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#61142
Lauda predicts Massa v. Hamilton for crown.

Tue 19 Aug, 10:56 AM

Niki Lauda has ruled reigning champion Kimi Raikkonen out of the F1 title race unless he starts winning races again.

Three-time world champion Niki Lauda has suggested that this year's world title could be fought out between Lewis Hamilton and Felipe Massa, unless reigning champion Kimi Raikkonen raises his game quickly.

The Finn heads into this weekend's inaugural European Grand Prix on the streets of Valencia trailing Hamilton by five points in the championship race and, despite heading his Ferrari team-mate Massa by three, has not looked on top form for some time.

Although he looked set to win at Magny-Cours before an exhaust problem dropped him behind Massa, Raikkonen has struggled to challenge Hamilton since his team erred on strategy in the British Grand Prix. The world champion finished fourth at Silverstone and sixth in Germany two weeks later, before being handed a podium in Hungary by Massa's demise three laps from home. In each of the last two races, however, the Finn has looked lacklustre - and it is this that Lauda reckons could cost him a shot at title number two.

"Up until now, it has been Massa and Hamilton [who have the edge], because Raikkonen's performance has been going up and down all the time," the Austrian - who drove for both Ferrari and McLaren in his grand prix career - told the official F1 website, "It is very difficult to say [who is the best driver in 2008], as the driver is always connected to his car's performance. You have to look at the two combined. For me, in Budapest it was certainly Massa, but two races before that it was Hamilton."

Asked if Raikkonen could be considered a 'wild card' for the title after his success last year, Lauda wasn't sure that the Finn warranted the label.

"At the moment, clearly not," he insisted.

Despite his opinion, however, Lauda is not convinced that Ferrari is about to throw its weight behind Massa with seven rounds to run.

"This will be automatically resolved at some point but, for the moment, Massa has the edge over Raikkonen from the driver's point of view," he admitted, before conceding that the Scuderia was being matched for strength by its main rival, "At the moment, both teams are even, especially as their drivers do sometimes make mistakes. Massa was doing a perfect job in Budapest, but this did not help him because of his car's engine failure. [Heikki] Kovalainen did a good job in winning the Hungarian Grand Prix, his first race win, but he was very lucky."

With none of the four drivers at Ferrari and McLaren enjoying a trouble-free season, the title fight could come down to the wit and wisdom of their respective teams, although Lauda again admitted that there was little to choose between the veteran Ron Dennis and comparative rookie Stefano Domenicali as the better team leader this year.

"This is very hard to say, as both seem to be even," the Austrian noted, "Ultimately, the result at the end of the season will show who has done a better job."

Raikkonen, meanwhile, admits that he needs to start winning races if he is to remain in the hunt for a second title.

"The Hungarian weekend was quite disappointing for me - the only positive thing is the result," he reflected after the Budapest race, having benefited in more ways than one from Massa's retirement, "Whenever you're able to narrow the gap to the leader, it's very important. I gained more points than any other of my direct competitors, which is pretty positive.

"However, I don't want to deny that the last races didn't go as I wanted. Every time, something strange happened and we didn't manage to find the best possible set-up for the car. We tried to find a good compromise, but it didn't help. We've got to solve that problem now for the upcoming race at Valencia.

"The race will be held at the new street circuit, and I like to discover new tracks. Since I was a child driving in a kart, I always learned quickly to drive on unknown tracks, so I am looking forward to it."


I think I agree with this outcome, but I won't totally rule out Raikkonen or even Kubica. If the Ferraris go through some rough races and BMW takes advantage of that, we could see Hamilton vs. Kubica with Kubica being the winner, of course :)
#61146
I would like to see Massa take the WDC.


me too :)



Me three, I would like to see it. :thumbup:
But Massa just leaves me worrying when the going gets tough.

Hope he proves me wrong
#61148
Lauda predicts Massa v. Hamilton for crown.

Tue 19 Aug, 10:56 AM

Niki Lauda has ruled reigning champion Kimi Raikkonen out of the F1 title race unless he starts winning races again.


No offense to the (shoulda been 2 not 3 times) world champion (Monaco in 84 was a travesty) but that statement is so blatantly obvious as to say absolutely nothing. I've got no beef with Lauda and I actually think its a bit clever to play with the press by saying such obvious nothings , knowing full well they'll be splayed all over the press. But really, ya think the Kimsters got no chance if he doesn't start winning? A regular Nostradamus I'd say :D . Here's my professional analysis, Bolt will win the gold in the 200 if he finishes first. Genius?
#61156
Lauda predicts Massa v. Hamilton for crown.

