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[al4x]

dude im not saying he is the master of the dry or Lewis is related to Jesus maternally.....i have issue with the following
by saying he wins from pole is implying he had it easy as in a FLAG TO FLAG VICTORY! people say this about winning from pole its to take away from a drivers efforts implying they didnt need to PASS to get the win!

Yes Lewis had pole but after the SC a new race began his Qualifying efforts to get pole meant nothing after the safety car especially by not pitting during the SC period.
in effect he came from 4th to 1at and took the win!!!
so your assumptions of today is inaccurate and all the intelligent grammer you can throw out there wont change the fact youre talking s***

with the drivers in there respective cars today he could have had any of them, that i think, you can say for sure,

could he beat everyone if they were in the sam car, it gets asked alot, but as always we will never know,

id just sum it up and say he was the best driver-car combo by far, best driver, possibly, but cant be sure!

[Denthúl]

At that point in that race he was not capable of fighting off Lewis as the rest of the race proved. So why screw upo lewis' race risk taking them both of and loosing McLaren points for nothing?? What he did in the second half of last year is completelt irrelevant

What makes it irrelevant? You don't forget how to drive overnight. Or is everything Lewis did last season also irrelevant?

He didn't have to risk taking them both out and, in fact, it was very close to contact when he did move aside because Lewis wasn't ready for it. He's thinking too much about the team-game and not enough about himself at the moment. Yes, you have to support your team-mate, but if you don't fight hard enough, you might end up in a place you don't want to be. Look at Eddie Irvine, he pretty much accepted that he was never going to challenge Michael Schumacher and he ended up with Jaguar and on the decline. I don't want to see Heikki go the same way because, like Irvine, he has far more talent than that.

dude im not saying he is the master of the dry or Lewis is related to Jesus maternally.....i have issue with the following
by saying he wins from pole is implying he had it easy as in a FLAG TO FLAG VICTORY! people say this about winning from pole its to take away from a drivers efforts implying they didnt need to PASS to get the win!

Yes Lewis had pole but after the SC a new race began his Qualifying efforts to get pole meant nothing after the safety car especially by not pitting during the SC period.
in effect he came from 4th to 1at and took the win!!!
so your assumptions of today is inaccurate and all the intelligent grammer you can throw out there wont change the fact youre talking s***

Then you seem to be missing the point and just going out looking to start an argument with someone who you think is guilt of Lewis-bashing but, in actual fact, is not. Nowhere did I say that it was easy at any of those races, nor did I say they were all lights-to-flag. Those are your words, mate.

What I am saying is that he hasn't had to fight from way back in the field to take his results and, when he has been back there, he has over-driven and generally struggled with his race. Which, to me, does not warrant being branded master of the dry. Drives like Raikkonen's in Suzuka three years ago are the kind of drives that warrant that, though Kimi is by no means a master of the dry. It's easier to dominate the race from the front than the back. I'm not saying that in itself is easy, but not as difficult as the latter. And that's all, none of all the things you seem to be thinking I'm saying, which is somewhat puzzling given the fact that none of those are actually my words.

[scotty]

Yes, well done to Hamilton for having a much better car and being able to pass two inept drivers in Massa and Piquet!

[bud]

so you dont consider overtaking cars from 4th to take the win very difficult? You obviously have no idea when it comes to racing then

im not looking for an argument i just say it as it comes so keep it(talking s***) coming and there will be an argument

[al4x]

i really dont like lh, but fairs fair, he diserved the win more than anyone else, and got it, you cant really ask for more

quali 1st, huge lead to the safty car, if he had the decision he would have pitted, race over there

[scotty]

Wind 'em up, watch 'em go....

Of course Hamilton deserved to win today, who else did?

And why are people on here so over defensive?!

[Denthúl]

so you dont consider overtaking cars from 4th to take the win very difficult? You obviously have no idea when it comes to racing then

im not looking for an argument i just say it as it comes so keep it(talking s***) coming and there will be an argument

Again, I will point out, I'm not saying it isn't very difficult. But it's not exactly what I consider to be masterful, either, as many non-masterful drivers have done the same. I'm sorry, but it just isn't that way. Otherwise, we'd have many more 'masters' ( Ralf Schumacher after his performances in 2001, for example) than there actually, realistically, are. I have no doubt that Lewis has the talent to do it, and that he will do it, but as of yet he hasn't done it. I'm taking nothing away from his talent, his abilities and his drive today, so where you are getting that from is a little puzzling.

Great driver and master are two different things, and Lewis is still on the journey to becoming a master at the moment. Maybe he'll get there by the end of the season, but that depends on whether or not the mistakes are well and truly ironed out. After the past two races, I would think so, but there's always the chance of it all coming unstuck in the final two races, which I would hate to see, personally.

