race itself meaning Massa could continue to secure his win. Both of these incidents resulted in side by side cars down a narrow pit lane, and then both Massa and Senna slow up to slot in behind their competitor's car in their respective incidents. Despite the seemingly identical nature of these two incidents Bruno Senna was forced to conceed his win, where as Felipe Massa was not. The debate over the lack of consistency of the officials decisions will surely continue as a result, as well as the suspicions that the officials tend to be more leaniant towards mistakes made by F1 team Ferrari.
Well looking at the 2 very much identical incidents it would appear that it is either one of two things. One like you yourself suggested that the FIA is more leaniant towards mistakes made by the GREAT F1 team Ferrari, or 2 they want Pantano to win the GP2 title this year and not Senna. However whichever way you see it I don't care because one Ferrari is Italian and I go for them in F1, and 2 although I like Senna, Pentano is also an Italian driver and I would rather see him win it.
So you agree with inbalance in the sport so long as it favors Italian teams and drivers. Lol. I find you disturbing.
Sorry. I am too patrotic towards Italy and Slovenija. I know what I say is wrong but it is the way I am. At the end of the day it really isn't up to me. If the FIA want to help Ferrari and don't want Senna to win, someone should take it up with them, the FIA.Im watching the GP2 race and Senna was released from his pit in almost a carbon copy of Massa's release at Valencia. He got some wheelspin which put him close to another car but no contact was made and no car delayed. Sena has a drive through which will stuff his championship. Massa didnt! Where is the consistency here!!
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