Tue 19 Aug, 10:56 AM

Niki Lauda has ruled reigning champion Kimi Raikkonen out of the F1 title race unless he starts winning races again.


No offense to the (shoulda been 2 not 3 times) world champion (Monaco in 84 was a travesty) but that statement is so blatantly obvious as to say absolutely nothing. I've got no beef with Lauda and I actually think its a bit clever to play with the press by saying such obvious nothings , knowing full well they'll be splayed all over the press. But really, ya think the Kimsters got no chance if he doesn't start winning? A regular Nostradamus I'd say :D . Here's my professional analysis, Bolt will win the gold in the 200 if he finishes first. Genius?

Lauda is renowned for talking utter kak.

Kimi was miles behind last year and then proceeded to win race after race in the second part of the season by qualifying heavy and going incredibly fast while his opponents were pitting (and coming out in traffic). We know that qualifying is Kimi's Achilles Heel and so does he, so the best way to get around that is to do what he did last year.
#61172
I, too, fail to see anything special in what Lauda has said. Let's face it, we all know Raikkonen has the skill. We also know that when he wakes up, he has the equipment to win the title. The headline created by the journalist is also a farce. Lauda has not ruled out Raikkonen for the title just yet. He's only saying that unless he gets his act together he will not be in the title hunt.

:shrug:
#61190
We know that qualifying is Kimi's Achilles Heel and so does he, so the best way to get around that is to do what he did last year.


Hmm this has the appearance of being true this year but is it really? Not arguing, but it seems that Kimi used to be a great (if not at least pretty good) qualifier. He certainly has some "off the front row" starts this year but he does have 2 poles to Massa's 3. Not that different statistically and I think overall (career) Kimi has a higher pole-to-start percentage than Felipe. Should be interesting.

Seriously though, wouldn't it be more interesting if someone like Lauda busted out a comment like " Kimi's become a Vodka soaked booze hound and he's pissing away the championship. He'd better quit chasing skirts and sleeping till noon and get his head back into the game. Oh and he better get the heck on a treadmill or something or he'll end up looking like Juan Pablo Montoya"

Not that any of that is true mind you but I think it would make for a much more entertaining 3 weeks off. :rofl:

I suppose the number of invites to the hospitality tents may decline a bit for him though.
#61196
Lauda doesn't even wear his trusty Parmalat Cap anymore. :(
#61216
Lauda doesn't even wear his trusty Parmalat Cap anymore. :(


I heard they stopped paying him to wear it! Must be nice.

I'd have still kept wearing it, it's as symbolic as Mansell's 'tache or Coulthard's cubehead.
#61236
For some reason the idea of Massa winning the WDC is a bit surreal. I'm just not convinced he's a good enough driver to join the illustrious names who've won the title. If he does win, it will be a result of Lewis screwing up and Raikkonen having a stale year. I know that whoever leads the points at the end deserves to win, and I felt for him as much as anyone after Hungary, but seeing his name up in the hall of fame would just look slightly out of place to me.

And it's worth pointing out that even though Kimi has had a poor last few races in terms of performance, he's still been picking up the points, and is actually ahead of Massa. He has an incredible knack of picking up the points when he's not driving well, and I reckon this will see him end the year ahead of his Brazilian team-mate, but not ahead of Lewis.
#61241
For some reason the idea of Massa winning the WDC is a bit surreal. I'm just not convinced he's a good enough driver to join the illustrious names who've won the title. If he does win, it will be a result of Lewis screwing up and Raikkonen having a stale year. I know that whoever leads the points at the end deserves to win, and I felt for him as much as anyone after Hungary, but seeing his name up in the hall of fame would just look slightly out of place to me.

And it's worth pointing out that even though Kimi has had a poor last few races in terms of performance, he's still been picking up the points, and is actually ahead of Massa. He has an incredible knack of picking up the points when he's not driving well, and I reckon this will see him end the year ahead of his Brazilian team-mate, but not ahead of Lewis.


I disagree. Whilst he's been picking up points, he's only ahead of Massa because of the DNF. If he doesn't start winning races, Massa will beat him because he does not have the same issues setting up the Ferrari at the moment. Massa winning the WDC is a very real prospect at the moment, because he is making a few less mistakes than his team mate currently and generally performing better. I do think that Massa and Hamilton will go in to the final round with only a few points between them.

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