[Kiwi_Chris]

Lewis was in a class of his own at hockenhiem, his engineers got the car working right and he drove a great race. If he has more weekends like that and kept his head down off track he could get himself into the records.
I dont think anyone can really doubt his natural talent he just needs to get his s*** together off track

[f1ea]

Scheisse!!

Not only it was a brilliant race from Lewis, but also... Mclaren better than Ferrari at about half a sec per lap without driving errors, quirky strategies... that was a beating. Let's see what gets said about Dennis pushing the "button" on Heikki to let Lewis by...

But anyway as soon as massa pitted right after Lewis... oh boy I thought massa had at least 4 laps more fuel.

Nick was pretty decent again, and Piquet almost won! Great drive from him, considering Alonso had all sort of handling problems. And Vettel was great too the 2nd hald of the season is shaping to thrill the hell out of F1.

[Rob-F1]

Lewis was superb today, just like he was at Silverstone. But a 4 point lead ain't that much with 8 rounds left in the championship. Theres still plenty of racing left to be done so I don't think any Lewis fan, anywhere in the world should get ahead of themselves and believe Lewis will be world champion yet, I mean, look at last year.

[texasmr2]

How about a "SPOILER" included with a race's result's for those who are on a time delay? I'm pushing for a new 'Race" forum to discuss individual race's including practice and qualifying banter, what say yall?

[racechick]

At that point in that race he was not capable of fighting off Lewis as the rest of the race proved. So why screw upo lewis' race risk taking them both of and loosing McLaren points for nothing?? What he did in the second half of last year is completelt irrelevant

What makes it irrelevant? You don't forget how to drive overnight. Or is everything Lewis did last season also irrelevant?

No. you dont forget how to drive overnight. I have never suggested Heikki has forgoten how to drive, but even if Heikki won every race last year at that point in todays race he was not fast enough to take on Lewis, so last year is irrelevant. And yes at that point in the race everything lewis did last year was irrelevant. Lewis was 2 seconds faster. How could, and what would the point be for heikki to do battle?? If Heikki could have done battle why didnt he follow through and take Massa and Piquet?? Im not disrespecting Heikki, at times he can be as quick, but he wasnt at that crucial time.

[Denthúl]

At that point in that race he was not capable of fighting off Lewis as the rest of the race proved. So why screw upo lewis' race risk taking them both of and loosing McLaren points for nothing?? What he did in the second half of last year is completelt irrelevant

What makes it irrelevant? You don't forget how to drive overnight. Or is everything Lewis did last season also irrelevant?

No. you dont forget how to drive overnight. I have never suggested Heikki has forgoten how to drive, but even if Heikki won every race last year at that point in todays race he was not fast enough to take on Lewis, so last year is irrelevant. And yes at that point in the race everything lewis did last year was irrelevant. Lewis was 2 seconds faster. How could, and what would the point be for heikki to do battle?? If Heikki could have done battle why didnt he follow through and take Massa and Piquet?? Im not disrespecting Heikki, at times he can be as quick, but he wasnt at that crucial time.

He still needs to show what he is capable of in order to keep his drive. I was highlighting that he had shown what he could do last year and needs to not fall behind that in the latter stages of this season or his drive could come under threat from some of the other drivers. He's not in Piquet or Bourdais' situation, but if he keeps letting people past so easily then it won't look too good. Or he may end up getting stuck with Barrichello's roll at Ferrari, which I would not be pleased to see.

[racechick]

At that point in that race he was not capable of fighting off Lewis as the rest of the race proved. So why screw upo lewis' race risk taking them both of and loosing McLaren points for nothing?? What he did in the second half of last year is completelt irrelevant

What makes it irrelevant? You don't forget how to drive overnight. Or is everything Lewis did last season also irrelevant?

No. you dont forget how to drive overnight. I have never suggested Heikki has forgoten how to drive, but even if Heikki won every race last year at that point in todays race he was not fast enough to take on Lewis, so last year is irrelevant. And yes at that point in the race everything lewis did last year was irrelevant. Lewis was 2 seconds faster. How could, and what would the point be for heikki to do battle?? If Heikki could have done battle why didnt he follow through and take Massa and Piquet?? Im not disrespecting Heikki, at times he can be as quick, but he wasnt at that crucial time.

He still needs to show what he is capable of in order to keep his drive. I was highlighting that he had shown what he could do last year and needs to not fall behind that in the latter stages of this season or his drive could come under threat from some of the other drivers. He's not in Piquet or Bourdais' situation, but if he keeps letting people past so easily then it won't look too good. Or he may end up getting stuck with Barrichello's roll at Ferrari, which I would not be pleased to see.

Agreed. But you choose to do it when you are on the pace of your teammate as he was in the first few laps of Silverstone, not when you are two seconds off the pace.

[Hanwombat]

I would of loved it even more today, Lewis hurray, but yet my head still hurts!