- 04 Aug 08, 14:58#59437
i wouldnt change his style not when groove tyres have only 7 races before they are retired, as Lewis' aggressive late turn in and trail braking will excel on slicks.
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bud wrote:i wouldnt change his style not when groove tyres have only 7 races before they are retired, as Lewis' aggressive late turn in and trail braking will excel on slicks.Yeah, I didn't consider that. Still, maybe there is some things he can try on the simulator that may make a slight difference.

IceManpjn wrote:Most of the positions he gained after the puncture were because drivers in front of him pealed off for their pit stops - he was lucky it happened just around his pit window, so the puncture didn't have the catastrophic effect (in terms of his race outcome) that it otherwise could have had.F1racer wrote:Any doubt now that wonder boy folds under pressure more often then not?This was a completely baseless accusation. I saw nothing during the entire race that suggested this, and in fact he did a remarkable job of regaining lost positions after his tire was replaced. He had to limp into pit lane with a worthless tire and still finished in fifth. It's awful difficult not to respect that.
How was any of that "folding under pressure"?
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
darwin_dali wrote:id call his tyre failure catastrophicIceManpjn wrote:Most of the positions he gained after the puncture were because drivers in front of him pealed off for their pit stops - he was lucky it happened just around his pit window, so the puncture didn't have the catastrophic effect (in terms of his race outcome) that it otherwise could have had.F1racer wrote:Any doubt now that wonder boy folds under pressure more often then not?This was a completely baseless accusation. I saw nothing during the entire race that suggested this, and in fact he did a remarkable job of regaining lost positions after his tire was replaced. He had to limp into pit lane with a worthless tire and still finished in fifth. It's awful difficult not to respect that.
How was any of that "folding under pressure"?
bud wrote:I know he had to extend his stint, but it was still in his window, i.e., he could fill her up to the finish, basically a regular pit stop. Imagine it had happened after his last pit stop and he would have had to come in for a third time just to change tires rather than a regular pit stop.darwin_dali wrote:id call his tyre failure catastrophicIceManpjn wrote:Most of the positions he gained after the puncture were because drivers in front of him pealed off for their pit stops - he was lucky it happened just around his pit window, so the puncture didn't have the catastrophic effect (in terms of his race outcome) that it otherwise could have had.F1racer wrote:Any doubt now that wonder boy folds under pressure more often then not?This was a completely baseless accusation. I saw nothing during the entire race that suggested this, and in fact he did a remarkable job of regaining lost positions after his tire was replaced. He had to limp into pit lane with a worthless tire and still finished in fifth. It's awful difficult not to respect that.
How was any of that "folding under pressure"?, and it wasnt around his pit window, he was running a long second stint and then he had to do 10 extra laps on the super softs.
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
McLaren Fan wrote:From F1 Live:Hey whats becomes of Hamiltons bad luck must turn to good luck for Heikki
Lewis Hamilton exposed himself to a greater risk of getting a puncture by flat-spotting his tyre during the Hungarian Grand Prix.
That was the analysis at the Hungaroring of Bridgestone's racing boss Hirohide Hamashima, who said immediately after the race that the McLaren driver's problem was probably the result of hitting debris rather than a failure.
"A flat spot makes you more vulnerable to a puncture," the Japanese told the Telegraph, "because it makes the tyre thinner in that area and therefore you have less protection against debris damage."
Hamilton had three tyre problems in his rookie title challenge last year, leading some to suggest his notably aggressive driving style may be contributing to the problem.
He told reporters in Budapest: "I was the one to get a puncture and it was a case of 'Oh no, not again'."
"I had it three times last year and that's what really lost me the championship," Hamilton added.
Source: GMM
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It seems them that it was a case of both bad luck that Hamilton hit a piece of debris and that it was partly down to his driving style. Hamilton will have to work on driving style somewhat. There is only so much McLaren can do to improve the situation in terms of car design and setup. Hamilton needs to tweak how he drives.
darwin_dali wrote:I know he had to extend his stint, but it was still in his window, i.e., he could fill her up to the finish, basically a regular pit stop. Imagine it had happened after his last pit stop and he would have had to come in for a third time just to change tires rather than a regular pit stop.If he picked up the puncture after his final scheduled stop it would have been a catastrophe, but what happened to him was still pretty bad. It was not 'basically a regular pitstop' because he lost time behind Massa because his car was substantially heavier and when he was on the prime tyre. The puncture meant he could not close the gap to Massa, take first position in his final stop and then have a much shorter distance to do on the option tyre. Yes, things could have been worse, but they could have been a lot better.


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