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By darwin dali
#56406
What's Huh? ?


Your post is confusing and not making sense. Please explain.
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By stonemonkey
#56414
2 cars racing against each other don't go as fast as even the slowest one would go on free track which could allow someone else further behind to close up which would also be the case with the Piquet and Hamilton situation so the smart thing for Piquet to do was let Hamilton pass without too much fight and settle for a comfortable 2nd place rather than fall back towards Massa. Same thing for Kovi as well as playing the team game.
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By McLaren Fan
#56429
if you looked closely he was pressing the HK button

You must have brilliant eyesight. All I saw was a button full of red lights or dots.
By Mikep99
#56449
if you looked closely he was pressing the HK button

You must have brilliant eyesight. All I saw was a button full of red lights or dots.


I think it was this button :thumbup:

Hard to miss :hehe:

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By texasmr2
#56453
I thought team order's like that are illegal? I mean all we hear about is how MS gained so much from the team telling Eddie and Ruben's to move over and let Michael pass but now it's a justified move from the McLaren camp?
Talk about calling the kettle black! :rolleyes:

PS,
Hey I'm darn good at stirring the pot right? :yes:
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By McLaren Fan
#56455
I thought team order's like that are illegal? I mean all we hear about is how MS gained so much from the team telling Eddie and Ruben's to move over and let Michael pass but now it's a justified move from the McLaren camp?
Talk about calling the kettle black! :rolleyes:

PS,
Hey I'm darn good at stirring the pot right? :yes:

What happened today is not in any way, shape or form comparable to Ferrari and Schumacher's antics. Now, Ferrari fans, stop trying to reduce your feelings of guilt at your teams sly tactics. :yes:
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By darwin dali
#56457
I thought team order's like that are illegal? I mean all we hear about is how MS gained so much from the team telling Eddie and Ruben's to move over and let Michael pass but now it's a justified move from the McLaren camp?
Talk about calling the kettle black! :rolleyes:

PS,
Hey I'm darn good at stirring the pot right? :yes:

What happened today is not in any way, shape or form comparable to Ferrari and Schumacher's antics. Now, Ferrari fans, stop trying to reduce your feelings of guilt at your teams sly tactics. :yes:


Your entitled to your OPINION :wink:
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By texasmr2
#56459
I thought team order's like that are illegal? I mean all we hear about is how MS gained so much from the team telling Eddie and Ruben's to move over and let Michael pass but now it's a justified move from the McLaren camp?
Talk about calling the kettle black! :rolleyes:

PS,
Hey I'm darn good at stirring the pot right? :yes:

What happened today is not in any way, shape or form comparable to Ferrari and Schumacher's antics. Now, Ferrari fans, stop trying to reduce your feelings of guilt at your teams sly tactics. :yes:

The last time I checked a right is right and a wrong is wrong, seem's darn cut and dry to me? Maybe you, as you seem to be the spokesperson for the McLaren camp, should heed what you say! The meaning your putting across is that today's antic's are justified because it was McLaren but if it was Ferrari who performed those tactic's we would be bombarded with 'cheater's' implication's.

If I have misinterpreted what your trying to get across I apologize but I dont think I am. Also my last reply was NOT in defense of Ferrari it was made in the reference that it was ok because it was team order's yet when Ferrari implemented the same tactic's they are deemed as cheating. Can you understand where I am coming from?
By Mikep99
#56462
I thought team order's like that are illegal? I mean all we hear about is how MS gained so much from the team telling Eddie and Ruben's to move over and let Michael pass but now it's a justified move from the McLaren camp?
Talk about calling the kettle black! :rolleyes:

PS,
Hey I'm darn good at stirring the pot right? :yes:

What happened today is not in any way, shape or form comparable to Ferrari and Schumacher's antics. Now, Ferrari fans, stop trying to reduce your feelings of guilt at your teams sly tactics. :yes:


:bs:
By the way in my eyes there was nothing wrong with what happened today.
But there is something wrong in your highly BIAS view.

Wake up to yourself will you, it is truly sickening.
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By darwin dali
#56463
According to Dennis, Kovalainen was simply told that Hamilton was much quicker and he took the decision himself to allow his team-mate by. "The only thing we advise drivers is the respective pace of the other driver and they ultimately call it," the team principal said. "Lewis was nearly a second quicker than Heikki through the race and when he was told Lewis was quicker he just let him past.



That's code for: When we tell you your teammate is quicker than you, then get the hell out of the way, comprende? :yes:
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By McLaren Fan
#56464
The last time I checked a right is right and a wrong is wrong, seem's darn cut and dry to me? Maybe you, as you seem to be the spokesperson for the McLaren camp, should heed what you say! The meaning your putting across is that today's antic's are justified because it was McLaren but if it was Ferrari who performed those tactic's we would be bombarded with 'cheater's' implication's.

The situation is not all that clear cut. I see nothing wrong with what Kovalainen did. Hamilton was clearly faster than him, so the team's chances of winning the race would have been non-existent and Massa would have taken a decent haul of points away from the Grand Prix. The squabble would also have gone against the McLaren duo, for Raikkonen was starting to put on a bit of a charge, so both Hamilton and Kovalainen, holding each other up, could have fallen prey to him, which would have damaged both McLaren drivers and the team itself. As I said before, Kovalainen has had a fair crack of the whip this season and has not done the business, so it's madness for the team to let it's drivers fight over petty points when one of the drivers has no chance of the title and the other one does, and when one driver hasn't a prayer of winning the race and the other does. That's a totally different ball game from Ferrari and Schumacher's antics, whereby Schumacher was not allowed to be challenged by his teammate, regardless of whether or not he was faster than him or it was the first race of the season. What Ferrari did in Brazil last season was the right thing to do, but what went on between Schumacher and his helpers (Irvine, Barrichello, and Massa for a time) was disgusting.
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By McLaren Fan
#56465
According to Dennis, Kovalainen was simply told that Hamilton was much quicker and he took the decision himself to allow his team-mate by. "The only thing we advise drivers is the respective pace of the other driver and they ultimately call it," the team principal said. "Lewis was nearly a second quicker than Heikki through the race and when he was told Lewis was quicker he just let him past.



That's code for: When we tell you your teammate is quicker than you, then get the hell out of the way, comprende? :yes:

I know. The right call was made. Kovalainen's pace, or lack thereof, was pathetic.
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By bud
#56477
I thought team order's like that are illegal? I mean all we hear about is how MS gained so much from the team telling Eddie and Ruben's to move over and let Michael pass but now it's a justified move from the McLaren camp?
Talk about calling the kettle black! :rolleyes:

PS,
Hey I'm darn good at stirring the pot right? :yes:

Heikki wasnt in P1 and Lewis wasnt in P2.... not quite the same :wink:
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By Lem
#56479
not really but it was a cooincedence(sp) that the tv footage showed RD was communicating with heikki, then all of a sudden he let lewis pass.


Or maybe Heikki just used a bit of common sense?
By F1racer
#56500
What happened today is not in any way, shape or form comparable to Ferrari and Schumacher's antics. Now, Ferrari fans, stop trying to reduce your feelings of guilt at your teams sly tactics. :yes:


You're right, Ferrari never sent out a press release "Our drivers are free to race, there are no team orders at Ferrari" then blatently used team orders. Only Mclaren has stooped that low... :rolleyes:
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