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[Denthúl]

It'll be incremental, can't imagine there'd be anything like a throttle control on the back of the steering wheel alongside the gear shifters, try holding that in position with one finger while changing gear and steering. Something else that I think, been quite a few times I've seen Massa or Kimi messing around with switches on the steering wheel and I imagine it's just part of those controls they've re-located to give easier access to to use more frequently.

I think those are more to do with engine maps, fuel mixtures and such, rather than a torque control.

[stonemonkey]

Isn't the mapping and mix how they control the torque?

[texasmr2]

It'll be incremental, can't imagine there'd be anything like a throttle control on the back of the steering wheel alongside the gear shifters, try holding that in position with one finger while changing gear and steering. Something else that I think, been quite a few times I've seen Massa or Kimi messing around with switches on the steering wheel and I imagine it's just part of those controls they've re-located to give easier access to to use more frequently.

I think those are more to do with engine maps, fuel mixtures and such, rather than a torque control.

I believe your right as it is not a controlled ecu function. I find it to be very intrigueing but who know's what the future hold's for it?

[Denthúl]

I don't believe so, but I'm no expert on that. I know that the engine mapping controls the performance of the engine, turning it up high increases performance but decreases life-span, whilst turning it down lowers performance but increases life-span. They tend to turn it down towards the end of a race unless they're still pushing to pass someone, especially if it's the first race of an engine's two-race period.

[texasmr2]

Isn't the mapping and mix how they control the torque?

In some way albeit how small you may be correct but kudos to McLaren for trying it out before it's banned.

[stonemonkey]

How'd you know it's gonna be banned? Other teams have put controls other than the gearshifts onto paddles behind the wheel.

[racechick]

How'd you know it's gonna be banned? Other teams have put controls other than the gearshifts onto paddles behind the wheel.

Because MLaren used it??

[bud]

Isn't the mapping and mix how they control the torque?

yes

[deMuRe]

It's a good innovation and well within the technical regulations. It would not surprise me to see Ferrari start their gurning as is usual and get the thing banned, as they have done with other legal devices in the past. The new steering wheel is not the only reason for McLaren's upturn in form anyway. A lot of other work has gone with the aerodynamics, suspension etc. (the latter improving traction). Now, where is the journalist and/or journalist who released this article? I've never wanted to punch one so much since Darren Heath.

Dude why do you always have to pick up the Violin?

You were just getting a compliment from a Ferrari supporter, enjoy it!

[darwin dali]

Ok fan boys - take a deep breath, relax and start over. I just wasted my time reading more than 2 pages most of them filled with bickering
So, PLEASE, do this kind of lovefest over pm, ok?
The vast majority of members will be grateful to ya

[darwin dali]

I think adjusting the torque or brake bias while driving should be banned. Have it set at the pits and the driver has to deal with the setting he chooses until he comes in again. Simple and it separates the boys from the men.

[f1usa]

want to buy a 1/8th scale car for 8K?

remember the oil secret weapon story? the thing is every new part is important as the next you cant pin it down to one development change that has brought the pace.

Does McLaren use racing simulators of the different F1 tracks. Simulator practice with the four paddle steering wheel would help HK in the learning curve.

[McLaren Fan]

want to buy a 1/8th scale car for 8K?

remember the oil secret weapon story? the thing is every new part is important as the next you cant pin it down to one development change that has brought the pace.

Does McLaren use racing simulators of the different F1 tracks. Simulator practice with the four paddle steering wheel would help HK in the learning curve.

McLaren have always been pretty big on racing simulators. The four-paddled steering wheel has been used since the start of the season, so I'm not sure it's the problem. A lot of is maybe down to his driving style. If it is, it can take half to two thirds of a season for some folk to adjust (although Kubica did it brilliantly over the summer, showing how talented he is). It's Kovalainen's part of the season now. I'm hoping to see him improve like he did last season at Renault.

[bud]

I think adjusting the torque or brake bias while driving should be banned. Have it set at the pits and the driver has to deal with the setting he chooses until he comes in again. Simple and it separates the boys from the men.

so that means no body would be allowed to turn "the wick" by adjusting engine maps, or adust fuel mix's which all the teams do now and this paddle by mclaren is no different to guys turning knobs on the wheels to adjust like i said mix's, maps and so on.

think its clear you Ferrari lambs are abit upset and looking for a scape goat. Yet if it were a Ferrari innovation i can guarantee you wouldnt be calling for it to be banned

[AKR]

I think adjusting the torque or brake bias while driving should be banned. Have it set at the pits and the driver has to deal with the setting he chooses until he comes in again. Simple and it separates the boys from the men.

so that means no body would be allowed to turn "the wick" by adjusting engine maps, or adust fuel mix's which all the teams do now and this paddle by mclaren is no different to guys turning knobs on the wheels to adjust like i said mix's, maps and so on.

think its clear you Ferrari lambs are abit upset and looking for a scape goat. Yet if it were a Ferrari innovation i can guarantee you wouldnt be calling for it to be banned

I think if Ferrari lose to McLaren again in Hungary, then this extra paddle steering wheel might be blamed and then they may push to have it banned if they cant get one of their own by the time the race after that comes along. But what excuse could Ferrari use to have this wheel banned? All I can think of is that they can push to claim that the steering wheel is a form of traction control, a manual traction control and the rules state that no form of traction control is allowed. Other than that if that doesn't work then they are going to have to get their close FIA allie friends to make a new rule to ban it, or if not hurry up and make their own special steering wheel. Let us see what happens after the Hungarian GP shall we. This could get very interesting.